Founders saw this coming

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This hysteria coming from Democrats over the government shutdown is more than expected. It is as predictable as the sun rising in the east. They will not debate the issues and win the argument with their ideas. Instead, they resort to behavior and language one could witness on a school playground. Again, predictable – “legislative arsonist,” “blatant extortionist” and “people with a bomb strapped to their chest (sic).” “Unhinged.” “Extremist.” “Unstable.” Insane people who “have lost their minds.” What you really are hearing from these malcontents are psychotic projections of their own shortcomings – true psychological nudity.

We are running an annual deficit of nearly $17 trillion and climbing. Our unfunded liabilities such as Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid and now Obamacare makes the debt, by one estimation, nearly $90 trillion. There is not enough money in the universe to repay this debt – yet they want more. Always more. In his Oct. 8 press conference, President Obama made the outrageous claim that raising the debt limit ceiling will not increase the debt. Really? Then why raise it? The Treasury takes in well north of $200 billion a month. Our payments on the debt barely total $38 billion. As long as those payments are made, there is no default. It is a purposeful lie that is being told to the American people.

The Founding Fathers had the foresight to know that one day our system of government could be governed by people who are virtueless and without honor. They would no longer protect the Constitution, no longer protect the individual and the individual’s rights, but instead pander to factions and opt to grow and foster an all-powerful, centralized government with unlimited power. The Founders were wise men.

In Federalist Paper 58, James Madison wrote that the House of Representatives should be the body that controls the purse strings: “The House of Representatives cannot only refuse, but they alone can propose, the supplies requisite for the support of government. They, in a word, hold the purse – that powerful instrument by which we behold, in the history of the British Constitution, an infant and humble representation of the people gradually enlarging the sphere of its activity and importance, and finally reducing, as far as it seems to have wished, all the overgrown prerogatives of the other branches of the government. This power over the purse may, in fact, be regarded as the most complete and effectual weapon with which any constitution can arm the immediate representatives of the people, for obtaining a redress of every grievance, and for carrying into effect every just and salutary measure.”

It is way past time for House Speaker John Boehner and the Republican-controlled house to rein in this out-of-control spending – just as the Framers intended. Mr. Obama, the Democrats and, disgustingly enough, some Republicans will disagree. Tough. If Boehner and the Republicans cave, the future of the Republican party will be seriously in doubt. Mr. Obama and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid must be reminded that they are not monarchs. They are part of a governmental system that was designed, with good reason, to be adversarial.

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carcraft
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carcraft 10/16/13 - 10:58 am
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those liberals Advocating for

those liberals Advocating for a "living wage" please read Walter Williams column in todays Augusta Chronicle. I worked at a grain elevator when I was young one summer. The manager told me to clean out the floors of silo 1 and silo 2. I asked him about silo 3 and silo 4. He told me that 1&2 had flat floors because they were constructed when labor was cheap. Silos 3&4 were constructed during WWII so they had funnel floors that were more expensive to build but didn't need to shovel out the grain trapped in the corners. When minimum wages are increased past a certain point then business owners seek other solutions and job disappear. Walter Williams points out the result in statistics in todays column!

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OJP 10/16/13 - 11:08 am
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I'm sure this has already been pointed out but it's kinda huge:

"We are running an annual deficit of nearly $17 trillion and climbing."

No, no we're not. Our debt is $17 trillion. The 2012 deficit was $1.1 trillion.

Also, the debt ceiling is not about incurring new debt, it is about paying for things Congress has already authorized, i.e., debt Congress has already incurred.

OJP
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OJP 10/16/13 - 11:17 am
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And hold your noses, conservatives... it's coming.

The Great Capitulation by Boehner.

Now... can someone tell me what all this was for? We have lost, what, $5 billion because of this shutdown? What was accomplished (substantively)?

Edit: Better estimate seems to be $5 billion, not $20.

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jack234 10/16/13 - 11:11 am
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As an independent, I am glad

As an independent, I am glad the republicans decide to fold their tent and go home. Compromise is the best route. Instead of kicking the can down the road, pick up the can and hit tom cruz on the head. Speaking as a strong independent.

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t3bledsoe 10/16/13 - 11:31 am
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LTE

"We are running an annual deficit of nearly $17 trillion and climbing. Our unfunded liabilities such as Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid and now Obamacare makes the debt, by one estimation, nearly $90 trillion"

This writer should have done some proof reading and some fact checking.

t3bledsoe
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t3bledsoe 10/16/13 - 11:34 am
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"They will not debate the issues and win the argument with their ideas."

It's always The Democrats. The Democrats are not going to debate because they already know the offering from The House are not acceptable.

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jack234 10/16/13 - 11:39 am
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The tea party can go home,

The tea party can go home, raise their confederate flags and drank tea, Speaking for my local coalition of Independents. The President has shown his cards. Blackjack!!! Our president is just too cool. Too bad he can't run for another term. I need to oil the tracks and crank up the Hillary train. Toot, Toot. With nutty tea party leaders like Palin and Bachmann, what could you expect?

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Bizkit 10/16/13 - 11:48 am
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You need to lay off the toot

You need to lay off the toot there Jack. Being cool is about the last skill a president needs. But that comment tells a lot about your maturity and political sophistication. Right tbledsoe is a liberal and you are an independent. Yep I believe that.

Bizkit
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Bizkit 10/16/13 - 11:56 am
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Hillary isn't cool enough to

Hillary isn't cool enough to run for president. You have to admit that Jack.

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nofanofobama 10/16/13 - 11:59 am
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too cool...great

too cool...great qualifications for prez...how about integrity, how about honesty, how about love of country..jack your assumption who composes the tea party are so far off the mark..we are tax payers, everyday people who raise our kids, love our spouses and go to work...unlike those whom MR COOL OBUMLER appeals to.

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Bizkit 10/16/13 - 12:18 pm
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Apparently some 66% of

Apparently some 66% of Americans want both tax hikes and spending cuts. So Obama already has his higher taxes-in fact govt taxes and revenues are higher now than ever. So spending cuts is next, and we all know Obama will just conveniently ignore the will of the masses when they disagree with spending cuts. His budget is already set to increase our debt and still likely precipitate a decline in our ratings. President Obama insists on the excessive spending which Fitch and other rating agencies worn will lower our rating-it isn't just the default issue it's the spending silly. Apparently the tea party is actually trying to save us from Obama and his spending which will lower our credit rating. Dems make the tea party out as the villains but it is their excessive spending that will lower our credit rating. Always the blame game-all the while the real culprit walks just like Dodd and Frank walked.

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dichotomy 10/16/13 - 12:29 pm
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"trying to undo a law that

"trying to undo a law that has already been passed."

Yes, it has been passed.....but then the Emperor Obama ILLEGALLY, without the consent of the Congress, changed the law that was passed and exempted his supporters and contributors. The Dictator Obama also exempted the Congress WHICH WAS SPECIFICALLY SPELLED OUT in the law that this law would apply to him. In other words, THERE IS NO LEGAL LAW,AS WAS PASSED BY CONGRESS AND SIGNED BY THE PRESIDENT. Dictator Obama has nulled and voided the law that was passed by Congress. That law no longer exists. OBAMBA should be impeached for violating his oath of office to enforce the law as passed and signed.....along with his refusal to enforce federal immigration laws.

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Sweet son 10/16/13 - 01:40 pm
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Have to admit that I scrolled down and didn't read any comments.

But when I saw the title of the letter I knew there would be many. Although I didn't read the comments I believe that most of them were supportive of Mr. Caudle's letter and that they covered all of the angles of our failing nation!

Per the title, "Founders saw this coming" it is an example of the history of all empires. They rise and then the fall. We in the USA are over the top and on the fall side!

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Gary Ross 10/16/13 - 02:01 pm
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Sooner or later...

Sooner or later this great country will default. It's inevitable with the way we're heading. Remember, this is a federal debt. A government debt. The majority of it's citizens have been paying their taxes. The government has increasingly been treating it's citizens as if we were the enemy. It's time we stand up and back Congress for standing up for us. Let the federal government default! Send a loud and clear message that they cannot spend more than they bring in, by law!

OJP
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OJP 10/16/13 - 02:14 pm
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@dichotomy

The Supreme Court has held that the executive can adjust implementation as needed (as long as it isn't done to avert implementation altogether).

So, no, the delay was not illegal. It was legal and constitutional.

But don't let that fact get in the way of calling the President a dictator and whatnot.

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KSL 10/16/13 - 02:38 pm
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OJP

Are you justifying the failure to delay the individual mandate for individuals, but allowing delays for big business and rule changes for Congress? You progressives are forever accusing Republicans of not looking out for middle class and the poor. It seems to be obvious that Obama is the one that accusation fits the best at this point. He knows Obamacare has already started to be a jobs killer and will continue. Obama and the Democrats don't care.

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Humble Angela 10/16/13 - 02:40 pm
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"as long as it isn't done to
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"as long as it isn't done to avert implementation altogether"

So you agree that Obama broke the law by exempting himself? You agree he violated the law by refusing to prosecute so called dreamers? Those were both actions he took to avert the law.

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GACopprhed 10/16/13 - 02:41 pm
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The Senate has announced a
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The Senate has announced a BIpartisan agreement to end the shutdown and extend the debt limit. That's good news. The best news is that, now, some Republicans are calling for "primarying" Tea Party candidates. That is the best news that this country could receive. It's about time that people who are willing to GOVERN are beginning to want to take their party back from extremists.

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Humble Angela 10/16/13 - 02:52 pm
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In what world is belief in
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In what world is belief in lower taxes, limited government, and following the constitution considered "extreme?"

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Bizkit 10/16/13 - 02:58 pm
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Well I was just reading an

Well I was just reading an article on how the Democratic party has changed since Clinton. Obama captured more northern, urban, independents, liberals both Dem and Rep and progressives. Clinton was a fairly moderate to conservative president like the Defense of Marriage Act. Seems now progressives , independents, and liberals are uniting for some common goals-mainly social goals. The country in definitely becoming more "liberal" socially which I think is a good thing as far as freedom goes. But polls indicate Americans are still economically conservative, and prefer less intrusive govt=because we like freedom. Despite Obama's popularity people don't like the ACA, they don't like all the excessive spending. This isn't just Rep but all parties don't like the ACA and excessive spending-well over half the population so it has to be some Dems in there. So there is a disconnect between his popularity personally and popularity of policy.

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Bizkit 10/16/13 - 04:39 pm
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Hopefully the debt crisis

Hopefully the debt crisis deadline will be avoided. Now the threat of economic chaos is over the President can now make good on his agreement to meet and work with Rep on reforms. How many of you believe he was telling the truth and how many think he will ever meet with Rep to deal with spending, or entitlement programs? Remember he is a bona fide liar in almost every word out of his mouth-or at least he will prove he is a liar when he continues to ignore Rep.

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chascushman 10/16/13 - 05:18 pm
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"Compromise is the best
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"Compromise is the best route. Instead of kicking the can down the road, pick up the can and hit tom cruz on the head"
jack, you do not have a clue. They just kicked the can down the road. They are putting off what will hit us one day. The printing of money, 85 billion month, will catch up with us soon. I sure you will wish we could kick it down even further but it won't work.

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carcraft 10/16/13 - 05:39 pm
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"The Senate has announced a

"The Senate has announced a BIpartisan agreement to end the shutdown and extend the debt limit. That's good news. The best news is that, now, some Republicans are calling for "primarying" Tea Party candidates. That is the best news that this country could receive. It's about time that people who are willing to GOVERN.." yes in deed GaCopperhed, to bad Obama doesn't know how to govern, he acts like a little child throwing a temper tantrum. Closing to WWII memorial for vets yet opening the mall for illegal aliens, throwing people out of their homes on leased Government property, and working as hard as he can to make it hurt the poor people...If that is leadership then I am thank full for the Republicans brand of leadership!!!!

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carcraft 10/16/13 - 05:42 pm
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If you are worried about the

If you are worried about the $5 billion the shut down cost you must really be upset with the $600 million to a Canadian company for the health care web site that doesn't work...Or the billions for the "green energy projects" that did nothing but get Obama's rich friends richer!! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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jack234 10/16/13 - 05:42 pm
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I am just so proud of our

I am just so proud of our wonderful president. He drew a red line at the oval office door and refused to let the tea party come in for tea.
And on the other red line, he decided to confer with the Republicans after they said they were left out. Then, he worked around that red line without the loss of any life to achieve the same thing. This president is just amazing and we will be eternally grateful to such a great cool man. The 999 man wasn't too cool but more acceptable. (Cain) Speaking as a strong independent.

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harley_52 10/16/13 - 05:45 pm
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There Will Come A Time....

....and it won't be long from now, that the general public realizes what a horrible disservice has been done to them by the democrats and by their accomplices in the "Press."

When that happens, the democrat party will be deserted by the public and Republicans will run the government for a decade, or two.

People are still believing the lies they've been told, but they are just beginning to find out what Obamacare will mean to them personally.

It ain't gonna be pretty.

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chascushman 10/16/13 - 06:35 pm
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"I am just so proud of our
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"I am just so proud of our wonderful president."
jack, it has become very obvious that you are not an independent so please do not insult we independents by pretending to be one.

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KSL 10/16/13 - 07:17 pm
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carcraft

I am certain you have noticed how the other side never comments about the screw ups made by this administration, like the 3 plus years they had to get the website proofed out.

carcraft
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carcraft 10/16/13 - 07:25 pm
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I would like to see the so

I would like to see the so cool Obama sign on to his own health care web site ..LOL

KSL
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KSL 10/16/13 - 07:43 pm
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Biz

I might join that 66% if the people receiving the various government subsidies would have the pay tax on the imputed value of their subsidies. It doesn't seem fair they don't have to have a dog in the fight when it comes to taxes.

After all, we are trying to keep alive this nation, because when the piper needs to be paid, the leeches will be the first to suffer, unless, of course, their representation has disarmed the law abiding citizens who then will not be able to protect themselves from the wolves at the door.

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