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Someone spoke, and hundreds of people, including 426 children, died from a chemical weapon. President Obama and the world reacted in shock and horror!

The one who spoke: Bashar Assad, the dictator of Syria. The dead from chemical attack were Syrians, adding hundreds to the 100,000 already dead in the two-year civil war. The top diplomat of the United States put it this way: “President Obama believes there must be accountability for those who would use the world’s most heinous weapons against the world’s most vulnerable people.”

Forty years ago, seven black-robed men spoke. Hundreds, then thousands, then millions died – all children. Some died from chemical attack, some by dismemberment and the smallest removed from their temporary abode by a vacuum. These who were slaughtered are indeed the world’s most vulnerable people.

These are the as-yet unborn – children slaughtered by their compliant mothers, the greed of abortionists and the aid of the federal government! A total of 55 million unborn babies have been slaughtered since the seven black-robed men spoke, almost 4,000 each day since that black day in 1973.

There is no burial ceremony for these unborn children as there was for those killed in Syria. There are no graves with markers. That is verboten – decreed by judges at the behest of the perverted mind-set of those advocating slaughter of unborn children. Instead, they are abandoned to the trash bin or the sewer!

As this is written, Secretary of State John Kerry has waxed eloquent over the shrouded bodies of Syrian children. Obama is dithering over conducting an illegal war to “exact retribution” against Assad to save face after his red-line threats.

There will be no retribution for the slaughter of the as-yet-unborn – at least not in this life!

Charlotte Baker

Aiken, S.C.

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Topsy Krets
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Topsy Krets 09/06/13 - 10:41 am
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Humble and the rest of the
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Humble and the rest of the lifers, say Roe vs .Wade is overturned. Answer these questions with feasible and enactable answers:

1. Who is going to provide for these children? The pregnant women didn't want them in the first place, and forcing a woman to have a pregnancy she doesn't want does not suddenly make her into the bastion of motherhood. If she didn't want the pregnancy in the first place, there is no way to make her provide properly for the subsequent child.

2. You're going to bring up adoption next- there are currently 500,000 children in the incredibly stretched thin foster care system. Who is going to pay to provide for them? Until those half a million children find loving homes, you have no business suggesting taking resources away from already existing children.

3. What will you do to prevent the psychological and emotional damage done to children born to mothers who didn't want them in the first place?

4. How are you going to prevent the horrors of do-it-yourself and backalley abortions, which will occur?

5. What are you going to do about the increase in child abuse that is evident in countries where abortion is illegal?

6.How many unwanted children have you adopted?

7.How much of your time do you contribute to foster children?

8.Have you voted in favor of welfare, food stamps, and health care reform?

9.How are you providing for women who would have abortions for financial reasons?

10.Are you helping to provide birth control to low income women?

Beside the fact that you simply can not force someone to be pregnant against her will, until you have sound answers for the above questions then safe and legal abortion is absolutely necessary.

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 09/06/13 - 10:41 am
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Owning a gun does not hurt
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Owning a gun does not hurt someone.....If a crime is committed with a gun, I fully expect them to be prosecuted. Where's the hypocrisy?

Topsy Krets
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Topsy Krets 09/06/13 - 10:42 am
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"What on earth have I said
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"What on earth have I said the opposite on regarding gun control?"

You say stuff all the time about how we'll never stop criminals from getting guns so why try. Same applies here. Women WILL seek abortions whether they are criminalized or not. You need to research the pro-Roe days.

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Humble Angela 09/06/13 - 10:44 am
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I will address a few of your
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I will address a few of your comments.

Several of your questions are assuming that the responsibility of someones children lie on someone other than the parents. They don't.

Also...as for the horrors of do it yourself abortion. If you are going to kill a baby, you deserve all the horror you bring upon yourself.

Topsy Krets
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Topsy Krets 09/06/13 - 10:45 am
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"Several of your questions
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"Several of your questions are assuming that the responsibility of someones children lie on someone other than the parents. They don't."

So you want people to have kids they can't take care of with no help? Be prepared for more starving kids. Be prepared for more Caylee Anthony's to be killed.

GodisSoGood
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GodisSoGood 09/06/13 - 10:45 am
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The debate continues

The debate continues, and will continue until judgment day comes. Woe be to those who condone the taking of an innocent life!

Topsy Krets
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Topsy Krets 09/06/13 - 10:47 am
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"If you are going to kill a
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"If you are going to kill a baby, you deserve all the horror you bring upon yourself."

Most abortions are performed in the first 3 months when the "baby" is a zygote that doesn't even look human. Calling it a "baby" is a good emotional ploy but for anyone who knows biology they know that's not the case.

Topsy Krets
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Topsy Krets 09/06/13 - 10:48 am
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Republicans care about
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Republicans care about "babies" only before they're born. Once the little bundle of joy is born into a family with insufficient resources the kid and its mother are called nasty names (welfare queens, etc.) by the very same people who took the mom's right to choose away. The cost to raise a single kid to age 17 is about $250,000. Raising a well-adjusted child also requires a couple of parents with patience and good judgement.

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allhans 09/06/13 - 10:58 am
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I think someone was pointing

I think someone was pointing out that Obama, who believes in the killing of our unborn, has so much sympathy for those killed by our enemies. The moral authority, you know. Who gets to make this decision.
Does he care about children or don't he.. When is it EVER okay to kill them? Which should be saved?
Killing the unborn...The time to prevent unwanted children is BEFORE conception....A person CAN do without....

t3bledsoe
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t3bledsoe 09/06/13 - 11:02 am
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corgimom @ 10:34

"But nobody has the right to tell another person that they CAN"T have an abortion. Ever"

With all due respect, corgimom, if you saw the picture link that HA posted earlier this week, I believe that everybody "WITH A HEART AND SOUL" would no longer agree to ANYTHING but the morning after pill!

t3bledsoe
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t3bledsoe 09/06/13 - 11:07 am
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allhans @ 10:58

"Killing the unborn...The time to prevent unwanted children is BEFORE conception....A person CAN do without...."

Considering that human nature WILL NEVER be "to do without", I still continue to point to the morning after pill for the resultent act!!

t3bledsoe
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t3bledsoe 09/06/13 - 11:15 am
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Congrats HA

You have single-handedly sparked some very meaningful debating!

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 09/06/13 - 11:17 am
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Corgi. Are you telling me
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Corgi. Are you telling me that NO ONE should be able to stop a mother from doing this to her child if she so chooses?

http://clinicquotes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/abort10w5.jpg

Echoes86
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Echoes86 09/06/13 - 11:53 am
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@Humble Angela 09/06/13 - 09:50 am

Just would like to clear up that Plan B does not kill anything. It prevents fertilization from happening. That is not killing, it's prevention. I see no problem with a woman going to get the morning after pill if a condom breaks or something.

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Darby 09/06/13 - 12:19 pm
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"The American Taliban again wishes to force

its religious beliefs on all."

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I looked again. Didn't see that mindset anywhere in the writer's post. Still, I have no doubt that some would prefer the government to intervene in the destruction of unborn children.

And many like to use abortion as a form of delayed birth control.

Others, like myself, would just like to see the government stay out of it on BOTH sides. Teach or not teach morality in the home and Let God sort it out, down the road.

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Note: I was slightly perplexed that Bod was not first in line to beat up on the poster. Normally he's waiting there, ready to ponce on any message with an even slightly religious connotation.

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Fiat_Lux 09/06/13 - 12:40 pm
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Gosh, Corgi

So fetuses don't have souls? Really? How did you discover this?

I mean, this is really big, important news, isn't it. Banner headline kind of stuff.

Uhm, so how did you find out? God tell you He doesn't put souls in fetuses?

Speak up, Corgi, 'cause you sure did grab yourself a revelation somewhere.

Topsy Krets
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Topsy Krets 09/06/13 - 12:44 pm
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I'll readily admit that I'm
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I'll readily admit that I'm pro-choice, yet I understand the line of the pro-life argument, even if I thoroughly disagree with most methods for instituting such a perspective. If more people were just willing to understand the opposite side, it might turn out a whole lot less angry and a whole lot more constructive. But some people here would rather spew hate and talk down to people like they are used gum on the bottom of their shoe.

Here's my solution lifers: If men(and it is mostly men) want to legislate women's reproductive lives, then we women should also get to legislate theirs. When males hit puberty they should all have vasectomies, by law of course. The vasectomy can only be reversed when the man gets married. Think of the abortions this would prevent!

If they want to take Viagra, men should have to produce the woman with whom they want to couple. If she’s menopausal, she won’t get pregnant, so we’ll let them have the prescription if she is agreeable. But if she's fertile and not his wife, then the answer is no. No Viagra for him. Again, think of the abortions this would prevent!

Also, we should have a new law that a man cannot waste his seed, since if a woman's uterus can be legislated, so can his seed. After all, the Bible says he shouldn't waste it, so no more of that self-pleasuring stuff for the males.

Finally, I assume, that anyone who supports these restrictive laws is currently fostering as many children as possible, adopting unwanted children, voting for universal healthcare coverage for children, school funding, free lunch programs, birth control, pregnancy prevention programs, and frequently donating to women and children's shelters, right?

t3bledsoe
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t3bledsoe 09/06/13 - 01:18 pm
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Echoes86 @ 11:53

"Just would like to clear up that Plan B does not kill anything. It prevents fertilization from happening. That is not killing, it's prevention. I see no problem with a woman going to get the morning after pill if a condom breaks or something"

This is what I have been saying!! And even if fertilization does happen, the resultant will only be a very few cells, NOT a viable fetus!!

Fiat_Lux
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Fiat_Lux 09/06/13 - 01:31 pm
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Plan B, as I understand it,

does NOT prevent fertilization but implantation. Biiiiiiig difference.

Once fertilization happens, you have a person as far as any of us knows for sure and certain.

Do a few human cells feel pain? I doubt it. But does that mean those few cells that make up that little piece of humanity have no eternal destiny and may freely be destroyed?

Who in their right mind feels qualified to decide that? It's hard to fathom the level of arrogance such a decision requires.

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Bizkit 09/06/13 - 02:37 pm
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Well people often make the

Well people often make the argument-"legal person". Which the fetus has been treated as a legal person in regard to the murder of pregnant women, and frozen blastocysts are treated as legal persons in in vitro fertilization cases. The fact the fetus is dependent on the mother is no different than a coma or brain dead patient dependent on life support. Tough legal issues. When you can take a single mammalian cell and clone it to produce a "Dolly" you see the genetic potential and life begins with a single cell and is a continuum and descendant from other cells-the whole idea of evolution. It is anti-science to not concede the zygote is a unique human (unique from both parents because a mix of their genetic alleles and also recombinants because of crossover that occurs during meiosis of gametes) but what happens next is up to chance-well except if your Mom doesn't want you then she can legally kill this unique human. Preventing pregnancy is the best strategy but I realize it isn't always effective too.

Fiat_Lux
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Fiat_Lux 09/06/13 - 02:35 pm
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More than tough legal issues, this

is a rock of a moral issue. And some people refuse to accept that it isn't moving our of their way to allow them a guiltless ride on the baby murder express.

Bizkit
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Bizkit 09/06/13 - 02:50 pm
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That's what bother me

That's what bother me Fiat-the lack of remorse and adamant my legal right to kill as "choice". I support physicians being able to perform abortions but not the use of it by society as birth control with no remorse of loss of a unique human. I remember years ago a girlfriend of mines daughter had a friend who was 15-16 and was having an abortion. I was on the ride and she was just poppin' gum like no biggie-let's get the demon spawn out and let me get back to me, me, me. I thought she would be crying and traumatized but heck it was just a slight inconvenience and burden. One of my roommates paid for three abortions from the same gal-I don't know which was the greater idiot-him or her. I thought it would be a tough call and a somber occasion-not party time. It bothers me that young girls see abortion as a form of birth control rather than an alternative because birth control failed. I can't prevent nor make choices for people. I personally choose to be a pacifist conscientiously objecting to war and violence, but I also appreciate our countries often need for violence. Now don't get me wrong I love violence but I have to believe it is wrong, unproductive, and just creates more violence and trouble-so personally I will still maintain non-violence. I see a possible future for population control that abortion maybe a necessity because our failure to deal with foundational issues before it would become a necessity.

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justthefacts 09/06/13 - 02:54 pm
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Bizkit

I understand that the guilt comes later in life for these young people.

Bizkit
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Bizkit 09/06/13 - 03:10 pm
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Fiat I don't know what is

Fiat I don't know what is moral in America anymore? Morals have always been culturally and societally determined but our society has really changed from a mono-moral society with lots of Christian influence since WWII to a poly-moral society with lots of influences from other religions and atheism. I remember people always leaving their doors open and keys in their car-now that is a bait car ploy. Sheez. Family is now passé and a relic from old racist homophobic conservatives. I expect things to get much worse so I do have my own personal armor in the Word. I can't make people feel "guilty" but I guarantee you the Word sure as hell can-did me anyways. That's where I can make a difference too in spreading the Word to those making tough decisions in life. It sure helped me. When you are standing in the storm to deal with an abortion, to kill a person, steal something, do drugs, commit violent acts, etc. the Word can influence your actions. I don't think Christians will ever win the abortion legal battle after so long established-it like trying to take guns away from gun owners. The battle will likely continue on both fronts though.

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Darby 09/06/13 - 03:29 pm
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"......the resultant (sic) will only be a very few

cells, NOT a viable fetus!!"

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Thank you so much for clearing that up, Doctor Bledsoe.

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AutumnLeaves 09/06/13 - 05:00 pm
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Just wanted to clarify

Just wanted to clarify regarding the meaning of D&C. If there are some procedures labelled D&C's that are actually abortions, I did not realize that, but some D&C's are done to remove the afterbirth when there is a stillborn baby in its early stages of development, for instance if it dies at 2 months gestation and doesn't deliver until a month later, when the woman's body is not prepared for childbirth, especially if it is the first labor for that woman, so I hope people don't jump to the conclusion that if someone has had a D&C, they've had an abortion. There are many moral medical reasons to have a D&C.

AutumnLeaves
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AutumnLeaves 09/06/13 - 05:05 pm
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Oh, and Plan B is an

Oh, and Plan B is an abortificant, which is why some pharmacies are morally obligated not to sell it. Simple logic demands: if it is just cells and not a viable fetus, it isn't a baby; then, you wouldn't need to use Plan B. If you need to use Plan B to get rid of it, then it is a baby.

AutumnLeaves
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AutumnLeaves 09/06/13 - 05:08 pm
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About Syria? Bombing Syria

About Syria? Bombing Syria will just make things worse for the whole world. If we bomb them, we are just like them. It is not the solution. I wish I knew what was.

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 09/06/13 - 05:56 pm
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If it's just some cells, why
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If it's just some cells, why not try some Compound W?

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CobaltGeorge 09/06/13 - 07:48 pm
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AL

I can guarantee you one thing, when the first rocket hits, it will be a beginning of a lot more dying than ones by the chemical attack. Mark my word.

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