Carol policy disrespectful

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I read in the news recently that Augusta’s Charlie Norwood VA Medical Center banned religious carols.

“Military service veterans, male and female, represent people of all faiths,” hospital spokesman Brian Rothwell said in a statement, according to the Athens-Banner Herald. “It is out of respect for every faith that the Veterans Administration gives clear guidance on what ‘spiritual care’ is to be given and who is to give it.”

I’m willing to bet that if U.S. Rep. Charlie Norwood were alive, he would have the administrator responsible for this emptying bedpans before the sun went down. Mr. Norwood surely would not allow him to be in any administrative capacity after enforcing such a stupid, hateful policy.

My guess is that Mr. Rothwell is not from around these parts. No one from around here could be that disrespectful and hateful.

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Lee Benedict
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Lee Benedict 12/28/13 - 09:34 am
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Well, John Barrow,

get off your butt and do something without taking a poll. Talk about intolerant! The VA...the OBAMA VA, in its second term is coming out against Christianity in full force.

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harley_52 12/28/13 - 11:41 am
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I Doubt Mr. Rothwell...

...is the guy who established the policy, more likely just the unfortunate Public Relations man who had to announce a policy with which he may well have disagreed.

The local VA is not the only place where an attack on Christians was made this year. I read of others at other VA hospitals. It's part of an ongoing, ever-expanding attack on Christianity being waged by the American Left, including the current Administration under the leadership of President Obama.

DanK
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DanK 12/28/13 - 12:26 pm
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The proper solution

As long as the Christmas carols (just like any other religious services) are provided in a location where patients can *choose* to go hear them (like an auditorium or cafeteria outside meal times), but they are not *forced* to listen to them, there is no reason to ban carols entirely. And in fact, the hospital did not ban all carols. It required that the carols sung had to be non-denominational.

This was consistent with the policies of the U.S. military services. Chapels and services are non-denominational and religiously neutral -- except for specific denominational services that are offered by choice.

It should be remembered that the military services represent all Americans and must be non-discriminatory towards all military personnel. The military includes personnel who are Jewish, Buddhist, Muslim, Hindu and other spiritual beliefs, as well as non-believers.

However, DoD policy states that there should be an effort made to *accommodate* the beliefs of specific religions when possible. The hospital should have looked for a way to accommodate the desire of those patients who wanted to listen to carols to do so.

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 12/28/13 - 12:43 pm
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"Chapels and services are

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"Chapels and services are non-denominational and religiously neutral -- except for specific denominational services that are offered by choice. "

Religiously neutral? Again DanK demonstrates that he/she has no idea what he/she's talking about.

Darby
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Darby 12/28/13 - 01:06 pm
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"It required that the carols sung had to be non-denominational."

The connotation attached to the word "carol" is "Christmas". Who, other than Dank has even heard of a non-Christmas, Christmas carol?

So tired of liberals, progressives, Democrats, left-wingers, socialists, and fascists (but now I'm becoming redundant) playing word games with the English language in order to make a point that does not exist in any normal person's reality.

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 12/28/13 - 02:57 pm
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If the "progressives" are so

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If the "progressives" are so Hell bent on keeping Christmas out of the public, then why do they not go to work on Christmas? You never hear of them fighting to get the holiday off from work banned.

corgimom
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corgimom 12/28/13 - 03:14 pm
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I know plenty of people that

I know plenty of people that work on Christmas, don't you, HA?

In fact, my husband has had to work a few himself.

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 12/28/13 - 03:53 pm
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I sure do, Corgi..but those

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I sure do, Corgi..but those who claim to be offended that are off on Christmas never are lobbying to get the day off banned.

CobaltGeorge
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CobaltGeorge 12/28/13 - 04:49 pm
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Work On Christmas--SO

I worked on Christmas many times in 20 years in the military. My MOS was a 24/7/365 job. There are many military personnel that work this Christmas. I have never heard any of them ever complaining about it either.

CobaltGeorge
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CobaltGeorge 12/28/13 - 04:52 pm
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And

there is no place in what is left of the US Constitution that mandates you to listen to Christmas corals, unless you operate under the King SMNCICBHO(M) the Hammer & Sickle man's constitution.

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 12/28/13 - 06:20 pm
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Freedom OF religion does not

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Freedom OF religion does not mean freedom FROM religion. In order for everyone to truly be free, you must tolerate seeing others practice their religion. But as we have seen repeatedly, the so called tolerant LEFT are some of the least tolerant people alive.

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myfather15 12/28/13 - 06:45 pm
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The "tolerant left" aren't

The "tolerant left" aren't just SOME of the LEAST tolerant, they are the absolute LEAST tolerant!!! They are precisely the MOST intolerant!! They possess ZERO tolerance for ANYTHING they don't believe in!!

corgimom
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corgimom 12/28/13 - 08:28 pm
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Would any of you have a

Would any of you have a problem if you were in a VA hospital and had to listen to the Muslims' call to prayer 5 times a day? I think so!

And maybe the VA thinks of that when they make their policies.

corgimom
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corgimom 12/28/13 - 08:32 pm
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DanK, the carols weren't

DanK, the carols weren't banned. The Alleluia choir was offered a meeting room or a chapel in which to sing religious carols, but they refused to do that.

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owensjef3 12/28/13 - 09:08 pm
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No big deal here folks, move

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No big deal here folks, move on.

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 12/28/13 - 09:28 pm
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"Would any of you have a

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"Would any of you have a problem if you were in a VA hospital and had to listen to the Muslims' call to prayer 5 times a day? I think so! "

No....it's called tolerance.

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 12/28/13 - 09:40 pm
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"No big deal here folks, move

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"No big deal here folks, move on."

That's right...just accept the attack on your religion. Never question the government.....especially if it's Obama who's in charge..he is perfect....never been better....greatest President ever, regardless of his abysmal record. That's what the spineless, sad little followers of Obama and his Marxists would love for you to do.....just quietly accept it and move on.

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owensjef3 12/29/13 - 02:48 am
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I think that's in

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I think that's in overreaction .

Darby
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Darby 12/29/13 - 12:32 pm
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"I think that's in (sic) overreaction."

That's the magnificent beauty of true freedom. You can "think" what you like.

Even when you're totally wrong!

GodisSoGood
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GodisSoGood 12/30/13 - 09:50 am
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"Would any of you have a

"Would any of you have a problem if you were in a VA hospital and had to listen to the Muslims' call to prayer 5 times a day? I think so!"

Nope....rather, I would feel sorry for them for believing in a prophet who died, and is still dead.

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