MOX project of little value

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MOX is a mix of oxides of uranium and plutonium that can be used as fuel for commercial nuclear reactors. It removes some plutonium from the sticky fingers of terrorists. Sound good? Yes, until the cost of doing this soared.

South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley has recently said that if MOX is shelved, she wants the plutonium out of South Carolina. That is silly, but it reflects a 2002 federal law that U.S. Sen. Lindsey Graham had demanded.

Apparently, idiocy is endemic.

First, our plutonium problem. With welcome reductions in our nuclear arsenal, we now have about a hundred tons of plutonium in storage. In the wrong hands, less than 20 pounds of it could make a nuclear bomb. That would be a catastrophe. We must store it securely for decades. Savannah River Site would be logical for this job, with its huge area and a staff experienced in handling plutonium. This would provide good jobs that the governor should have jumped at.

MOX’s design capacity is to disable one ton of plutonium per year, so if MOX were the way to work it off, it would take more than a hundred years. A stock of one ton requires as much protection as for 100 tons.

With the huge increase in fixed costs from construction, would it be profitable? If we plan to cancel the program, we would end up writing off the sunk costs, so why not do it anyway? Would it then be profitable? If MOX fuel can’t be sold at a profit, why continue with it?

In summary, MOX has no value in ridding us of our stored plutonium.

Alternatives must be sought for that. The United States will need to have one or several plutonium storage sites, indefinitely. South Carolina should accept the job for one of them.

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GiantsAllDay
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GiantsAllDay 05/02/14 - 01:06 am
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Nikki, it turns out, has a BS

Nikki, it turns out, has a BS IN........wait for it......Accounting!!!!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikki_Haley
Debits on the left, credits on the right, correct, Nikki?
Turns out she doesn't even know the difference from a proton and a neutron..... Except for what Dr. Clint Wolfe (PhD) tells her. Throwing taxpayer money to fight marriage equality, because the crazies like it. Going to go down in history as one of the worst governors ever. At least George Wallace apologized.

ColCo
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ColCo 05/02/14 - 04:38 am
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Ripple effect

What happens to the businesses around the country who bid, were awarded billions of dollars in contracts and are in the process of constructing the material for the project? Are they supposed to just cease work and take the hit? I wonder if the overall slowdown at SRS is related to their Congressman Joe Wilson and his famous two words to the President, "You Lie!"

ymnbde
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ymnbde 05/02/14 - 05:02 am
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perhaps we can store it with the national debt

they are both dangerous and hold the capacity to destroy
put the plutonium between the Lincoln and Jefferson monuments
as an avant-guarde representation of the toxicity of the debt
put it all in a large sand box along with the heads of liberals
maybe put a Campbells soup can on top and get the NEA to pay for it all?
nuclear waste is only dangerous 77% of the time, anyway
perhaps we'll get lucky?

ymnbde
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ymnbde 05/02/14 - 05:04 am
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goodness, giantsallday

should a governor have a degree in everything?
Accounting to Zoology? your B and your S would
certainly be contained within those bounds

GiantsAllDay
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GiantsAllDay 05/02/14 - 06:43 am
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Point well taken,ymnbde. I

Point well taken,ymnbde. I was just expressing my opinion. But I see what you're saying. Jerry Brown, governor of California, was first elected in the 1970's and he took the place of an actor (who later became the 40th president of the United States). Then when Jerry was elected governor again (when he was 70+ years old) he took the place of another actor.

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Bizkit 05/02/14 - 07:47 am
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The MOX project is the only

The MOX project is the only one of its kind in the US to deal with all this plutonium. This is a really good idea (Bill Clinton and Bush both supported it and other countries are already doing this), but it has been politicized to death. They have already spent a fortune and it was supposed to be completed this year and start functioning in 2016 with project completed by 2035. We have spent 7.7 billion dollars on a project we are going to abandon because Obama. "Despite the problems with the MOx plant, the Obama administration cannot simply drop the plant because it has promised the Russians that it will “disposition” — a term meaning to render the plutonium beyond practical retrieval — 34 tons of former weapons plutonium. The Russians are supposed to do the same, although their schedule has also stretched out."
Obama has a terrible energy plan-we spent years developing fuel cell technology which finally has come to near fruition and Obama drops it just as it has become practical and useable. He isn't a "green energy" supporter at all more so an environmental supporter.

dichotomy
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dichotomy 05/02/14 - 08:24 am
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Don't like MOX.....what's

Don't like MOX.....what's your plan. I do not accept "store it forever" as the answer. Especially since the same ding bats that bad mouth MOX are part of the crowd that killed Yucca Mountain to store other nuclear waste.

The fact of the matter is that we HAVE TO DO SOMETHING and, right now, MOX and Yucca Mountain are the only answers we have. If you come up with a better plan in the future, then we will do that. But we need to START now and quit just letting this stuff lay around in various holes in the ground all around the country waiting for it to be stolen or leak into the ground water. When it comes to the amount of nuclear waste laying around we have reached that proverbial "do SOMETHING, even it is wrong" situation.

Pond Life
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Pond Life 05/02/14 - 10:04 am
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It will take over 100 years?
Unpublished

It will take over 100 years? Great....that's 100 years of usable reactor fuel that you would rather just throw away?

Pond Life
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Pond Life 05/02/14 - 10:19 am
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And the President has a
Unpublished

And the President has a degree in Nuclear Physics? Why do you hold a Governor to a higher standard as the President?

edcushman
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edcushman 05/02/14 - 10:45 am
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"And the President has a
Unpublished

"And the President has a degree in Nuclear Physics?"
PL, he might but we don't know because he is hiding his college records.

Pond Life
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Pond Life 05/02/14 - 10:47 am
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Ed...I would agree, except he
Unpublished

Ed...I would agree, except he NEVER hides things that might make him look good.....those documents always mysteriously leak.

corgimom
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corgimom 05/02/14 - 08:20 pm
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Edcushman, actually, it is

Edcushman, actually, it is well-known that Obama received a degree in Poly Sci from Columbia and a law degree from Harvard.

Why don't you know that?

As for college records, they are pointless- McCain finished near the bottom of his class at Annapolis, and George W Bush got mercy C's from Yale.

Who cares what a President took in college, and what his grades were?

Most of the classes in college are mandatory anyway, so if you're looking for a deep dark conspiracy, there isn't any.

However, all anybody would have to do is look up the requirements for a Columbia poly sci major for that year, and the answer is right there for all to see. That information is readily available, why do you think the information has never been published? (Answer: it is boring and isn't shocking.)

But that doesn't feed the conspiracy theories to tell a boring truth, does it?

As for the crazy nutcase theories that he took classes from "radical" professors, let me tell you how it works in college.

If you want to get done as quickly as possible, you just take whatever you can, whenever you can. You don't care what a professor thinks about anything, all you care about is taking the class and passing it.

But again, some people refuse to accept boring truths.

corgimom
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corgimom 05/02/14 - 08:26 pm
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Yucca Mt, that we have thanks

Yucca Mt, that we have thanks to Ronnie Reagan, is a TERRIBLE answer, who in their right mind would store nuclear waste on a known earthquake fault?

justthefacts
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justthefacts 05/02/14 - 09:19 pm
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Sometimes

It's better not to say anything. Or you can appear, hmmm, uninformed.

Pond Life
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Pond Life 05/03/14 - 07:38 am
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"As for college records, they
Unpublished

"As for college records, they are pointless- McCain finished near the bottom of his class at Annapolis, and George W Bush got mercy C's from Yale. "

And yet they didn't feel they needed to hide it from the public.

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