Sovereignty violated

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You can fool most of the people most of the time, and some of the people all the time. The Obama administration, by using children to gain our compassion, is destroying our culture and sovereignty. It is in direct violation of the oath taken by elected officials. Allowing our border to be invaded is a violation of Article IV, Section 4:

“The United States shall guarantee to every State in the Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion ...”

It is the furtherance of the North American Union, a.k.a. the Security and Prosperity Partnership. If you are not aware of this, it is because we are deliberately kept ignorant. Mexico, Canada and the United States have agreed to become one. This agreement was signed March 23, 2005, in Waco, Texas, by Mexican President Vicente Fox, President George W. Bush and Canadian Prime Minister Paul Martin. It is similar to the European Union, where 27 nations came together under one denomination, the euro.

The price of freedom remains eternal vigilance.

Andy Windham

Wagener, S.C.

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deestafford
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deestafford 08/10/14 - 07:29 am
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The SPP is something that is criticized by both...

The SPP is something that is criticized by both the left and the right. From what little I read it seems some are concerned about the domination by the US and some are concerned about the laxed movement of labor and other things across borders.

From my limited reading I would not be as reluctant to enter some agreements with Canada as I would with Mexico since their values and culture are more aligned with ours.

Mexico, being a Third or Second World country, presents hazards that we do not face with Canada. We have to be much more weary of any dealings with them than with Canada.

The other day I was reading about the Mexican-American War and the results of the treaty ending the war. We had conquered all of Mexico and as part of the agreement we gave them everything south of what is now the US-Mexico border.

The Mexican-American being interviewed said the people of Mexico would be much better off today if the US had kept all of Mexico. He pointed out how much better the living conditions are for the people who live in now what is the US. After Mexico gained its independence from Spain the standard of living was not improved and the government really didn't change much from the quasi feudal system it was under.

There is no fantasy of a great Mexican life style as the Hispanic revisionists want us to believe. The life of the average Mexican has been miserable ever since the Spanish colonized the region.

historylover
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historylover 08/10/14 - 09:00 am
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Dee

Do you think that perhaps the reasons you mentioned above are the cause of the great influx of Mexicans into the USA over the past 30 years? I mean, it certainly explains it to me.

You do realize that the Spanish colonized the region in the 1500's, right? From you wrote above, do you think that the New World should have never been colonized? If so, then a lot of history would be different, of course including our own country.

Mexico is no longer labeled a third or second world country as these names have become somewhat obsolete. The preferred name is now Developing Country as the old models of three worlds have become obsolete.

From http://www.nationsonline.org/oneworld/third_world_countries.htm

"After World War II the world split into two large geopolitical blocs and spheres of influence with contrary views on government and the politically correct society:
1 - The bloc of democratic-industrial countries within the American influence sphere, the "First World".
2 - The Eastern bloc of the communist-socialist states, the "Second World".
3 - The remaining three-quarters of the world's population, states not aligned with either bloc were regarded as the "Third World."

No argument, just thought more clarification was needed.

dichotomy
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dichotomy 08/10/14 - 09:37 am
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Regardless of the history,

Regardless of the history, the point is that we cannot absorb all of these illegal aliens AND put them on the welfare dole. In addition, we cannot tolerate the criminals pouring across our borders and committing heinous crimes against our citizens.

Of course, I guess there is a possibility that we have become so stupid that we no longer deserve to have the great country that our ancestors worked so hard to create. Who would have thought it could be so damaged by one man and a bunch of blind followers.

deestafford
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deestafford 08/10/14 - 11:04 am
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historylover, you raise some good points...

historylover, you raise some good points and it's a fascinating area of history.

You're right about the Spanish colonizing in the 1500's and having control of Mexico until the early 1800's. I totally agree with the New World being colonized. Because of the Spanish royalty's search for riches by backing Columbus's search for a new route to India because of the Muslims cutting off the overland route a whole new world was open for exploration.

I think what is interesting is that the reasons for the Spanish in Central and South America being a search for riches in gold and silver is in contrast with why the English came to the New World. Maybe that could be the genesis of the differences in culture between the two areas in the Western Hemisphere.

I guess it boils down to different motives because Spain was a highly developed country at the same time as England.

An interesting question would be how would the area now known as Mexico be different if the English had landed there instead of the Spanish and the Spanish were in South America with no influence in what is now Mexico.

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jomojo 08/10/14 - 01:51 pm
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Verify?

I've checked the State Department website archives and Canadian websites but I can't find the text of the Security and Prosperity Partnership for North America (SPP). I would love to read it if anyone has it.

However, Mr. Windham's central claim that the SPP was intended to create one single nation or even a Euro-style currency union is patently untrue because it was not a treaty. The descriptions I've read indicate it was primarily a number of working groups consisting of various industry representatives including the largest corporations in the US, Mexico and Canada. Thus it sounds more like a business initiative given a high-profile boost by heads of state. Given the high profile of its endorsement, it's hard to argue that we were kept in the dark.

The price of freedom remains eternal vigilance - especially for the truth.

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cush1944 08/10/14 - 02:27 pm
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"Do you think that perhaps

"Do you think that perhaps the reasons you mentioned above are the cause of the great influx of Mexicans into the USA over the past 30 years? I mean, it certainly explains it to me."
historylover, you might love history but you seem to know little of it.

historylover
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historylover 08/10/14 - 04:50 pm
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cush1944

What part of history do I not "know" in your estimation? I only posted facts and started a conversation with deestafford which she continued with dignity.

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jimmymac 08/10/14 - 10:45 pm
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My opinion of Bush can't get much worse so this would not surprise me one bit. We've been sold out by all politicians for the last 40 years when it comes to border issues.

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