Cease US aid to Israel

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Charles Krauthammer’s column “Moral clarity in Gaza” (July 19) praises Israel’s ongoing massacre of Palestinians in Gaza. Israel’s intent is neither to end rocket fire, which was minimal throughout long periods of truce, nor to arrest criminals responsible for killing three settlers, as evidenced by its arrests of hundreds of Palestinians after the kidnapping.

Israel’s intent is to crush Palestinians who uphold the right of refugees to return to their homes from which Jewish militias expelled them in 1947 and 1948. It seeks to crush Palestinians who object to the siege that prevents Gazan farmers, fisherman and industrialists from the opportunity to export their products. Its intent is to crush Palestinians who object to armed Jewish colonists in the West Bank, defended by the Israeli army and subsidized by the Israeli Ministry of Housing. Its intent is to crush Palestinians within Israel who suffer under various forms of discrimination.

The United States is scheduled to give Israel $30 billion in military aid from 2009 to 2018. There are other forms of financial aid, including loan guarantees and loan forgiveness. The $1.5 billion in military aid annually to the repressive governments in Egypt is a result of our involvement in the 1979 Camp David Accords between Egypt and Israel.

The only clear morality here is that we as a nation should end aid to all countries in the region.

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Pond Life
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Pond Life 07/22/14 - 03:56 am
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Mr. Fadel. If I shot at your
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Mr. Fadel. If I shot at your house daily, would you or would you not do something about it? Why do you condemn Israel for doing what you would most likely do yourself?

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carcraft 07/22/14 - 04:21 am
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One rocket is to many! Like

One rocket is to many! Like Israel is supposed to sit there and let them fire rockets at them? Israel is the only nation to give those folks land so they shoot rockets at. Israel out of gratitude?

Pond Life
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Pond Life 07/22/14 - 04:52 am
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If Hamas lays down their
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If Hamas lays down their weapons, there would be no war. If Israel lays down their weapons, there would be no Israel.

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ymnbde 07/22/14 - 04:58 am
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so goes Israel, so goes the world

and along with it, civility in the world
as Golda Meir said, and it is still true-
"Peace will come when the Arabs will
love their children more than they hate us"
Not since the 1930's has the difference between good and evil
been so obvious
and Israel is good... and the Nazis yet live
the United States should give even more support to Israel

hoptoad
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hoptoad 07/22/14 - 06:41 am
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There is no Palestinian

There is no Palestinian State, NEVER has been. Israel gave them Gaza in hopes this would satisfy the Palestinians needs. Israel NEVER belonged to these terrorists. But these terrorists seem to think it's alright to invade, take over and claim Israel as their own.

It must be a gift that Mr. Fadel has that he can read Mr. Netanyahu's mind. Maybe a look at the satellite images would reveal who is actually the aggressor.

Does Mr. Fadel think Americans have not heard the middle east countries claim to destroy Israel? Does he also think we don't know that these Arab terrorists place their civilians in harm's way to produce sympathy for their cause?

You cry for the Palestinians who are discriminated against in Israel, what proof have you got that is going on? And speaking of discrimination, are you going to speak out against the middle east nations who discriminate against Christians, Jews and women? Are you going to speak out about the inhumane treatment of women?

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deestafford 07/22/14 - 07:33 am
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Where to start to rebut.

Where to start to rebut? Let's start at the beginning.

The land that is now Israel was given to the Jews thousands of years ago.

In reality there is no Palestinian people. It was a name given by Herod to the land to mock the Jews.

Prior to 1947 if the Arabs had wanted the "Palestinians" to have a country why did they not give them the land and call it Palestine rather than it being known as Jordan?

Arafat was not a "Palestinian". He was Egyptian. By the way, he got everything he asked for at the Camp David Accords and he still refused to abide by the terms.

A mistake Israel made is not declaring all the West Bank, Gaza, and the Golan Heights as Israel at the end of the Six Day War rather than calling it "Occupied Territory".

Israel has traded "Land for Peace" numerous times and never got peace. When it turned over Gaza to the PLO it left behind over 3000 green houses and orchards which the PLO immediately destroyed.

Israel uprooted 10,000 Israelis from the Gaza Strip and move them out to leave the land to the PLO.

The PLO was given a functioning land for working infrastructure and ways to grow food and they destroyed it and took the billions of dollars they were given to help them become a thriving area and instead spent it on weapons and concrete for tunnels.

Israel's land area is equivalent to a match book sitting on a football field. The Muslims in the region don't want peace or any two state solution. They want to wipe Israel off the map and are not bashful about saying so.

The happiest "Palestinians" are the ones who live in Israel. They are citizens of Israel, free to practice their religion, vote for the candidates of their choice, and have elected members in the Jewish legislature.

The neighboring Arabs could care less about the "Palestinians" because if they did they would being doing more to help them and would have taken care of them so they are no longer refugees for 60+ years.

The people fighting Israel are raising another bunch of ignorants who spend time throwing rocks and protesting rather than being educated in schools. When they are in school they are not learning but only being indoctrinated in hatred for Israel and how great it is to maintain a seventh century culture.

Let's face it. The war will go on until the Israelis crush the will of its enemies to commit war. Israel is the only democracy in the Arab world and the rest of the world continues to swallow the anti-Israel propaganda. Sadly, it's increasing in America because of ignorance as shown by this letter writer.

deestafford
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deestafford 07/22/14 - 07:25 am
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Israel uses its missile defense...

Israel uses its missile defense to protect its civilians. Hamas uses its civilians to protect its missiles.

deestafford
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deestafford 07/22/14 - 07:25 am
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Israel uses its missile defense...

Israel uses its missile defense to protect its civilians. Hamas uses its civilians to protect its missiles.

nofanofobama
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nofanofobama 07/22/14 - 07:39 am
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utter nonsense....hamas fire

utter nonsense....hamas fire missles at civilian tragets...digs tunnels to infiltrate ISRAEL to kill cilvians...gave up land to try to gain peace...the arabs who live in Isreal enjoy a much free'er life than any Arab country..now HAMAS stated the utter destruction of ISREAL..how does one negotiate with that starting point..HAMAS..again tries to kill cillvians , while hiding behind cilivians...we need to support Isreal more, our prez TO TELL PALASTINE LEADERS no more aid till they recognize Isreal right to exist...and deal withe terriorist that hides among them to shoot rockets at ISREAL...Isreal is our only true allie in the area...protect them...

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Bizkit 07/22/14 - 07:57 am
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We give money to both why

We give money to both why isn't he asking for the Us to quit aiding Palestinians too. I support he under dog which is Israel which is surrounded by a sea of Muslim countries. The palestians give no warnings of attacks , and intentionally surround their assets with women and children they intentionally allow to die for propaganda. Why isn't the UN complaining about this abuse?

Bizkit
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Bizkit 07/22/14 - 08:14 am
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If ther were no Palestian the

If ther were no Palestine the Muslim countries would likely attack Israel as they have in the past. The Palestinians are not interested in peace- only a fool would believes that.they are dedicated to destroy Israel and have made no secret of it. Israel is our ally they have helped us . Palestinians are supported by terrorist. Why would Fadel support a terrorist organizations over an US ally? So Fadel is saying he supports Islamic terrorist. Decided I'd put words inhismouth as progressives do daily

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RMSHEFF 07/22/14 - 08:09 am
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Israel is the only successful

Israel is the only successful society in the region and is sustained by the protecting hand of God. We can easily see the curse on those who would destroy Israel.... just look around the region at the unrest, starvation and constant war. At some point Israel will not have the luxury of self restraint and pinpoint strikes. America must stand with Israel however with Obama in the whitehouse Israel is indeed alone.

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RMSHEFF 07/22/14 - 08:17 am
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"If there were no Palestian

"If there were no Palestian the Muslim countries would likely attack Israel as they have in the past"

Yes, this has proven to be a mistake for those who would attack Israel.

dichotomy
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dichotomy 07/22/14 - 08:47 am
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So the writer wants us to

So the writer wants us to stop all American aid to Israel, which is surrounded by countries that want it wiped off of the face of the earth... ALL of which are full of RUSSIAN and CHINESE made weapons and military aid......weapons and military aid that are SMUGGLED into Gaza through tunnels under their border with Egypt.

And the writer does not mention the Palestinians that strap on bomb vests and infiltrate Israel to blow up themselves up on buses and with car bombs. Nor does he mention those who come up out of tunnels in the middle of the night to massacre Israeli villagers.

You cannot fight a polite war. Israel is criticized for killing "innocent" civilians and children. That happens when you start lobbing explosives at each other. And the Palestinians started it FIRST...this time and EVERY TIME. These innocent civilians are the ones who elected Hamas to be their leaders. These innocent civilians are the ones who allow Hamas to hide rocket launchers and ammunition in and near their homes, schools, and hospitals. So be it. The Israelis have no choice. Palestinian terrorists and Hamas have started EVERY round of armed conflicts to which the Israelis have been forced to respond. The Palestinians obviously did not get the memo about "mess with the bull, get the horn". If you don't want any more "innocent" Palestinians killed, I'd suggest that you stop lobbing rockets and sending suicide bombers into Israel. Until they do, I have ZERO sympathy. Personally, I think Israel should level Gaza and push the rubble into the sea.

And to all of those supporters of the Palestinians...the "but Israel stole the land" sympathizers, yes you are correct. They took the land in a war 70 years ago and the country was recognized by the United Nations. Many borders and "invented" countries have resulted from conflict. The fact of the matter is that Israel exists today as a recognized nation and is not going away no matter how many M-80s the Palestinians lobbed over the fence. They are a NATION, they are sovereign, and they have the right, the obligation, to go on the offensive to protect their citizens.

Not only should we continue our aid to Israel, we should give them our stamp of approval to do what they need to do to resolve their security problem with Gaza permanently.

KSL
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KSL 07/22/14 - 08:55 am
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I would rather stop

I would rather stop supporting mothers of criminals to be here at home: no more subsidizing their homes, have to depend on parents, no more their food-- the same, no more their medical-- the same, and on.

deestafford
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deestafford 07/22/14 - 08:55 am
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Let's not forget that the people...

Let's not forget that the people of Gaza elected the Hamas to be their government knowing what dogs they are.

Egypt and most of the Arab world has turned against Hamas. I understand Egypt has even blocked them from moving weapons across the border into Gaza.

About the only ones on Hamas' side is the Muslim Brotherhood---big buddies of Obama and Valerie Jarrett. Who by the way continue to get invites to the White House.

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allhans 07/22/14 - 10:52 am
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I assume it would be safe to

I assume it would be safe to say that the writer is not Jewish ....

KSL
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KSL 07/22/14 - 11:31 am
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Actually, to give Mr Fadel

Actually, to give Mr Fadel credit, his last sentence in his letter was about ending all aid to the region.

Now I don' t know if that is in our best interests, considering the number of terrorist training camps thought to be operating in the US, especially the southern part.

KSL
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KSL 07/22/14 - 11:36 am
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Darby

Indeed. His comments and the responses from the audience were exhilarating.

hoptoad
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hoptoad 07/22/14 - 01:15 pm
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Excuse me, but Mr. Fadel is

Excuse me, but Mr. Fadel is pedaling propaganda and distorted facts reference Israel's intent!

Pond Life
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Pond Life 07/22/14 - 01:28 pm
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Anyone want to take a guess
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Anyone want to take a guess at what Hamas themselves have stated as their reason for being founded in the first place?

underel
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underel 07/22/14 - 01:54 pm
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Cease Aid

to the terroristic organization, the Palestinian Authority. Even the United States government recognizes Fatah as the terrorists that they are. Since Israel is the only Democratic nation in the Middle East, why should we not fund them? They are helping to keep the terrorists at bay!

Why has Hamas not used any of the billions of dollars, which the US has given them in aid to feed the hungry, build bomb shelters, build infrastructure, and promote the general welfare of the people. The money is used for weapons to wage war on Israel. Don't forget that the murder of three Israeli teens was the impetus for this war.

I thank God everyday for the Israelis, their intelligence, their love for life and for the way in which they rear their children to honor the God of Israel and to protect THEIR land. The Iron Dome is serving Israel well.

I pray that God will continue to bless Israel as the Jewish people are the "apple of His Eye" and anyone, who touches Israel will have to answer to Elohim!

Darby
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Darby 07/22/14 - 03:04 pm
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Mr. Fadel

I'm left to assume that your true vocation is writing political humor?

More than eight hundred and fifty thousand Arabs have been assimilated into Israel and given the same rights as those everyone else. Hamas does not want assimilation, they want ALL JEWS DEAD! And they have made that clear.

Meanwhile, Hamas takes aid from the West and from Egypt and uses it to buy concrete to build (assassination and kidnapping) tunnels as well as to buy and/or build long range missiles. (While shielding their missile sites and storage areas with the little children of Gaza.)

My advice would be that the "massacre" (A term I'm certain that Krauthammer never used.) continue until the bloodthirsty animals that comprise Hamas either sue for peace, or cease to exist. Whichever come first. I'd be content with either outcome.

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In a recent episode of his show, even the normally hateful Bill Maher turned on Hamas. And his audience applauded enthusiastically. Maybe there IS hope for peace in the Middle East.

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KSL - Thanks for the affirmation. My post is now out of it's original order because Sean was uncomfortable with my colorful salutation to Mr. Fadel, thus requiring a minor editorial adjustment.

Pond Life
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Pond Life 07/22/14 - 03:27 pm
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Darby....the original
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Darby....the original itteration was accurate.

Darby
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Darby 07/22/14 - 04:04 pm
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Pond -

I thought so as well, but I don't get to make the rules....

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ralphinga 07/22/14 - 07:26 pm
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Pray for ALL people....

The stories coming out of Gaza wouldn't be in the media if the media kept repeating the reality of the brutal nature of Hamas and their willingness to have their own people butcherd to make political points.
The insidious propaganda that emanates from the Muslim world regarding Israel could not occur without the western media and left wing progressives, fostering the lies. It is difficult to imagine that the hatred of Israel and western culture by Muslim supremacists, is the basis of belief for so many who profess Islam as their faith......but it sure seems to be that way. The "Palestinians" in Gaza are nothing for the Muslim world other than a talking point to further the battle to destroy Israel and those who are Jewish, wherever they may live. Does Mr. Fadel think folks in Augusta have not heard the middle east countries rabid rants of desire to destroy Israel? Mr. Faded in the name of Allah, pray for an end to the extremist killings and quit sending money to terrorist causes working to destroy those who worship differently.

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