Slant skews shutdown issue

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As I watch and read the news, the slant always amazes me. “The Republicans are dead-set on shutting down the government” is the message we hear. Is it accurate, or would it be more accurate to say that those most isolated from the electorate – the Senate and president, who are Democratic – continue to take a course to shut down the government by refusing to work with those closest to the people?

Wouldn’t it be more accurate for headlines to read “Senate, Democrats refuse to pass a continuing resolution and votes to shut down government” or “President refuses to negotiate and shuts down government”? The Founding Fathers set up checks and balances in the government by providing longer terms for senators and the president, fearing the masses going off on a fad or tangent detrimental to the country. The House and its members’ shorter terms make it more responsive to the masses. But in the past decade, it has been the supposed checks on the masses that have strayed from the path of normalcy and gone off on tangents.

The Fourth Estate has chosen sides with those going off on tangents, and derides those who would maintain a responsible course. As a result, we see labels that are applied to really bad people who threaten the whole world being applied to those who peacefully ask only for sanity, and for government to live within its means.

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jkline
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jkline 10/02/13 - 01:20 am
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Very Well Said

Very well said, Mr Rezner. Thank you for this letter.

GACopprhed
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GACopprhed 10/02/13 - 01:33 am
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The MOST accurate headline
Unpublished

The MOST accurate headline would be " Republicans who have failed to gain the Presidency, and only gained majority in the House via Gerrymandering, pitch temper tantrum like small children, attempting to subvert the will of the American People." You can't win, you WON'T win. America sees through you, Republicans, and you will continue to fail as long as you give in to the fanatical, insane Tea party.

GACopprhed
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GACopprhed 10/02/13 - 02:47 am
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To back up my earlier
Unpublished

To back up my earlier statement, this is the proof that Republicans steal their house seats via Gerrymandering. This is quoted from Politifact, a non-partisan fact checking site:
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2013/feb/19/steny-hoy...
If the House Representatives were elected by total popular vote, Democrats would be in power. Republicans have not had a majority of the popular vote for years and years. The House Republicans do NOT represent the majority, or do they have a "mandate" to rescind the ACA.
Also it was a stroke of genius to fund the sign-up program for the ACA by a grant, instead of using government funding. Republicans thwarted again. The more I watch the Republicans whining and throwing their little temper tantrums, the more I see the Road-Runner(Obama) and Wile E Coyote(Tea-Party/Republicans). Republicans, you are just plain wrong, misguided and misled by the LYING Tea-Party, and the House non-leadership.

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carcraft 10/02/13 - 05:25 am
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LOL, once again we selected

LOL, once again we selected facts! The district that strertchs from Aryans to Savannah was gerrymandered by who? Why yes it was that rabid, tea patter right wing extremist we all know as (drum roll please) CHARLES WALKER. BWAHAHAHAHA. If Republicans didn't win elections they couldn't gerrymander like Democrats would! Get a grip ...

nofanofobama
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nofanofobama 10/02/13 - 05:29 am
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gerrymandering has been

gerrymandering has been around for over 200 years.....the prez who has no constitutional powers to change laws..does repeatedly...especially obamacare..delays and exceptions etc..by fiat...yet the congress, the house does so by trying to pass law [delays for the individualsie...the little guys] under constitutional powers who are protrayed as the obsructionist.who is breaking the law?..the country under ried and obumler have not had a budget in 5years again mandated by the constitution..yet we have reid who says the conversation is over a 2-bit senator from a state know only for economics in gambling and cat houses holding and tying up all legislation sent from the house...

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DanK 10/02/13 - 05:33 am
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The slant

"Wouldn’t it be more accurate for headlines to read “Senate, Democrats refuse to pass a continuing resolution and votes to shut down government” or “President refuses to negotiate and shuts down government”?"

Well, no it wouldn't be more accurate to say that, because it is not true.

One faction of one party, representing a small fraction of Americans, in one house of Congress, one branch of government, has attempted to blackmail the federal government, and in so doing, have put hundreds of thousands of Americans out of work, blocked care for the ill, children and the elderly, and damaged the economy even further than they already had.

People are sick and tired of these extremists and their obsession with programs that were passed into law and validated by the Supreme Court. They will take the blame for this travesty and deserve to be turned out of office.

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Riverman1 10/02/13 - 05:36 am
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What If....

What if a bill somehow got past Congress and the President that we absolutely knew would ruin the country? Maybe the Democratic voters had demanded, every government piece of property be sold and everybody be given a million dollars or something and that had ended up law. Would it be proper for the House not to fund the measure? It appears to me we are very close to that situation with Obamacare with businesses laying off people right and left. House, do your duty.

Riverman1
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Riverman1 10/02/13 - 05:38 am
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AKA....

"One faction of one party, representing a small fraction of Americans, in one house of Congress, one branch of government..."

That's also known at the House of Representatives majority. One of the three branches of government. The one given the power to fund or not fund.

DanK
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DanK 10/02/13 - 05:41 am
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The payoff

Hundreds of thousands of people put out of work. Others forced to work for no pay.

You know who is still receiving their paychecks? Yep, the congress critters and the president. Some of them (Democrats) have said they will donate their checks to charities or put them in escrow. Do you think the Georgia delegation will do that?

Two years ago, the Democrats in the Senate passed a bill that would eliminate pay for congress in times of federal shutdown. They sent it to the Republican controlled House. We know what happened to it there. The bill was reintroduced. Want to take bets on what happens this time around?

Who elected these creatures? Well, we know the answer to that as well.

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Bodhisattva 10/02/13 - 05:46 am
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Charles Walker was in prison

Charles Walker was in prison in 2010 when the last census was taken and district lines were drawn. I don't think they let prisoners have anything to do with it. We'll see in 2020 when Nathan goes down when they reopen his ethics case and nail him for having records destroyed.

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Truth Matters 10/02/13 - 05:47 am
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Two NFL teams that our family

Two NFL teams that our family cheers for lost on Sunday. Not to worry though. They can take a lesson from the House GOP and hold a gun to the head of the commissioner and demand that he negate those scores and let them be declared the winner of their respective games. Then the Falcons and Cowboys can act like they won the games even though they didn't. Next, they can diss the other teams for not agreeing to acknowledge them as winners even though everyone knows they are not.

And soon all will know they are the nuts they sound like.

DanK
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DanK 10/02/13 - 05:48 am
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AKA

No, actually, it is one faction of the Republican party -- the extremists who have bludgeoned the rest of the party into accepting their extremist politics. These extremists represent only a small fraction of Americans. Most Americans are fed up with them.

carcraft
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carcraft 10/02/13 - 05:54 am
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OK Bod, I stand corrected,

OK Bod, I stand corrected, but I do remember Walker gerrymandering a district for Champ Walker that stretched from Athens to Savannah!

Truth Matters
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Truth Matters 10/02/13 - 06:01 am
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There is nothing to do now

There is nothing to do now but wait until "speaker" Cruz tells Boehner and the House GOP WH t to do.

The GOP wouldn't listen to their senior, more experienced party leaders and now they want the Dems to help them get out of this mess. As our parents taught us, "you made the mess, now clean it up."

There is not a "binkie" big enough to pacify the GOP. No need to try anymore because you will only reward bad behavior of children having a temper tantrum.

Please, let them fall out and hold their breath until.....

carcraft
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carcraft 10/02/13 - 06:01 am
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Dank, please explain why it

Dank, please explain why it is OK to subsidize Congress to the tune of 75% of thier health care costs (many of these people make well over $100,000.00/year), issue waivers to unions, big business, etc. but the tax payer actually funding this entitlement can't catch a break! Please don't tell it is the law of the land, the immigration laws are also the law of the land but handily ignored by Obama and Holder!

Truth Matters
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Truth Matters 10/02/13 - 06:19 am
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Yes, both parties use

Yes, both parties use gerrymandering to achieve districts to their advantage. But that is where the false equivalency ends. It is some members of the GOP on the record after the 2010 election saying that they were going to DC to shut the gov't down. It was members of the GOP who emerged from a closed door meeting on Saturday simply giddy after voting to send another "ransom demand" to the Senate.

These people are being used as pawns by Ted Cruz for his 2016 run for president. Sad.

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ymnbde 10/02/13 - 06:22 am
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perhaps we could update President Eisenhower

In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the (media education socialist bureaucracy) complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist."
we could call it the "govedumediament"
it's here, packed with useful O'diots, and it's why we have Obama care
a very good letter, Mr. Rezner
i do hope the gacopperhead fellow calms down a bit... it's such a pretty morning
these are just a few of his words so far
"failed Gerrymandering pitch temper tantrum like small children subvert the will of the American People fanatical, insane steal whining and throwing their little temper tantrums wrong, misguided and misled by the LYING Tea-Party"
i wonder if he can stomp his feet and type at the same time?

nofanofobama
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nofanofobama 10/02/13 - 06:58 am
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gacoop--if congress was

gacoop--if congress was elected by counties there would be very few dims..

Riverman1
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Riverman1 10/02/13 - 07:06 am
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DanK, like I said, the House

DanK, like I said, the House majority. Ya know, the ones who voted to defund Obamacare. You call them fringe and I call Obama fringie as my grandmother's lampshade and he's in the White House.

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deestafford 10/02/13 - 07:33 am
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For those who are old enough to have been around during the

shutdown when Clinton was president and the House and Senate were controlled by the Republicans, we remember that the Republicans in those two branches of the government were blamed by the media. It ran headlines which said, "Republicans Shutdown the Country".

There are also short memories on what went on at that time. The White House was within 24 hours of agreeing with the the Republicans and signing the proposed bills when the Senate led by the RHINO Bob Dole caved in and left the House high and dry.

Additionally, the Republicans gained congressional and senate seats in the next election not suffering a political loss as is being portrayed by today's media.

Right now we are suffering under a president who violates the Constitution that he has said many times he doesn't agree with and a media willing to be his lap dog rather than a watch dog.

nofanofobama
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nofanofobama 10/02/13 - 07:34 am
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name one truth about

name one truth about obamacare that actually materlized..also the house is called the people house..it has a new election every 2 years..its the closes to the people..and i refuse to be labeled as an extremist just because the obamacare law sucks and is a complete lie ....the most selfish people are those who want it all now..regardless of the debt we pass onto our kids etc...

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nocnoc 10/02/13 - 07:38 am
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GACopprhed - may I remind you of real gerrymandering

In 1991 Cynthia McKinney was given a seat on the committee responsible for redrawing Georgia’s congressional districts, many of which then became gerrymandered to guarantee the election of African Americans.

Then in 1992 McKinney ran and won in one of those gerrymandered districts -- the 11th -- which she had helped design.

In 1995 the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that the 11th District was an unconstitutional gerrymander because its boundaries had been drawn exclusively on the basis of race.
.....

So let me understand your point.
UNPROVEN Republican Gerrymandering is bad.

But the Socialists, liberals and Democrats never use it.

BTW: An I am not sure....
but weren't the congressional district lines redrawn under Obama's watch and / or at the least APPROVED by the DOJ under Eric Holder
who is an Obama Appointee?

nofanofobama
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nofanofobama 10/02/13 - 07:46 am
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is there not a clause about

is there not a clause about equal protection under the law?? so with a universal law where congress, all buissness and all individuals fall under jursidiction as passed ...how can there be LEGAL exemptions, and parts of the law lifted by a benevolent dictator just because you are of the right poltical persusian.[donor]. or doesnt that matter to you lefties..as long as you get yours now..

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t3bledsoe 10/02/13 - 07:52 am
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"“The Republicans are dead-set on shutting down the government” is the message we hear"

If the writer had only stopped here! Democrats and Republicans ARE JUST fooling themselves if we the voters don't blame BOTH sides!

nocnoc
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nocnoc 10/02/13 - 07:58 am
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Regarding the NEWS SPEAK QUOTE

OBAMA-CARE IS LAW.

Need I remind the O-Zomie people who have been taught to recite this quote, how many LAWS to this day are KNEE-JERK Laws. Passed to get votes but are as stupid as dirt to have on the books and recanted quietly later?

Need I remind the O-Zomie people who have been taught to recite this quote, that we have had LAWS like Prohibition, Slavery, Price fixing, Jim Crow etc....... have been repealed because they were found UN-Constitutional?

If Obama-Care is a TAX, as the US Supreme Court called it, Congress repeals or changes the tax code every year. The President CANNOT exempt groups from the Tax Code. It is NOT in his power to pick and chose who pays what Federal Taxes.

If Obama-care is a LAW, as too many of the Unthinking O-Zomies recite in the MEDIA. Then again The President CANNOT legally pick and chose who has to obey the law.

In fact deliberately failing to follow the US Constitution "EQUAL JUSTICE Clause " is an breech of Office Oath and LEGALLY
a Impeachable Offense under the US Constitution.

So do the O-Zomies really want to stand behind the
PER-PROGRAMMED NEWS SPEAK?

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Bizkit 10/02/13 - 08:00 am
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So the Senate set this stage

So the Senate set this stage with pass a clean bill or else (gee that sounds like bullying), and they are following up on else with refusing numerous attempts for conference committees and the Senate refuses (The senate finally passes a budget after 4 years and refuses to conference). The Rep in the House then tried three times to keep part of the govt running and the senate refuses (right how can you blame Rep for a govt shutdown if they keep part running) Yeah it's plain to see Rep are at fault. Good golly. What a shame. The president can't cherry pick which parts of a law passed by Congress-it would be like he could go through all the bills and uphold the Dem parts and refuse any Rep parts..

t3bledsoe
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t3bledsoe 10/02/13 - 07:58 am
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"more accurate to say that those most isolated from the electorate – the Senate and president, who are Democratic – continue to take a course to shut down the government by refusing to work with those closest to the people?"

YES & NO! Yes, The House Members acknowledge that Obamacare is not popular amoung the voters, and perhaps this is where the arguement should end! No, The House Members DON'T have the authority to try and make a budget deal by trying to "hand-cuff" The Senate and The President!

nocnoc
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nocnoc 10/02/13 - 08:01 am
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take Obama-care to Federal Court

Under the US Constitution "Equal Justice clause".

Any 1 person fined or penalized is all it takes to start a case.

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KSL 10/02/13 - 08:02 am
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nocnoc

I know you are t minus and counting the days, but please promise you won't quit posting.

t3bledsoe
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t3bledsoe 10/02/13 - 08:02 am
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"Wouldn’t it be more accurate for headlines to read “Senate, Democrats refuse to pass a continuing resolution and votes to shut down government” or “President refuses to negotiate and shuts down government”?"

The President and The Senate Democrats HAVE THE RIGHT to fight this treat to defund Obamacare! Though unpopular, IT IS THE LAW!!

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