How's Obamacare so far?

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For the sake of amusement, let’s review how well Obamacare is working with all its initiatives and promises for quality improvement and cost savings in the health-care industry.

Everyone probably has a story like this one or will have one eventually. At midnight Saturday several weeks ago, my son, while cutting a tie-wrap with a pocket knife, delivers a small cut to himself on the fatty part of the hand beneath the thumb (an unsafe act for sure, but not the topic here). With five children and at least a dozen trips to the emergency room in the past 28 years, it was obvious he needed two or three stitches to close the wound. So what happens next?

We go to the nearest hospital emergency room that advertises that we should insist on their facility. Upon our arriving at the emergency room, the admission representative, the nurse and the doctor all question how the injury occurred. After two hours and two attempts to “glue” the small cut closed, my son is discharged.

The next day the wound opens up and we spend the next six days keeping the wound closed with butterfly Band-Aids and tape. A letter is sent with pictures attached to the doctor group administrator about the poor decision and care concerning the wound. There was no response by mail, email or phone from the doctor group administrator or his staff.

We received a bill from the hospital for $1,636.58, and a “doctor” bill for $1,096. The doctor bill is filed to the insurance company under the father’s name and birth date instead of the son’s. The insurance company refused to process the claim until they have an “injury report.” But the doctor’s group refuses to send a corrected claim to the insurance company until they have a claim refusal letter from said insurance company.

Every one is a winner – the hospital, the doctors, the insurance company, companies that sell supplies, politicians who take money from the health care industry, etc, etc. Everyone is a winner – except for the poor sap who had to go to the hospital.

Oh, and did I mention my insurance premiums tripled last January?

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shrimp for breakfast
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shrimp for breakfast 07/30/13 - 03:34 am
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OPT OUT!

Obama is singlehandedly ruining the best health care system in the world.
The House and Senate pass Obamacare and what's the first thing they do? They opt out of it.
Two can play that game. I am opting out of Obamacare.
What our elected representatives don't seem to realize is that WE THE PEOPLE are the government. There are over 300 million people in this country. If enough of us decide we're just going to OPT OUT what are they going to do? .
I refuse to go along with Obamacare and I will pay no fines. I'll go to jail first. I'd get better heath care there anyway.
If enough Americans stand up and say No you can't make me participate in this ridiculous program.

Maybe our elected officials will finally listen.
I have insurance that I'm satisfied with. If it changes I will protest until the cows come home.
I'm starting a movement.
The I will not participate in Obamacare movement. They can't put us all in jail. It's time to make some noise!

Whose with me?

carcraft
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carcraft 07/30/13 - 05:43 am
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OBAMA IS HOPING

Obama is hoping that the low information voters get so "hooked" on Obama care that it becomes like social security and Medicare. Detroit is seeking to shove employees into Obama care to help the cash strapped city and other cash strapped municipalities are looking to follow suite if it works. The ironies, false starts and problems are just incredible. One of the funniest is that the people that work at a phone solicitation service, contracted by the government to sell Obama care and sign people up for Obama care, are all part time employees not eligible for health care through the company...BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA One of the less funny incident is the little girl needing the lung transplant and Sibelius (sounds like a gastrointestinal disease) denied her the lung transplant, and her family had to go to court to keep her alive. Sibelius's chilling words "some people live, some people die" That is a bureaucrat (not a doctor) making a medical decision and she didn't even understand the laws, regulations and medical technology available! Every body that laughed at Palin and her death panels owes her an apology!

charles6780
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charles6780 07/30/13 - 07:28 am
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Obama Care

The name in itself is an oxymoron. As the writer stated my premiums have increased by 35%, and I am expecting more. Unlike our president has pontificated, I have not received any rebate from my healthcare company. Like Shrimp for Breakfast, I wish that the American people would unite against this ridiculous legislation; but the key is for all to get on the same page. This bill (which they had to pass in order to know what is in it) was ill conceived as we are now seeing. A better approach would have been to allow the insurance companies to cross state lines, thus ensuring more competition (driving down rates) and tort reform. Obama Care is a train wreck.

Truth Matters
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Truth Matters 07/30/13 - 07:32 am
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ACA

My favorite Ronald Reagan quote: Everyone who is for abortion has already been born.
My favorite anti-ACA reality check: Everyone who is against ACA already has health care.

And a majority of them are in the US CONGRESS and we pay for it. I guess their healthcare program is ONE government program that does work.

Go figure!

Truth Matters
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Truth Matters 07/30/13 - 07:35 am
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The name

The name is the AFFORDABLE CARE ACT. Republicans dubbed it Obamacare to remind haters why they should hate this law that was patterned after, are you ready......Romneycare.

Gary Ross
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Gary Ross 07/30/13 - 08:00 am
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Can't really blame Obama...

We educated common sense folks all know by now that Obama's primary mission is to cripple this country in every way he can. If anyone is to blame, its Congress for letting him get away with all this crap!

chascushman
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chascushman 07/30/13 - 08:20 am
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"The name is the AFFORDABLE
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"The name is the AFFORDABLE CARE ACT. Republicans dubbed it Obamacare to remind haters why they should hate this law "
TM, it was named correctly. Obamacare is helping destroy the best health system in the world just as the lying, racist, communist in the WH is destroying the greatest country in history.

soldout
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soldout 07/30/13 - 08:22 am
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alternative care

My advice is to get educated on alternative care of all types. NAET, EFT etc which are cheaper and actually cure things instead of cover them up with a drug. We will always need some doctors but when you cut that need by 80% by using alternative methods and take care of yourself prices will drop for those doctors and drugs that may be needed. This isn't a problem with no answer and the answer is fairly easy. Cut the demand and the supply gets much cheaper. No one cares about your health more than you and learning to treat yourself is quick and easy. God wants you well and didn't plan on you spending a fortune to do it.

nofanofobama
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nofanofobama 07/30/13 - 08:23 am
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according to the CBO it

according to the CBO it barley puts a dent if any of the uninsured...it just screws it up for the rest of us who pay foe everything...thanks to the low information obumler is wonderful voters...i

chascushman
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chascushman 07/30/13 - 08:26 am
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" We educated common sense
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" We educated common sense folks all know by now that Obama's primary mission is to cripple this country in every way he can."
Mr. Ross, I agree whole heartily with that statement but the following letter sums it up really well. The letter is from the Czech Republic newspaper Prager Zeitung on April 28, 2010 that zeros in on the really serious problem in this country.
‘The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president.
“The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama who is a mere symptom of what ails America. Blaming the prince of fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince.”
The Republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him president.’

soapy_725
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soapy_725 07/30/13 - 08:32 am
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Why didn't they just extend Medicare to everyone? To easy?
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The Plan was already in place and working as well as any STATE program can work.

soapy_725
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soapy_725 07/30/13 - 08:35 am
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CMS was in place & working. Medicare was in place & working.
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CMS was in place & working. Medicare was in place & working.

deestafford
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deestafford 07/30/13 - 08:35 am
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It's all about power...not health care

After this is over the same number of people will be uninsured as there was before. Healthcare will have suffered and some people will have died unnecessarily as a result.

As a result of many doctors leaving the profession nurses and PAs will take their place and the quality of care goes down. It's shocking how many doctors are leaving the profession and not going to be replaced. Many who would have worked well beyond retirement age are hanging it up because of what they see their great profession becoming.

The solution to the health care "problem" was/is very simple:
--be allowed to buy health care policies across state lines just as you do auto insurance.
--eliminate mandatory state requirements such as pregnancy coverage for every female no matter the age; acqupuncture; hair transplants; and the list goes on of ridiculous mandates.
--institute tort reform as states like Texas has done.

RMSHEFF
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RMSHEFF 07/30/13 - 09:17 am
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We ain't seen nothing yet !

We ain't seen nothing yet ! People are against the ACA now but when it really gets going in about 3 or 4 years, most people will be so upset with poor care and long wait times to see a doctor only to learn you can't get the treatment your doctor says you need. President Hillary Clinton will then direct all the anger toward the "evil" insurance companies who have causes our premiums to triple and care quality and quantity to plunge. The "solution" will be a single payer plan! Who knew ?

amymuhammad
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amymuhammad 07/30/13 - 09:20 am
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?? What??

What does the ineptitude of your healthcare staff, facility and their billing department have to do with the provisions of the Obama administration health care plan? There were people who didn't do their jobs correctly before him and will be after. Get real please.

nocnoc
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nocnoc 07/30/13 - 09:32 am
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For ObamaCare to be repealed

would require the Liberals (Dims & Rinos) to admit they are wrong.

Just Look at the "Great Society"fiasco started in the 1960's and despite knowing it ain't working and is killing more than helping. They flatly refuse to repeal it, they'll just keep adding to it and patching it.

That's what the Lib's will do with Obamacare, refuse to repeal it, they'll just keep adding to it and patching it.

Some people or political groups cannot accept the fact it was good concept, just not the right idea as implemented politically.

RMSHEFF
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RMSHEFF 07/30/13 - 09:34 am
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amymuhammed

Obamacare rules require the least expensive treatment de done first even if the doctor disagrees with the course of treatment. The decision of what to do and when to do it rest in the hands of best practices panel. This is what is contained in the thousands of pages of the ACA. The doctor and patient have no say in what the treatment will be. This may be why the doctor used "glue" instead of stitches. As far as the billing errors, the paperwork under Obamacare has doubled leading to more errors. As I said, you ain't seen nothing yet.

dichotomy
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dichotomy 07/30/13 - 10:09 am
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The operative phrase here is

The operative phrase here is that "you ain't seen nothing yet". And nobody has even mentioned what Obamacare is doing to unemployment and how many former full time workers will be cut to 30 hours a week or less.

And for what......CBO says that we will still have as many people who are uninsured as we had BEFORE Obama and the Democrats ruined the health care system and doubled and tripled the price of private insurance for WORKING people. ObamaCARE is about as much of a misnomer as saying ObamaPATRIOTISM or ObamaCAPITALISM. It's all OBAMASOCIALISM.

And since we will STILL have JUST AS MANY UNINSURED.....it just goes to prove that OBAMA and the DEMOCRATS are so dumb they CANNOT EVEN DO SOCIALISM CORRECTLY.

OJP
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OJP 07/30/13 - 10:35 am
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What does this story have to do with ObamaCare?

Sounds like poor medical care.

Bizkit
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Bizkit 07/30/13 - 10:45 am
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I saw a poll that 47% of the

I saw a poll that 47% of the people believe their insurance will go up. So only 47% have bothered to read or understand the bill-it suppose to go up now. That is plan for cost to rise initially but then the savings will come long term. Course the govt has a bad track record with the long term issue. Really now Obamacare is unsustainable because the Rep have made dang sure the savings will never occur-only this short term rise will be exploited. But if the Dems had the same opportunity they would take it too for political gain. It will be an interesting footnote in the history books when they quote Pelosi- "We have to pass the bill to see what's in it" and how the bill was passed.
Sadly though I think people think that a bipartisan healthcare bill would actually be any better-likely not.

Bizkit
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Bizkit 07/30/13 - 10:51 am
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It is kinda of hard to

It is kinda of hard to believe this is the full story. Physicians now are penalized for return care under Obamacare, and lengthy hospital stays too. I would think they would be all over it to protect against lawsuits and penalties. RMSHEF has it correct too. Physicians costs have skyrocketed and they now have to hire a group of employees just to deal and harass insurance companies to pay. The insurance industry now regulate medical care-physicians have little say anymore. Even if a drug treatment is preferred by a physician-he can't prescribe it.

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mooseye 07/30/13 - 11:18 am
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The problem with health care is

the fault of the American people.
What I mean is that every time someone feels a little twinge, its off to the doc. Some people seem to make a ritual of it.
I don't blame the insurance companies. What do you expect them to do? They are not in business to make your health better. Thats right! They are in business to make a profit. Their profit is the spread between premiums collected and costs incurred. It is not their fault that doctors and hospitals charge the ridiculous amounts that they do.
So, if you run to the doctor for every little cut scrape or cough, it costs the insurer more and more per customer. Rates must rise to match these costs or the insurance company would be out of business in short order.
None of this means that I agree with being forced to carry health insurance. It is my body. I haven't been to a doctor in over 10 years and probably twice that for the hospital. Should I have been paying for health insurance all that time? I would have been subsidizing the cost of every person on insurance with that same company that was using it. Same reason I don't eat at large buffets often. I can't eat $14,95 worth, so I am subsidizing the cost of the food for the people that can, and do eat $24.95 worth. Same principal! These big eaters are also some of the very ones that have all kinds of health problems and have to have a standing appointment with the doc.
I can understand the need to require mandatory automobile insurance. There is a risk to others from your vehicle while operating on a public roadway. The insurance requirement for autos is in place to protect the public from my car. I don't see how my having health insurance would protect anyone other than the insurance company.

Bizkit
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Bizkit 07/30/13 - 11:21 am
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Moose you are right to some

Moose you are right to some extent-but we all know males hate to go to the doctor. Most Americans don't want inexpensive preventive care and would rather just take the risks and health decay to spend big bucks on too many specialist who try to pick up the pieces. It's the reason a single payer system won't work-we are basically an unhealthy uninsurable population. My father was an over weight, smoking, drinking, diabetic physician who would sit there and tell people to quit smoking and drinking and lose weight. He died of heart disease despite knowing all the risks more than most-wouldn't even take his insulin properly. Most Americans don't care to be healthy-mostly the educated and affluent care (the 1% they have all the wealth and health apparently).

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Humble Angela 07/30/13 - 11:32 am
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It was named the Affordable
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It was named the Affordable Care Act to fool the liberals into thinking it would be affordable....and they fell for it.

Bizkit
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Bizkit 07/30/13 - 11:34 am
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Hey Angela if it so

Hey Angela if it so affordable why isn't all of Congress signed up? How can you insure all Americans if govt is excluded.

RMSHEFF
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RMSHEFF 07/30/13 - 11:41 am
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A truly free market always

A truly free market always delivers the best product at the best price.
UNFORTUNATELY, we no longer have truly free markets in any area of commerce. The government has injected itself in numerous way and in every area in an effort to protect us from the evils and misfortunes of life. The more you can bring free market principles into the medical industry the better the service and the lower the price will be along with greater innovation. We are now moving in the opposite direction so we can expect a race to the bottom in all three areas.....the lowest common denominator.

Truth Matters
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Truth Matters 07/30/13 - 11:47 am
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ACA

Okay those of you who are opposed to ACA, in the interest of full disclosure, tell us if you have private health plans or employer sponsored plans. Mine is employer-sponsored.

Now your turn.

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 07/30/13 - 11:49 am
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I don't have a taxpayer
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I don't have a taxpayer sponsored plan.

Truth Matters
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Truth Matters 07/30/13 - 11:49 am
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One more thing

If your plan sponsor is a government entity such as state, municipality or Medicare, say so.

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 07/30/13 - 11:50 am
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I have a better, more
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I have a better, more pertinent question. How will the ACA help the country?

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