Raise wages responsibly

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Raising the minimum wage from $7.25 an hour to $10.10 an hour will not just be a mistake – it will be a colossal nightmare that cannot be undone.

It’s not just a matter of paying someone an extra $2.85 an hour. There’s so much more. A few years ago I did analysis of what a person making $10 an hour cost a company (this is without health insurance, paid holidays or paid time off). It really costs $25 an hour!

Now what about those people who have worked hard to get paid $10 or $11? Well, they have already started to complain: “What about us now? We are only making minimum wage or just above; we want a raise of $2.85 an hour, too!” Well, that $2 burger will probably cost you about $4 to $5. Forget getting fries or a drink. You won’t be able to afford it – and you won’t be any better off.

This kind of increase will raise the price of everything. I’m not opposing a raise in the minimum wage. Just do it smarter – 50 cents or 75 cents a year would be the way to go without throwing the whole country under the bus.

Just what we need – the government making more uninformed stupid decisions. Didn’t it learn anything when the housing market crashed?

Janet DeRitis

Evans

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specsta
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specsta 03/27/14 - 01:28 am
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Pay The Darn Money!

These corporations pay a pittance to workers because the corporations are greedy. They prefer that the federal government subsidize their greed. These corporations pay workers such a low wage, the employees must use government assistance to survive.

Corporations are not satisfied with making a little less profit so that their employees can keep a roof over the heads and pay their bills.

Their greed has blinded them to common sense. When employees make more money, they spend more money and the economy grows. It doesn't take a doctorate degree in Economics to figure this out.

Fundamental_Arminian
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Fundamental_Arminian 03/27/14 - 04:53 am
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Fix the money supply

Rising prices are just a symptom of the real problem: the printing of too much money. When too many dollars chase too few goods, the currency loses its value, and more and more money is needed to pay for goods and services.

I feel sorry for employees who can no longer survive on $7.25 an hour. Unfortunately, their employers--especially the small business owners--need a raise too, because virtually all the money that the Federal Reserve creates out of thin air goes to big banks and the super rich. This leaves small business owners strapped for cash just like their employees. How, for instance, can a small restaurant owner raise his employees' pay by $2.75 an hour when he himself must pay more for food, utilities, rent, etc.? His only hope is to pass the costs onto his customers and thereby put his business at risk.

Congress needs to take back control of our currency by ending the Federal Reserve and linking the money supply to gold or something else with intrinsic value. We can't keep raising prices and wages forever! The dollar has lost about 95% of its value since 1913. When the dollar's value falls to zero, the price of everything will be infinity.

Pond Life
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Pond Life 03/27/14 - 06:12 am
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" These corporations pay
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" These corporations pay workers such a low wage, the employees must use government assistance to survive."

I better get my boots on after reading that statement. How about instead of government assistance, you work harder so that your skills are more valuable, then you get a raise on your merits? If you are unable to acquire skills, then get a second job. Why is it the liberals automatically think that if you don't have what you want or need, then the government MUST give it to you? Are they really that devoid of personal responsibility?

wribbs
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wribbs 03/27/14 - 06:26 am
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Pond Life nailed it. There's nothing else I could have added!

Pond Life nailed it. There's nothing else I could have added!

KSL
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KSL 03/27/14 - 06:45 am
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Pond Life @ 6:12

In answer to your question: YES.

ymnbde
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ymnbde 03/27/14 - 07:20 am
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the racists don't care

how the manifestation of their feelings
harms young black males
the young black male unemployment rate will go up
because with the increased cost of labor will come an
increased expectation that same labor will also increase in value
which the liberals have not prepared the young black male to meet
THREE SCHOOLS IN RICHMOND COUNTY
HAD ZERO STUDENTS PASS THE AP EXAMS LAST YEAR

jaymai
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jaymai 03/27/14 - 08:16 am
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Pond Life @ 0612 wrote: "How

Pond Life @ 0612 wrote: "How about instead of government assistance, you work harder so that your skills are more valuable, then you get a raise on your merits?"

Well, the problem is with some low skilled jobs, no matter how hard you work, they're only worth so much to the employer. A lot of jobs have been dumbed down or technology has minimized the need for human intervention to the point that "skills" required to do some jobs can be taught in a 15 minute training video. There comes a point when you just have to realize that no matter how hard you work, your job is only worth so much, and that may be minimum wage. So if you find yourself in one of those jobs and you're smart enough or have the time or means to acquire more marketable skills, do so. If not, you may just have to lower your standard of living.

deestafford
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deestafford 03/27/14 - 08:19 am
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For some reason the liberals believe...

For some reason the liberals believe a person should work only 40 hours a week and be allowed to live of the hourly income produced by a 40-hour a week job.

If a person cannot live on what one job brings in, get a second job. If that doesn't work, get a third job.

A very successful person once told me that a 40-hour work week was for losers. If you wanted to be successful you had to work longer tha and harder than most of the other people.

There is the fallacy that wages have not increased in decades. The dollar per hour rate may not have grown but the health care benefits, the 401k contributions, and many other benefits have increased. As a result, the cost of a worker to the employer has grown significantly over time.

Economic ignorance reigns supreme while "feel goodism" continues to preclude learning basic principles of economics on the part of the left.

Pond Life
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Pond Life 03/27/14 - 08:33 am
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jaymai. Good point. If you
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jaymai. Good point. If you are in a dead end job that doesn't change in value, then how smart is the person who just stays in that dead end job? Why is it the responsibility of the employer to pay you more for labor that hasn't increased in value?

b1
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b1 03/27/14 - 08:51 am
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We will pay for it!

If this increase happens it will be passed on to the consumers! plain and simple. Could not agree more with Pond Life!!!

t3bledsoe
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t3bledsoe 03/27/14 - 09:31 am
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spectsta@ 1:28

"These corporations pay workers such a low wage, the employees must use government assistance to survive"

TWO CAN play at this game!! If you "PUT ON YOUR BOOTS" in order to disagree with this, then your boots will come up wet and dirty, because this statement IS ABSOLUTELY correct!! It is called a "LIVING WAGE"!!

By the way, why the picture change??!!

t3bledsoe
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t3bledsoe 03/27/14 - 09:34 am
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b1 @ 8:51

"If this increase happens it will be passed on to the consumers! plain and simple. Could not agree more with Pond Life!!!"

I WILL CONCEDE, "Pond Life is probably more intelligent than I am, BUT she can be wrong occationally!!" It is called a "LIVING WAGE!!"

t3bledsoe
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t3bledsoe 03/27/14 - 09:38 am
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jaymia @ 8:16

"Well, the problem is with some low skilled jobs, no matter how hard you work, they're only worth so much to the employer. A lot of jobs have been dumbed down or technology has minimized the need for human intervention to the point that "skills" required to do some jobs can be taught in a 15 minute training video"

BEST ARGUEMENT EVER!! You go brother / sister!! "IT IS CALLED A LIVING WAGE!!"

t3bledsoe
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t3bledsoe 03/27/14 - 09:41 am
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General comment

ANYONE making more than $10.10, SHOULD BE WILLING to pay more knowing that the minimum wage has been raised to a "LIVING WAGE"!!

t3bledsoe
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t3bledsoe 03/27/14 - 10:23 am
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LTE

"Well, that $2 burger will probably cost you about $4 to $5. Forget getting fries or a drink. You won’t be able to afford it – and you won’t be any better off"

With all due respect, WHO WON"T be better off?? Who says that we should be able to get a burger for less than $4?? EVERYONE making well above $10.10 per hour, SHOULD feel very good about this JUST AS WE FEEL WHEN WE GIVE TO CHARITY!!

t3bledsoe
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t3bledsoe 03/27/14 - 10:28 am
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Question

If someone is working 40 hours/ plus per week, DON'T they deserve a living wage??!!

t3bledsoe
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t3bledsoe 03/27/14 - 11:18 am
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General comment

This is one subject that Conseravatives and I will never agree on!! I just can't, in my worst nightmares, understand why people; OF ANY POLITICAL PARTY; can continue to deny ALL WORKERS of a living wage!!

Little Lamb
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Little Lamb 03/27/14 - 11:51 am
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Living Wage

The "living wage" euphemism is a red herring. The people who agitate for federally-mandated minimum wage increases are never happy. Whatever the minimum wage is, the liberals want it to be more. Hence, they came up with this "living wage" mantra in hopes of fooling a few people. It looks like t3bledsoe took the bait.

Ms. DeRitis speaks truthfully when she says that raising the minimum wage has undesirable ripple effects throughout the entire wage/price spectrum. Many union contracts peg the pay rates of apprentice and journeyman skilled workers to the federal minimum wage. Say, for example, that a journeyman iron worker's union wage is set at 3.4 times the minimum wage. When you raise the minimum wage from $7.25 to $10.10, that journeyman iron worker gets a hefty raise and he's not bringing any more productivity to the employer's plate.

Wage/price inflation is not pretty. It has devastated the savings of millions throughout history. We would do well to avoid it here.

Pond Life
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Pond Life 03/27/14 - 02:12 pm
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Let's try to explain this yet
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Let's try to explain this yet again. You say $7.25 an hour is not enough to live on, and you propose that we raise that wage to $10.50. Let's assume that we do that. As a result, the businesses will raise the cost of their goods and services to make up for the extra business expense. Now the extra money that the minimum wage people make is eaten up by the increase in cost of goods and services, and $10.50 now has the same buying power that $7.25 used to have. NOW....what is the NEW "living wage?" Can't you see that artificially raising wages helps NO ONE. Putting more dollars in your pocket does nothing for you if it takes more dollars to buy the same things.

nofanofobama
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nofanofobama 03/27/14 - 02:41 pm
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ONLY 2-3 percent of the work

ONLY 2-3 percent of the work force is paid a minuim wage..the problem we have is that administration is anti growth thru taxation and regulation..obumler is anti business and fossil fuels..the dakotas are booming..and keystone sits idle..we are destroying the dollar thru devaluation...we have dims openly advocating not working more than thirty hours because you can get free health care now...govt employees openly trying to increase dependancy on food stamps..let me tell you a living wage is a wage that ought to be EARNED not an entitlement..believe it or not good employess get good pay...better employess make more...etc..minuim wage is a starter wage...plain and simple...if say after 3 months and you still make the minuim ...look in the mirrior...i hired for 15 years and managed te same...workers are not nearly as motivated, dedicated and teachable now..they all seem to want everything now ..and without paying any dues...

Pond Life
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Pond Life 03/27/14 - 02:54 pm
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Nancy Pelosi said we should
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Nancy Pelosi said we should use natural gas instead of fossil fuels.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8At2Lch-m5c

t3bledsoe
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t3bledsoe 03/27/14 - 02:57 pm
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PL @ 2:12

I literally love argueing with you about the "living wage". We will NEVER agree on this subject, BUT it sharpens my agueing abilities. Believe it or not, I do understand your point, BUT aren't these workers to have VALUE enough to make a living wage?

Pond Life
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Pond Life 03/27/14 - 03:03 pm
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I don't think you DO
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I don't think you DO understand my point. It isn't about whether or not they have value, it's about the fact that they will NOT be able to afford any more if you increase the minimum wage, due to the corresponding increase in the cost of goods and services, therefore they are no better off. There is nothing to agree with. If you understand the mathematics and the economics, it just makes sense.

specsta
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specsta 03/27/14 - 04:24 pm
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Get What Job???

It's really easy for someone who is not in need to say "get a job". Arrogant people tell homeless people to "get a job". Ignorant people tell someone who hasn't found work for months to "get a job". I wish that every person who uttered that phrase out of ignorance, arrogance or just plain 'ol meanness would find themselves at the receiving end of a termination letter.

Maybe after a person understands what it means to be jobless, to be destitute, to be in need, to want to work and not be able to find work - then just maybe that person will let the icicle in their heart melt and become a human being again.

edcushman
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edcushman 03/27/14 - 04:31 pm
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"Nancy Pelosi said we should
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"Nancy Pelosi said we should use natural gas instead of fossil fuels."
PL, why are you surprised Pelosi is pretty smart for a democrat. She is obviously smarter than most that vote for democrats.

jimmymac
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jimmymac 03/27/14 - 04:32 pm
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MINIMUM
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Minimum wage jobs are not and never were intended to give someone a "living wage" The jobs exist because it takes a marginal level of intelligence to do the job and requires next to no skills. I never worked a forty hour week in my life. I worked as many hours as it took to get the job done. People working part time and expecting to live like people working full time is just idiocy.

Pond Life
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Pond Life 03/27/14 - 04:55 pm
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What job? Are you kidding?
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What job? Are you kidding?

http://www.everyjobforme.com/?asID=38338658&creative=43956447432&matchty...

Are you just too good to flip burgers? After all, the topic is minimum wage jobs, specta. When I was laid off, I delivered pizzas until I found a better job. You know how hard it was to find that job? It was the first application I put in. If you are willing to work, there is work available. Provided you are not too good for a hard working job.

itsanotherday1
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itsanotherday1 03/27/14 - 05:28 pm
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Pond Life

That (your 15:03) is logic that seems to escape many; even supposed smart people. At the end of the day, after the dust settles on all of the other related pay scales that will get pushed up in relation to a minimum wage bump, those on the bottom will still be where they are now.
The ones who get hurt are the people on fixed incomes who lose purchasing and investment value with inflation. The retired and elderly get HOSED with high inflation.

Little Lamb
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Little Lamb 03/27/14 - 05:37 pm
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Inflation

Thank you, IAD. I seldom get comments when I bring up the cruelties of inflation. Almost nobody gets it. I'm glad you do.

itsanotherday1
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itsanotherday1 03/27/14 - 05:40 pm
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Specsta, I could get a job

Specsta, I could get a job TOMORROW if I wanted it. I've already turned down two, no, three offers in the past few months because I can afford to be very picky. I'm retired and living OK on IRA and pension, and not interested in nights, weekends, or full time work. But you can bet your sweet bippy I would be working SOON if I needed it to pay bills.

Trucking companies are advertising daily for drivers, some even offering to train at their expense for a CDL. Those are 40-50K/year jobs. There was recent advertising for welders and pipefitters. I saw a sign out today looking for construction workers and heavy equipment operators; but I guess if you can't read a tape measure, you best stick with washing dishes and making burgers. Oh, and HVAC technicians needed also. All of these require skills that too many are unwilling to attain. Tough cookies. I was there once and worked full time while going back to school after dropping out of high school. Went back two different times as a matter of fact; the second time for a career change after the first turned into a dead end. No excuse for anyone else not doing the same. Just gotta WANT to.

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