Religious issues prompt 'what ifs'

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In October 1801, three men from the Danbury Baptist Association wrote a letter to President Jefferson. What if the letter had never been delivered, or what if Jefferson failed to reply? What if he had chosen a different five-word metaphor besides “separation of church and state”? Would the country be different today? If he had known these words would result in my being denied the free exercise of my faith in the classroom, locker room, football field or workplace, would he have acted differently?

For 50 years, atheists and sympathetic courts have been on the attack against any expression of faith outside the confines of church property. They have been very successful. They have used these five words to rain litigation fear upon municipalities, organizations and individuals who would exercise their constitutional right to express their faith anywhere without fear of reprisals from our government.

The intention of the First Amendment was to limit government from interfering with the expressing of one’s faith. The purpose of the Danbury letter was to voice concern by people of faith that their right to live without prejudice from their government would not be abridged.

Would we be better off had we allowed individuals to continue to express their faith openly in the public square? “Of course not,” would be the reply from individuals who disdain people of faith. They will condemn my remarks, mock Christians and confuse the issue with distracting aberrations. The scoffers never can draw a correlation between our current cultural rot and a rejection of Godly principles.

One reality can’t be denied. We have gone from commandments to Columbine, God to guards, faith to f-bombs, character to condoms and truth to twerking.

What if we still had the Ten Commandments on schoolhouse walls? Maybe, just maybe, people would follow them.

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deestafford
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deestafford 10/20/13 - 01:09 am
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The letter writer brings up an interesting thought.

I sometimes wonder how the Founders would rephrase some of the Constitution to make it clearer so that groups such as the ACLU and activists judges could not get something out of it that is not there.

Who would have thought that Christian would be persecuted in our country as they are today? I'm speaking of in our military under Obama chaplains cannot preach a sermon against homosexuality. Officers and NCO's have been ordered to take Bibles off their desks because they may offend somebody and it is establishing a religion. Doors to Catholic Chapels were locked and volunteer priests were threaten with arrest if they said mass during the "shutdown".

What has become of the great country our Founders pledged their "lives, fortunes, and sacred honor" and the one I fought for and was wounded for? It has become victim to Obama's leftism and his liberation theology.

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mrenee2003 10/20/13 - 10:48 am
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Would the country be different today?

Yes, it would. We would live in a theocracy and ruled by extremists. And let's be honest here, you really don't want people to have the right to exercise their faith in the classroom, locker room, football field or workplace. You only want the right to exercise the Christian faith in the classroom, locker room, football field or workplace. Thankfully, the framers of the constitution u/s your kind and penned a document that protects us against religious ideologues.

GodisSoGood
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GodisSoGood 10/21/13 - 12:04 pm
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I would not be offended

I would not be at all offended if muslims, hindus, mormons, etc were allowed to express their religous beliefs if I am allowed to express mine. I find it ironic that people are so easily offended by something they don't believe in. What is offensive is that Christians are expected to take a back seat to all other "freedom of speech" issues. Christians are denied freedom of speech more than any other group in America...more than the Muslims, the Mormons, the homosexuals, African-Americans, etc.

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mrenee2003 10/21/13 - 04:22 pm
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GodisSoGood

When have you ever had to take a back seat concerning freedom of speech? When? Name one instance when a Hindu or Muslim was able to force you to participate in or listen to their religious dogma and you were told you couldn't express yours. Name one instance of that. Are you saying that Hindus and Muslims are allowed to pray in public schools and Christians can't? Are you saying that Hindus and Muslims can pray at football games and Christians can't? Are you saying that Hindus and Muslims can have parties at work to celebrate their holidays but Christians can't? There are Christian churches on every corner, Christmas tree lightings on public property, and Christmas cards sent through the U.S. postal system. There is no war on Christmas and no one, not one person, has taken away your right to be a Christian or express your faith. For the record, Mormons are Christian and comparing Christians to homosexuals and African Americans is like comparing apples to oranges. And, believe it or not, homosexuals and African Americans can be Christian.

GodisSoGood
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GodisSoGood 10/22/13 - 01:34 pm
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mrenee2003

I was not comparing Chrsitians to homosexuals nor to African-Americans. I simply made a statement regarding groups of people that ACLU possibly aims to protect. I'm not sure where you draw your conclusion of the supposed comparison.

Fortunately, I was blessed to attend a Christian school, so my prayers to Jesus were not only allowed, but encouraged.

At the workplace, I had an instance of being reprimanded for having a screen saver that displayed "God Bless America". So, yes, my civil liberties were violated as I was asked to remove the screensaver because it was offensive.

You made the statement "And let's be honest here, you really don't want people to have the right to exercise their faith in the classroom, locker room, football field or workplace. You only want the right to exercise the Christian faith in the classroom, locker room, football field or workplace". You are wrong...dead wrong.

Again I say I would not be at all offended if muslims, hindus, mormons, etc were allowed to express their religous beliefs if I am allowed to express mine. Go pray to Allah, Buddah, whomever.. if that is what you choose. I'll pray to Jesus, and no offense will be taken.

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soldout 10/23/13 - 04:03 pm
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no power

The reason everyone is focused on fighting Christianity is because it is the only religion with power as it worships the one true God. The others have no power; none. All battles are won and lost in the spirital realm and then you see them carried out in the natural realm. Man gets no choice in what is sin or the truth of the Word. Once you have a relationship with Chirst and have the Spirit of the creator of the universe living in you and directing your life you will have no trouble understanding truth and having joy and peace that others can't who reject Christ. All have a void in them that only Christ can fill. They seek temporary happiness and give up eternal joy, peace and living forever with the a God who loves them more than they can understand.

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