View of Islam is'naive'

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I am a regular reader and a subscriber to your wonderful newspaper since I came to Augusta.

On Aug. 9, I came across a political cartoon on Page 6A titled “Current Events Quiz.” As a Muslim, I find this cartoon disingenuous, insincere and simply inaccurate.

It is deceivingly trying to convey the overarching message that Islam is the driver of these various terrorist groups, which is not true and indeed naïve. The main drivers to these groups are primarily politics, power and interests. In general, we should be very careful to paint a whole religion (and in turn all its followers) with one big, ill-informed brush.

It is a historical fact that armies from countries that call themselves Christian have killed more human beings than any other religion, but I would not doubt that Christianity is a religion of peace. The United Nations says that Israel has and continues to kill many innocent civilians, but I also would not doubt that Judaism is a religion of peace. We need to persistently differentiate between the religion and the behavior of a few of its followers – albeit the latter might be, intentionally or not, more visible in our daily media.

Thank you very much for publishing this letter, and for your balanced and objective approach to issues of importance to our society.

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ymnbde
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ymnbde 08/13/14 - 05:49 am
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Islam is not a religion of peace today... has it ever been?

"countries that call themselves Christian" vs armies that actually are Muslim?
Did Hitler murder in the name of Christianity? Stalin?
no, your letter murders truth
does not Israel have to protect its own children from Muslim murderers?
Muslims kill, and the cartoon was far more truthful than this letter
letter writer, the actions of your religion are known far too well
for anyone to believe such obtuse drivel

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RedQuinoa 08/13/14 - 07:17 am
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Islamic State - the new Caliphate

The "Islamic State" (known as ISIS until recently) has declared itself a nation-state and a latter-day revival of the Caliphate. Its leaders have vowed to one day fly the IS black flag over the White House "in the name of Allah". Their heart's desire that all either convert to Islam or die the deserved death of infidels.

There's nothing "disingenuous, insincere, or simply inaccurate" about the ideology that clearly motivates such a group of savages. They even urge their own children to kill, murder, and hate - for the sake of Islam.

Why have no influential adherents to this "religion of peace" come out strongly and publicly to condemn the vile actions taking place in Iraq and Syria? Could it be that they tacitly condone such actions?

Do not be deceived by Islamic apologists.

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gaflyboy 08/13/14 - 08:49 am
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Consistent, lazy or ...

something else?

This letter matches word for word the comments the writer put under the cartoon (http://chronicle.augusta.com/opinion/cartoons/2014-08-08/rick-mckee-edit...). Gee! It’s almost like it's scripted.

The cartoon was clearly about specific groups, and not "the overarching message" of Islam. It is ingenuous, sincere and simply accurate. To argue otherwise is naive and dangerous.

The most brutal murders and genocide today are done in the name of Islam. And too many peaceful Muslims are not as concerned about those actions as they are offended by cartoons. I sincerely wish that I could say “I would not doubt that Islam is a religion of peace”. I really do.

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deestafford 08/13/14 - 08:02 am
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I'm going to display my ignorance....

I'm going to display my ignorance when I admit that I don't understand how an apparently well educated, intelligent individual such as Dr. Al-Hendly cannot see the brutality committed in today's world and in history in the name of Islam.

Just because a Christian country like America went to war against tyranny in wars throughout our history, at no time did we go in the name of Christianity.

Israel is not fighting Hamas and the PLO in the name of Judaism. It is fighting for it's survival as a nation state.

Islam has been a "religion'' of war ever since it was founded. It's goal was to conquer the world and subject it to Islam. Taking back the Holy Land from the Muslims was what the Crusades were all about.

Without the Crusades Islam would have conquered what is now Western Europe. The Muslims are trying to do the same thing today but with different tactics--mainly birthrates.

What other religion is killing thousands of women and children because they are Christians?

What other religion is burying hundreds of women and children alive today?

What other religion today is raping young girls and women before selling them into slavery for as little as $10?

What other religion today is crucifying children in the name of religion?

What other religion today is cutting the heads off of children and then putting them on poles in the public parks?

What other religion today is destroying religious sites of Christianity?

What other religion's holy book tells its followers to make people to convert, pay a tax, or be put to death?

What other religion today has killed and continues to kill hundreds of thousands of people in the name of Allah?

What other religion today has millions of people who say the "extremists" don't represent the religion yet they don't take to the streets of the countries in which they live by the thousands in protest of the actions of the "extremists"?

No, Doctor, just like Obama, the Muslim sympathizer, you try to rationalize that these people are killing in the name of something other than Islam. Islam is the only commonality among all these people worldwide.

Keep in mind there are approximately 1 billion Muslims in the world. Estimates vary from 10% to over 20% are radicals and even a greater percentage are sympathizers. That equates to 100 million to 200 million who want to destroy Western Civilization.

deestafford
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deestafford 08/13/14 - 08:05 am
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The three men who killed the most...

The three men who killed the most people in history are Stalin, Mao, and Hitler. None of them did it in the name of religion.

In today's world the only killing and attempts at genocide are being done in the name of religion is being done by Muslims.

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RMSHEFF 08/13/14 - 08:12 am
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The writers view of Islam is naive

Not all muslims are terrorist but all terrorist are muslims. If you are looking for terrorist you would not search among Christians! Why do these terrorist murder in the name of allah? Why do they insist that a non muslim convert or dye? Name a muslim country where it is safe to be a Christianity?

The statement that armies of Christians have killed more people that any other religion is a meaningless statement even if it were true. To kill in self defense is not the same as murder.

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Bizkit 08/13/14 - 08:14 am
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His is conflating

His is conflating facts-christian nations and their government and armies-aren't a christian army. Muslims who seek jihad and terrorism are an Islamic army-just like ISIS. Clever dodge but a countries religion has nothing to do with its govt and army-unlike Islam which is both a religion and govt promoting theocracy. Now there are secular govt like Syria that are mostly muslim, but it's govt and army isn't a muslim army but a secular army that is killing muslims. The US is a secular nation, with many christians and every other religion, but it doesn't have nor has ever had a christian army. Iran is a good example of a muslim theocratic state with a parliamentary govt such they have a president and a Supreme Leader who is their religious leader and supreme. So trying to take Islam out of terrorism is like taking Islam out of govt-it isn't what the religion is about and I doubt Iran would stop their present theocratic govt. So I wonder why this dude is intentionally misleading people?

Bizkit
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Bizkit 08/13/14 - 08:23 am
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Progressives call christians

Progressives call christians terrorist-ie the tea party, and refuse to call muslims terrorist-they are extremist, militants, etc. These jihadist are calling on their faith, dying and being martyred because of their faith, and claiming their faith as support for their actions. Sure they maybe mislead and an extremist faction, like the Army of God in christianity, but still their faith motivates their actions. It isn't happening in a vacuum. The Army of God doesn't typify most Christians, but that doesn't negate these fundamentalist nut cases are citing their religion as grounds for their activity. There isn't many of these nut cases, but the radical element of Islam, while maybe a small percent-a small percent of over a billion muslims is still close to a million radicals motivated by their perception of their religion.

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faithson 08/13/14 - 09:10 am
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ohhhhh wait a second here.......

130 Marines just went back into Iraq yesterday. NOT a word of it on the AC website. Ahhhhhh, an oversight ?????

sorry to change the subject, just sayin'

Bizkit
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Bizkit 08/13/14 - 10:20 am
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The AC reported the

The AC reported the airstrikes, but these are not combatant people but assessors. The Pentagon insists that the troops are 'assessors' and this is not a 'combat books on the ground kind of operation'
A Defense Department official said mission could last less than a week
Democrats worry that military action in Iraq will result in mission creep
The U.S. already has 250 military advisers, 455 security forces and 100 other military personnel in Iraq.
So what there are 130 marines too-none of these folks have done anything to stop ISIS. The airstrikes are good though.

ymnbde
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ymnbde 08/13/14 - 10:46 am
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ahhh, faithson, why did they do that?

surely they're not on vacation...
must be something else
could it have something to do with protecting peaceful people from the "religion of peace"?

Lou Stewall
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Lou Stewall 08/13/14 - 11:08 pm
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Erasing History

It is known that Muslims have fielded mercenary armies for their drones (victims of polygamy) to take women for 1300 years. Muslims have a special way of waging war. Muslims kill every member of villages except the children, whom they take for harems and their army. Then they loot and burn the villages. No memory or vestige remains.

All of North & East Africa was conquered this way. So, doctor, you can claim Christians have killed more than Muslims, but in reality, Christians let those they conquered live to tell. This has been documented by Henry M. Stanley and many others.

Muslims burned the Library of Alexandria to erase most of their bloody history. This is the tragedy of African history... Muslims totally erased their civilization, village by village, for tusks of ivory and girls to serve their lust.

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historylover 08/13/14 - 11:32 am
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deestafford

I get so sick of you an others calling our country - yes it's "ours" too - a Christian nation. Get over the lies please!

As usual, you people show no respect for an educated, obviously religious, peace loving man who simply decided to put his thoughts in a letter to the editor.

So he may be wrong in your opinion. The hate is sickening.

Bizkit
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Bizkit 08/13/14 - 12:54 pm
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This wikipedia article

This wikipedia article highlights Islam and war. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_and_war
Plenty of violence, but Christianity isn't immune either and there were the Holy Wars. But the letter writer is correct don't conflate a religion with people's interpretations and said actions-which often conflict with the tenets of the religion. Like violence in Christianity should be an oxymoron but it isn't. I also think it was Saladin who just made up a lot of jihad doctrine to unify forces for war-I think that's true as I recollect.

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myfather15 08/13/14 - 01:10 pm
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There are tens of millions of radical Islamic terrorists!!

In there OWN words, they want the entire world to be an Islamic state and everyone to worship Allah, or die!!

Where are all these millions of murdering, rampaging Christians this doctor speaks of? Where is the mainstream terrorist Christians at? Where are they hiding? Who are the Christians, calling for the entire world to be forced to pledge faith in their God? As a matter of fact, most of the time in history, when Christians fought, it was against other denominations of Christians, such as in Ireland between Catholic and protestants. Can someone please tell me when Christians waged war on another religion? Not a Country, but Christians; and please do not go there with Hitler, as he was NOT a Christian!!

Christians go on volunteer missions, to provide relief to the world, spreading their faith to others through love and charity!! Spreading the good news of Jesus Christ through kindness; and HOPING people, with their FREE WILL, will convert to Christianity!! But no FORCE is desired or expected; as it must be free will to be pure!!

Who helps the world during natural disasters, more than Christians? NOBODY!! Even in war, after we've HAD to bomb them, WE rebuild their infrastructure; spending billions of dollars of taxpayers money to help the people of these countries!! Do we HAVE to? No, we could bomb them and say "to heck with them, let the rebuild on their own". Even during this Israeli-Hamas struggle, Israel is sending financial support and food to the Palestinian people!! All while Hamas is trying to intercept the aid and use it for their armies!!

No, I've never said that ALL of Islam are radical terrorists. Anyone with common sense knows that is NOT true!! But, a much larger percentage of Islam IS radical terrorists, than any other religion!! Why? And why do so many people refuse to acknowledge even the existence of this massive radical element?

In my opinion, because the goal is complete confusion!! Confuse the people to the point they don't know if they're coming or going; and you've basically won the fight!! People who are confused, will NOT stand up!!

JB68
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JB68 08/13/14 - 01:21 pm
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@Historylover

Where's the hate!

All I have read is where people are pointing out where they disagree. Geez!

ymnbde
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ymnbde 08/13/14 - 01:47 pm
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historylover, the derision is sickening

what this man wrote is either true, or it isn't
and if you respect reality, you know it isn't true
was it ok to kidnap the little Nigerian girls?
according to your line of thinking, it was
that is sickening

itsanotherday1
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itsanotherday1 08/13/14 - 02:16 pm
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JB-hate

That is the truncheon used by the left when you disagree. They are RIGHTEOUS you know, so if you don't see things their way, you HATE.

RMSHEFF, bet you a nickel that if someone doesn't say it, they are thinking it: On your "all terrorists are muslim" comment; someone is sure to drag up one or two abortion clinic bombers or anti-government types in an attempt to thwart the argument.

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Fiat_Lux 08/13/14 - 02:40 pm
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@historylover

I am offended that you can't tell the difference between disagreement--even vehement disagreement, disagreement to the point of putting forth strong rebuttal, passionate rebuttal--and disrespect.

I have read these comments and I don't find that anyone has shown this LTE writer any disrespect (as of about 1:45 anyway). They have simply, repeatedly, strongly and soberly pointed out to him that he is not only wrong, but that he is naive if he genuinely is unaware of what is happening around the world today and about why it is happening. If he is downplaying what is happening as a rationalization--which I can understand coming from a faithful Muslim-- then that's something a bit more pernicious.

I couldn't agree with the comments above more. That said, there are more Muslims here in Augusta than I can count on all my digits whom I know, love and respect. They are some of the finest people I've ever met, and I know there is a certain degree of mutual respect and often genuine affection. However, not a one of them will ever consider me their equal as a human being as long as I am a Christian and not a Muslim.

And for the life of me, I do not understand why not one of them has ever publicly condemned the Islamist terrorists and their brutal atrocities.

Young Fred
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Young Fred 08/13/14 - 02:40 pm
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historylover

I fear you've fallen into the very same trap that most of those with your political leanings fall into. You've been conditioned to believe contrary views equate hate.

I bear no animosity, after all, it's a condition. The conditioners can't have their acolytes fishing beyond the shallows now can they?

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burninater 08/13/14 - 02:59 pm
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Myfather

No, myfather. There ARE NOT "tens of millions of Islamic terrorists."

"The number of jihadists has surged similarly. Because it is difficult to get a precise count of jihadist group membership, the report provides ranges. It estimates the total number grew to between 45,510 and 105,510 in 2013, from between 12,945 and 47,810 in 2010"

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/06/number-of-jihadist-groups-increases-by...

The upper estimate, 105,510, is 0.007 percent of the global Muslim population. That is 7 of every ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND Muslims.

People seek to smear an entire religion for the actions of 0.007% of its population? How is that an expression of rational thought?

Young Fred
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Young Fred 08/13/14 - 03:46 pm
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Burn

Enough with your selective reasoning: "People seek to smear an entire religion for the actions of 0.007% of its population? How is that an expression of rational thought?"

A quote from myfather: "No, I've never said that ALL of Islam are radical terrorists. Anyone with common sense knows that is NOT true!! But, a much larger percentage of Islam IS radical terrorists, than any other religion!! Why? "

Now Burn, try to actually answer the question!

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burninater 08/13/14 - 04:19 pm
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I did not intend to cast

I did not intend to cast myfather as calling all Muslims terrorists, I was only refuting his terrorist numbers. My statement about the irrationality of equating Islam with terrorism is addressed towards those who so do. Myfather is not one of those people. Others on this forum have explicitly stated that they equate the two.

As to the question, it is in large part a function of how we define "terrorist." The most dangerous, murderous countries on the globe are in Central America, where armed militants rule by force of arms and murder rates lead those rates globally. If those militants were in the Middle East and Muslim, we would call them "terrorists." As they are in the Americas, and Christian, we call them "militants," or "gangs."

It isn't clear that more radical terrorists are Muslim than any other religion, as we very selectively apply that label to very specific populations.

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RMSHEFF 08/13/14 - 04:20 pm
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BURN

I would say that 105,000 people that are not only willing but desire to kill as many people as they can by any means they have is a big, big problem especially if they possess weapons of mass destruction. Your 0.007 number is an attempt to make it sound almost benign. Remember 911 when a handful murdered 3000+. Shame on you !

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carcraft 08/13/14 - 04:27 pm
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Some of the laws of Islam as

Some of the laws of Islam as expressed in Sheria are INSANE! Women have been raped and because there are not FOUR, YES 4 MALE witnesses the prosecution does not go forward. Then to make matters worse because the rape victim has confessed to having sex out side of marriage the raped women is guilty of a crime, sex out side of marriage. One 14 year old girl received. 70 lashes and died from the beating. A Norwegian women in Dubai was sentanced to 16 months in jail after being raped. Of course radical Islam insists Sheria law be established.

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burninater 08/13/14 - 04:49 pm
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RMSHEFF, I am not minimizing

RMSHEFF, I am not minimizing terrorism. "Shame on you" for claiming I am.

I am demonstrating that based on the actual participation rate, the equivalence of Islam and terrorism is irrational thinking.

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Young Fred 08/13/14 - 05:16 pm
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Burn

You raise a good point in that the news reported is the news commented on (ie the Central American terrorist).

One has to wonder what the "news" would look like if the current white house occupant was a republican.

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burninater 08/13/14 - 05:22 pm
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"One has to wonder what the

"One has to wonder what the "news" would look like if the current white house occupant was a republican."
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Not really. There were no Central American terrorists in the news during the 2001-2008 Republican administration either.

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cush1944 08/13/14 - 07:52 pm
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"Remember 911 when a handful

"Remember 911 when a handful murdered 3000+. Shame on you !"
When the Muslim terrorist strike here next it will be much worse than 9/11.
It seems some of the folks posting here do not remember the thousands of Muslims celebrating in the streets in most Muslims cities after 9/11. Nowhere did you see ANY Muslims condemning the attack. I have no respected for most the anti-Americans that post here.

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historylover 08/13/14 - 08:18 pm
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ymnbde

"was it ok to kidnap the little Nigerian girls?
according to your line of thinking, it was
that is sickening"

How, pray tell did you get that out of my post?

Fiat Lux, very well put. Your post gave me reason to ponder some. Thank you.

As for the "hate" I spoke of, it may not be as apparent to some of you what I am saying, but I do not take back the comment. It seems that anyone who does not toe the party line on here, gets called a liar, un-American, idiot, etc. I call that hate.

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