Regroup on Obamacare

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Given that the United States of America is more than 237 years old, it seems like we could take three or four months to regroup, get the operational details of the Affordable Health Care Act right and re-initiate this darn thing. This assumes that we have an effective group to begin with.

That is getting more debatable with each passing day.

Oh, by the way, it has been a few weeks now. How is the committee on balancing the budget and addressing the debt ceiling doing? Any progress on this far more overreaching problem?

Drummond Kurtz

Martinez

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carcraft
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carcraft 11/02/13 - 06:25 am
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A company,

A company, QSSI, ran by an Obama campaign bundeler, is getting the nod to fix the system. This was one of the original contractors! I don't think it will be fixed for at least two to three months!

Gary Ross
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Gary Ross 11/02/13 - 06:07 am
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Massive blunder

Why is it that the same contractors who built this monster are now being rewarded to fix their mistakes? Any private software programming company could have designed this at 1/10th the cost and it would actually work! That's government beurocracy at it's finest, and the sad part is we don't have the exra cash to pay for this.

This whole thing is a massive blunder. We're $17 TRILLION in debt and we're developing yet another freebee for the lazy minded takers? It's all a big disquise (Happy Halloween). We've already been paying for the uninsured with exorberant hospital and doctor fees. Do you really think those fees will come down when everyone has insurance? It's all about more money for the greedy and corrupt. It has nothing to do with health care. Watch and see.

Gary Ross
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Gary Ross 11/02/13 - 06:07 am
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Massive blunder

Why is it that the same contractors who built this monster are now being rewarded to fix their mistakes? Any private software programming company could have designed this at 1/10th the cost and it would actually work! That's government beurocracy at it's finest, and the sad part is we don't have the exra cash to pay for this.

This whole thing is a massive blunder. We're $17 TRILLION in debt and we're developing yet another freebee for the lazy minded takers? It's all a big disquise (Happy Halloween). We've already been paying for the uninsured with exorberant hospital and doctor fees. Do you really think those fees will come down when everyone has insurance? It's all about more money for the greedy and corrupt. It has nothing to do with health care. Watch and see.

localguy55
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localguy55 11/02/13 - 06:09 am
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This debacle of a law should

This debacle of a law should be scrapped not re-initiate. This like saying; White Star, the passengers of the Titanic did not like the way the ship sank. Please refloat her and get the sinking right next time.

Firstly, this notion is absurd on the face of it. However, this is what the pro-Obamacrapcare people want the rest of America to swallow. Bad law is bad law. You cannot fix bad law, espeically this law.

But if you dig deeper, this law was never intended to work properly anyway. It was passed three years ago, and set into motion by this crimminal administration, not to work but to destroy the existing healthcare system as we know it.

After the collapes of this white elephant, these charlotans could come back and claim that only single payer can fix the problem. They demonize insurance companies, hospitals, and doctors, and the fix is in.

This is the perfect bait and switch. The only problem now is that this messed up law is firmly attached around Obama's and the Dumbocrats' neck.

myfather15
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myfather15 11/02/13 - 06:15 am
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93 million???

93 million dollars paid to build the website, and it's a disaster!!! That should be enough said, but certainly not to the leftists!! They are already blaming conservatives, saying they "Sabotaged" the website!!

You watch and see!! When the Affordable Care Act fails miserably, the left WILL find a way to place the blame on republicans!! That is what they do!! They lie and deny any responsibility for ANYTHING that goes wrong.

soapy_725
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soapy_725 11/02/13 - 06:27 am
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Education and Health Care costs will bring USA to its knees. But
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even then it will not repent.

soapy_725
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soapy_725 11/02/13 - 06:28 am
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We will have a totalitarian state if it kills all of us--OBAMA
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We will have a totalitarian state if it kills all of us--OBAMA

soapy_725
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soapy_725 11/02/13 - 06:31 am
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The Monkeys had him nailed. " He's a believer, not a trace of
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doubt in his mind; He's in love, he's a believer". Obama worships at the feet of his gods Marx and Engels.

soapy_725
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soapy_725 11/02/13 - 06:32 am
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soapy_725
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soapy_725 11/02/13 - 06:33 am
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Obama has a dream. Bring America to its knees before Obama.
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Obama has a dream. Bring America to its knees before Obama.

david jennings
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david jennings 11/02/13 - 08:04 am
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Whats the real reason

I don't believe this is even about health care. Maybe a power grab or another handout. I know the only way to pay for it is with working peoples money, taxpayers. I'm working now and have insurance, but, if I lose my job I don't see how I will be able to afford insurance? So, is someone else going to pay it for me. I refuse to lose any sleep over it.

deestafford
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deestafford 11/02/13 - 08:18 am
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These clowns can't even get a website going with $600+million

and they think they can run 1/6th of the country's economy?

85% of the people liked their insurance and 15% were uninsured. Why did these "elite" decide to ruin the system for the 85% rather than fix the 15%? Simple. They want to control us by deciding that they know what's best for us...like having a single man required to have maternity coverage, a woman to have prostrate cancer coverage, and childless people to have vision coverage for children. After all is said and done the CBO says there will still be over 15 million people left uninsured.

Now they are spinning that the plans people had that they liked were inferior and they needed what the government thought they needed. To think they could require companies to offer more coverage and reduce the price has no understanding of economics.

What Obama and his cronies have done in essence is saying, "We are going to increase your cable channels by 100 because we think you need the additional ones even though you may want only two. And we know that your cable bill will be cut in half since we added these additional 100 channels." Do you think the cable company would be able to add 100 channels to everyone's service and lower the price? Not in this life time.

The democrats are saying the Republicans are just saying "no" and offering no alternative. I think Rep Price has introduced years ago HR 2500(?) which is a much better system.

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Lee Benedict 11/02/13 - 08:58 am
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QSSI

is owned by UnitedHealth Group. United supported Obamacare BIG time. Where are Woodward and Bernstein?
http://chicksontheright.com/posts/item/24907-obama-administration-brilli...

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harley_52 11/02/13 - 09:12 am
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"This whole thing is a massive blunder....

....We're $17 TRILLION in debt and we're developing yet another freebee for the lazy minded takers?"

Yes, that's one view. It's all a "massive blunder." I have a totally different view. I think it's all planned and scripted.

When you have a few extra minutes, google "Cloward and Piven Strategy" and then "Saul Alinsky Rules For Radicals." Take a look at what pops up. It won't take you more than 30 minutes if you're in a big hurry, but spend an hour, or two, if you can pull yourself away from a football game, or "Dancing With The Stars" that long. You won't be sorry.

When Candidate Barack Hussein Obama declared that "we're five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States Of America," some of us knew exactly what he meant.

None of this is an "accident," or a "massive blunder." It's actually a plan, now in the execution stage.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cqN4NIEtOY

harley_52
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harley_52 11/02/13 - 09:14 am
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"Where are Woodward and Bernstein?"

If Nixon had been a Democrat you wouldn't know their names, would you?

Obama is a Democrat.

dichotomy
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dichotomy 11/02/13 - 09:19 am
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Just keep saying......"The

Just keep saying......"The Republicans were right. They tried to tell us."

harley_52
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harley_52 11/02/13 - 10:05 am
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"Do you think the cable company would be able to....

.... add 100 channels to everyone's service and lower the price?"

I doubt it, especially since they're adding 45,000,000 new "free" subscribers whose bills I'll be paying along with 500,000 new cable tv employees whose salaries will by paid by us "paying customers" as well.

Not to worry, though...we were told if we "liked our old plan" we "could keep it, period."

I feel better for that assurance.

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Bizkit 11/02/13 - 10:08 am
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What's the odds the Senate

What's the odds the Senate will investigate Obama lying about the ACA for support like they did Bush lying about WMD for support of attacking Iraq?
He lied by any standard and all the rationalization are disingenuous or just another lie. All insurance private or employer has to be ACA compliant by 2014 so all insurance will be cancelled-very few if any will be grandfathered. Since they passed the law without reading it, they should give people time to read it because no one knew about the grandfather clause. So out of work the force of 150 million about 100-130 million will be cancelled and need new insurance.

Bizkit
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Bizkit 11/02/13 - 10:10 am
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Bod I provided an article

Bod I provided an article that supported the mortgage crisis caused by govt regulations and interference-not the lies you propagated. You keep up the misinformation and conspiracy theories.

t3bledsoe
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t3bledsoe 11/02/13 - 10:31 am
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1 year delay

Looks like Obamacare should have been postponed 1 year anyway. The website doesn't work, therefore it is diffecult for me to believe people can meet the dead line to be covered on Jan. 1st!!

t3bledsoe
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t3bledsoe 11/02/13 - 10:56 am
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website

Just tried to get to the log-in screen. Couldn't even get that far!! I wonder if Obama ever trys to get on??

Bizkit
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Bizkit 11/02/13 - 11:01 am
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The website disaster just

The website disaster just demonstrates the fed. govt inability to handle the job. The greater problem is a huge population will now be wards of the state receiving free health care, food subsidies, etc. that long term is untenable. The ACA is raising the cost of insurance because of all the new mandated services and expensive pre-existing conditions-that's to be expected. Subsidies are suppose to offset this cost-but it doesn't and it will hit the middle class with big new expense in their budgets(they wealthy can afford the cost). The young are suppose to foot the bill of the aged but they aren't signing up yet. Because the govt foots the bill of Medicaid everyone who works will pay higher taxes. We know millions with private insurance this year have been dropped, and around 100 million next year of employer-based insurance will be given notices of changes to their insurance as it becomes ACA compliant. The ruse it that it is a good deal because the rich will pay the higher cost, and everyone else will receive a subsidy so they'll have better insurance for less. But the subsidies are only for those less than 94K and middle class incomes run 123-45K so some middle class pay full cost and even those making 35K would pay $600/year. At 45K you pay half the cost of the insurance, and 75K you pay most of the cost. Because the govt is funding the subsidy we don't know if it will last or be diminished. There is no evidence that bundling payments is a good approach and it may make things worse. The middle class will really be footing the bill for the poor and this law will just increase the wealth disparity.

myfather15
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myfather15 11/02/13 - 12:55 pm
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David Jennings

This has NEVER been about health care from the beginning. It's about Obama's dream of redistributing the wealth and moving this Country radically left!! Because those who CAN pay for this, are going to catch the bill for those "less fortunate". That is the bottom line. If they can't get redistribution of wealth outright, they will circumvent the system and get it through subtle means.

teaparty
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teaparty 11/02/13 - 12:49 pm
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This is good article about
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This is good article about the benefits of Osamacare.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2013/11/02/obamacare-alabama-cancella...

KasparHauser
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KasparHauser 11/03/13 - 06:43 am
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Barbie Congress "Govering is Hard!"
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Looks like the Geriatric Old Party will be as inept at making reasonable health care work as they have been at coming up with a reasonable fix to entitlement programs that the whole country, and not just the Ideologues, thinks is right. They've only had decades, with nothing to show but a plan to put our retirements into the stockmarket... that tanked so spectacularly due to Duh-Byah/GOP blindness.

Healthcare reform should make the workforce more productive and more mobile, but the GOP and it's True Believers can only curse the dark.

But, then, that's a given seeing as they've demonstrated they're too chicken to even talk about the subject at election time when the Bagger Brotherhood chants "Keep your Gummint hand off my Social Security/Medicare/Meals-on-Wheels".

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