Weapons of choice illogical

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“War is cruelty ... .” Those words were in a letter from Union Gen. William Tecumseh Sherman to the mayor and councilmen of Atlanta during the siege of Atlanta in 1864. He also said in a speech to the 1879 graduating class of Michigan Military Academy that “War is hell.”

As much as it pains me to say this, I agree with him. I guess that’s why we have rules – if the warring country’s leaders signed the necessary treaties.

Don’t misunderstand – using poisonous gas on any human being at any time is horrendous. Killing children at any time for any reason with any weapon is horrendous. It seems to be that in war it is OK if the goal is to destroy property as well as people, but we have to draw a line when the goal is to kill people and not destroy property.

I just have a problem getting my mind around how it’s OK to kill one way but not another when so-called collateral damage is often great no matter the weapon. Is it OK to carpet-bomb cities to rubble (the Allies did a lot of that in World War II), but not OK to gas the same people and leave buildings standing? Dead is dead! Is it OK to use fuel/air explosives to incinerate people, guilty or not, and everything around them, but a no-no to kill those same people with a gas that poisons rather than ignites? Napalm is fine, but gas is not? Is it OK to take out a bad guy in a foreign country with a missile even if a few children are killed, but not OK to gas the guy?

According to the United Nations, more than 100,000 have been killed in Syria since the beginning of its civil war. Gas-death estimates from other sources vary between 650 and 1,600 people. Horrendous? Yes! Reason to commit America’s wealth and blood? No!

There are dozens of reasons for America not to become more involved in Syria, but even the basic premise – poison gas – seems illogical to me!

Richard Greene

Appling

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Gary Ross
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Gary Ross 09/13/13 - 08:08 am
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Good point, Richard! Makes no sence...

What I don't understand is why obama has been so focused on stopping the killing of children with poison gas in Syria, while he gives the green light to kill unborn American children with poisons. Whose side is he on?

Another question is why Russia and America are deciding the fate of Syria. If this happened in a high school somewhere in America it would be considerd bullying.

grouse
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grouse 09/13/13 - 08:35 am
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Property has always been
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Property has always been valued more than individuals. Whenever I had discussions about Bush's invading of Iraq on false pretenses, conservatives would invariably make the excuse that Saddam was a bad man who killed hundreds or thousands of his own people, so the invasion was justified anyway. It's strange how moral outrage (only 650 to 1,650 people) is tempered by who is occupying the White House, especially since America's "wealth and blood" has yet to be spent in Syria...unlike Iraq. The hypocrisy is astounding.

t3bledsoe
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t3bledsoe 09/13/13 - 08:53 am
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Quote from LTE

"Is it OK to carpet-bomb cities to rubble (the Allies did a lot of that in World War II), but not OK to gas the same people and leave buildings standing? Dead is dead! Is it OK to use fuel/air explosives to incinerate people, guilty or not, and everything around them, but a no-no to kill those same people with a gas that poisons rather than ignites"

First: THIS IS a great LTE!!

Second: This LTE seems to point out that gassing is no more of a WMD than carpet bombing or napalum. Perhaps WAR itself is the ultimate WMD!

t3bledsoe
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t3bledsoe 09/13/13 - 08:59 am
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Speaking of war

It is diffently time for Obama to look into the mirror and realize he is way over his head in foriegn relations!! I believe he should ask the living former presidents to come to the White House for a serious talk in what to do next!! I don't believe the former presidents would allow Russis to dictate policy as they are currently. He should view these as putting ALL of his resorces together to move forward in a united front!!

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deestafford 09/13/13 - 09:37 am
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Excellent letter on a question that has perplexed man

fan centuries. Very good comments and it seems that even t3 is hitting on some good common sense every once in awhile.

When one studies the history of warfare one sees that discussions like this have gone on for centuries each time some new weapon or weapon system is invented.

Unfortunately wars are the normal state of history compared to times of peace. Someone will always want what someone else has or someone feels slighted or insulted and they must take action. Sadly, this is human nature no matter how much we want to abhor it.

The best thing I can say is if you decide to go to war, you have to do it all out and get it over as quickly as possible. By doing that you save lives on your side. Leaders cannot [filtered word]-foot around when war is concerned.

Great philosophical discussion which will not solve anything other than making us think and hopefully understand how inhumane man has been and will continue to be no matter how "advanced" we become.

Darby
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Darby 09/13/13 - 03:32 pm
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bledsoe - What happened...?

Has OzBama finally demonstrated his incompetence to the point where even you are moved to complain?

t3bledsoe
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t3bledsoe 09/13/13 - 04:57 pm
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Darby @ 3:32

I have come ALL THE WAY to the conservative side, BUT Obama needs help very badly!!

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dahreese 09/13/13 - 06:17 pm
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"'Weak'? Bumbling'? I think
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"'Weak'? Bumbling'? I think more than half of America, and a greater percent of 'the rest of the world' will see this as a masterful stroke.

Think about it (not holding my breath here)...he did what needed doing rattling the sabers, played the cons gambit back on themselves causing Congress to (gasp) go on record, gave Putin a face-saving out, showed the willingness to engage....What the heck more do you people want?

We're not at war (yet) and the usual suspects are saying, 'yeah, but he didn't do it right'. Sheesh!"

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KSL 09/13/13 - 06:37 pm
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Obama is totally inept.

Obama is totally inept.

Gage Creed
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Gage Creed 09/13/13 - 09:19 pm
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KSL.. you are 110% correct...

KSL.. you are 110% correct... yet Obama stands a head and shoulders above his minions... that's what is truly sad.

Darby
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Darby 09/13/13 - 10:40 pm
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OzBama, the Great and Powerful...

has given Putin and Russia something they lost with the crumbling of the old Soviet Union.

Credibility, respect and real influence in the Middle East.

Thanks, Barry, for nothing!

There is absolutely no way that anything good can possibly come out of this mess.

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Young Fred 09/14/13 - 01:41 am
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dahreese@6:17

Now that comment is an example of true loyalty!

Even the Keystone cops got their man on occasion. But most wouldn't claim they were "masterful". I think most would realize even bumbling incompetents can luck out on occasion.

But Ya, that's the ticket, Obama planned it that way. Yep, when he hired Curly (John Kerry) to supplement Moe and Larry, it was all part of his "masterful" plan!

I'm just gushing with gratitude at his masterfulness!

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