Case erodes pride, respect

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There are several observations to be made on the trial and verdict in the George Zimmerman case.

First, why was the jury made up of women, all white except for one minority, and why were there no men on the jury? I find the composition of the jury suspicious.

Second, why wasn’t there punishment of some sort for George Zimmerman? He should have at least been given probation and community service, and should have been made to apologize to the family of the victim.

Third, why were the Revs. Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson involved in the situation? Don’t these two have more constructive activities in which to engage than stirring up racial distrust and hatred? Contrary to what these two men believe, many of the injustices to black Americans have been righted, and most of us know how to get along. That includes justice.

There always will be bigots – those who hate others on the basis of color, religion, gender orientation or something imaginary. These two men make a living by stirring up racial distrust and hatred. These are the type of people who prevent the rest of us from getting along. What is in it for them?

Why don’t they encourage young people of all colors to look up to and respect black Americans such as Colin Powell, Bill Cosby, Oprah Winfrey and others who have made it in the American system despite hardships that we, especially young black Americans, cannot comprehend since they did not live through segregation and Jim Crow laws?

Many young Americans are so ignorant of their history that they cannot appreciate the sacrifices made by people – whites and blacks – to ensure more justice, better educational opportunities and more economic opportunities for our black brothers and sisters. Yes, I have used the words “black brothers and sisters,” even though I am white. I am of the race of mankind; that makes every Jew, every Catholic, every Muslim, every Asian and every black person my brother or sister. Black history is my history, too, because it is part of American history, and I am an American.

We have lost Trayvon Martin, who had the potential to contribute to our society. A man will have to live with the guilt for the rest of his life, and his actions will affect his future and the future of his family. One might remember John Donne’s Meditation XVII; Donne says, “No man is an island.” He ends with, “(A)nd therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.”

As have other situations, this situation affects all of us. The death of the young man and the lack of penalty for Zimmerman’s actions have caused all of us to lose a little of ourselves, lose pride in being Americans and lose respect and trust for the legal and judicial systems.

We should consider the care we give to our children to keep them out of harm’s way and to one another.

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Riverman1
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Riverman1 07/29/13 - 03:34 am
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Facts

Exactly WHY should Zimmerman be punished? Any facts? You find the jury selection "suspicious." How do you think the jury was chosen?

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InChristLove 07/29/13 - 04:59 am
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Every time I read "First, why

Every time I read "First, why was the jury made up of women, all white except for one minority, and why were there no men on the jury? I find the composition of the jury suspicious." or something similar, it just amazes me."

Evidently the writer doesn't understand the legal process of choosing a jury. Maybe they need to visit the process and take notes.

These statements insinuate that a black woman or black man, if selected for a jury, would have disregarded all of the evidence in this case and decided that Zimmerman was guilty (just because he was white and Trayvon was black). That no matter what the court presented or what the facts were, because they were black and because Trayvon was black, they would have determined Zimmerman was guilty because he was "white" and they would never go against a brother. And they want to preach about racism?

To me that is the most insulting viewpoint to an African American there is.....what their race is saying is, that AA are not intelligent enough to view all the evidence and make rational and unprejudiced decisions when it comes to one of their own. How do you know that the outcome of the trial would have been any different IF there had been a black woman or a black man selected to the jury. It is highly possible that they would have viewed the evidence as the "white women" did and came to the same conclusion (if they were honest and trustworthy Americans and not voting because of race)

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myfather15 07/29/13 - 05:11 am
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Well, Victoria;

I admire your letter and agree with it very much, except for the very first part.

"Second, why wasn’t there punishment of some sort for George Zimmerman?"

Uuuuum, because he was found not guilty, thats why. You don't render punishment to those found NOT guilty of a crime, just because YOU believe they did something wrong. The prosecution way OVERCHARGED, thanks to those people you mentioned (Sharpton&Jackson). They put so much political pressure on the prosecution; the prosecution collapsed and succumbed to pressure, over charging Zimmerman. THAT'S why he gets NO punishment and the fact he actually didn't commit a single crime that night. Following someone as a neighborhood watch member is no more STALKING them, than a Private Investigator following cheating spouses to hotels, taking pictures. If Martin had kept his fists to himself, he would be alive as we speak!!

Zimmerman showed truthful in NOT ONE, but TWO lie detectors when asked if HE confronted Martin first and he said NO!! This man appears to have been COMPLETELY cooperative!! Because if they would have asked ME to take a second lie detector after I passed one, I would have said "Are you kidding me!!! NO!!"

Oh, and what about Allen West, Herman Cain, Michael Steele, J.C. Watts, Ben Carson and many more? THESE are men the black community should be admiring!! These are men who would actually CHANGE peoples lives, if they would listen to them. These are men who advocate kicking butt and taking names, in other words "Can do type people", "Get it done" or "Do it yourself" type people!!

They certainly aren't like our current President and his ilk; who are "Sit around and wait on government to take care of you" type people!!

InChristLove
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InChristLove 07/29/13 - 05:13 am
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"Second, why wasn’t there

"Second, why wasn’t there punishment of some sort for George Zimmerman? "

Why? He was found not guilty.

Oh and as for the apology, "made to apologize"? Making someone apologize isn't an apology. Maybe some background searching would be in order. Zimmerman did apologize to Trayvon's parents and he wanted to meet with them but it never happened.

Taken from an AP article dated April 20, 2012 "George Zimmerman can be released on $150,000 bail as he awaits trial for the shooting death of Trayvon Martin, a judge ruled today during a hearing that saw Zimmerman apologize to Martin's parents for the teenager's death."

As for meeting with the family, he requested it, the family lawyer for Trayvon's parents denied his request.

Facts are so important in a case and when you do not research or only go by hearsay, most times your viewpoint is based on misinformation and incorrect rubbish.

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corgimom 07/29/13 - 05:28 am
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Who says that George

Who says that George Zimmerman feels guilt?

If I killed somebody in self-defense, no, I wouldn't feel guilty for one minute.

And it's so refreshing to see people that believe in kangaroo courts. It makes me so hopeful for the future.

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Humble Angela 07/29/13 - 06:40 am
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Got to love this mentality.
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Got to love this mentality. If you are found not guilty by a court of your peers, they want you punished anyway. I wonder if these people ever heard of the constitution.

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carcraft 07/29/13 - 06:42 am
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RACIAL PROFILING ANYONE?

What differance does the gender and race of the jury matter, unless you don't think women or whites can make a goo decision. If you believe that then you are practicing racial and sexual profiling!?

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 07/29/13 - 06:45 am
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Exactly, carcraft. I thought
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Exactly, carcraft. I thought racial profiling was bad.

CobaltGeorge
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CobaltGeorge 07/29/13 - 06:57 am
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So,

What you are saying is, that Trayvon should have been able to finish Zimmerman off and he wouldn't have to suffer, - " A man will have to live with the guilt for the rest of his life, and his actions will affect his future and the future of his family."

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seenitB4 07/29/13 - 07:08 am
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Picking up bones

How long will it take for "some" to accept the jurys verdict?

I accepted the O J verdict the 1st day...didn't like it & thought it stunk..but the law had spoken.

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 07/29/13 - 07:19 am
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Right, seenit...and I didn't
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Right, seenit...and I didn't expect the federal government to swoop in and punish him anyway. As a matter of fact, I wasn't thrilled that he was able to be sued for a crime that he was found not guilty for.

corgimom
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corgimom 07/29/13 - 07:36 am
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Humble Angela, the burden of

Humble Angela, the burden of proof is different in a criminal versus civil case. It is common for people that are responsble for a death to be sued for wrongful death.

One is the criminal system, where the State is the prosecutor, the other is the people that have been injured by the death. They are two very separate issues.

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 07/29/13 - 07:38 am
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I understand that corgi, It
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I understand that corgi, It just seems odd that he can be held "responsible" for a murder that he was already found not guilty of. I'm not saying it is legally wrong......just irritating.

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Bizkit 07/29/13 - 07:43 am
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Good point car. The Catch 22

Good point car. The Catch 22 of all these diatribes is they are all racist, and now discriminating towards gender (gosh the slippery slope). I guess some think an all black male jury would have been more appropriate. Zimmerman broke no laws-the police questioned him for 5 hours and found no grounds to arrest the man. From what we know of Martin he was statistically headed for trouble-school truancy, drugs, fighting, an Occam's razor statistical approach would indicate a troubled life for this young man with no education and drug usage. Drug use in Florida is against the law.

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localguy55 07/29/13 - 07:44 am
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Punishment for defending yourself??

A well written piece of denial. Trayvon was a young thug that decided to act out violently and ended up on the losing end. The evidence showed this and the jury agreed. Would anyone here take a beating from a 17 year old and not defend yourself if you could? I think not. Ms. Antonacci, take a long look at Zimmerman's injuries, and then tell me what you would have done if it were you. Then again go take a stroll down the riverwalk in the after hours, alone and unarmed, if you have the nerve. Then when you are attacked, just sit there and take like a good citizen. And if you live after a possible rape and beating tell everyone how you feel about your fellow man. Real life experiences tend to change the Utopian minded flower child's view of the world.

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nocnoc 07/29/13 - 08:06 am
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A person has been judged

by a jury of his peers.
A jury selected and approved by both the Government and the
person's Defense team.

Is that not what every racial leader demands, or has
a PC Double standard here not been followed?

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RMSHEFF 07/29/13 - 08:04 am
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The most bothersome part of

The most bothersome part of all these discussions is that many seem to think only black jurors can render a just verdict when other blacks are involved. This fact seems to spill over to elected officials as well as President Obama received over 95% of the black vote in 2008.

Bizkit
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Bizkit 07/29/13 - 08:17 am
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Years ago I had a family

Years ago I had a family member go to prison. He was a physician. I also defended my family member but realized in the long run he must have been guilty either intentionally or ignorantly. After some forty years of family practice, delivering thousands of babies, saved thousands of lives, he was found guilty of breaking federal dispensing drug laws. He had already retired with some community celebration before some drug abusers were found with his prescriptions. Personally I don't believe he intentionally broke the law-just deceived by drug addicts. But that doesn't matter and he still served time. A hell of life ain't it.

nocnoc
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nocnoc 07/29/13 - 08:23 am
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corgimom - makes a valid point

Example in the OJ trial.
Criminal Evidence rules precluded the use of many items.
But under the Lawsuit rules they were allowed.

Like the incriminating items found in the SUV, that could not be used because Change of Custody wasn't followed, it wasn't properly impounded and was not inventoried until several others had control of the SUV & Keys.

Boils down to "beyond a reasonable doubt" vs. "preponderance of the evidence".

However, the OJ was not permitted until AFTER the trial.
I am not sure when the Lawsuit against the defendant occurred or if it was against the HOA and not him.

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deestafford 07/29/13 - 08:33 am
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A thoughtful letter; however, three parts---the first

few paragraphs and the last--are off base and have been well covered by other commenters.

If one listens/reads what obama said when he stood up in the WH press room and talked about how the blacks feel about racial profiling on elevators, when whites see blacks crossing the street they lock their doors, when blacks are followed in stores, and how this ingrains some type of historical sense of undeserved bias on the part of blacks, one would believe that blacks should not serve on juries because they cannot be impartial in weighing evidence.(Sorry about that crazy run on sentence but the thought was flowing better than the punctuation.)

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rmwhitley 07/29/13 - 09:20 am
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You people
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who wish to be politically correct but moronically stupid baffle me. Unless you knew or know Trayvon Martin or George Zimmerman personally, quit speculating. I'm certain "The White Man's Shame Syndrome" has overcome many of you who have decided Mr. Zimmerman did something wrong or Master Martin was just being a normal kid. To persecute and vilify someone who was found innocent just to "show" negroes their tolerance for them is racism at it's worst. You disgust me!

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allhans 07/29/13 - 09:29 am
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Young thugs in elevators or

Young thugs in elevators or any secluded location makes me nervous no matter what race they are. The remark made by Obama was maybe the stupidest remark I have heard from the Trayvon defenders. They all ought to be ashamed.

I had two young white women eyeing me last week at the gas station and was nervous enough to cut it short and re-enter my car. It's not race or gender, it's appearance.

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Little Lamb 07/29/13 - 09:33 am
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Penalty

Victoria Antonacci wrote:

. . . the lack of penalty for Zimmerman’s actions have caused all of us to lose a little of ourselves, lose pride in being Americans and lose respect and trust for the legal and judicial systems.

Zimmerman has been penalized plenty. He has surrendered his privacy. He has received threats. He has lost a year of his life in seclusion while awaiting trial; and he's still in semi-seclusion. He is paying a bodyguard. And he will spend the rest of his life making monthly payments to his defense attorneys.

Shame on Eric Holder if the feds harass him with a civil rights trial.

Shame on Mrs. Martin if she harasses him with a wrongful death trial.

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Bizkit 07/29/13 - 09:47 am
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Of course, Obama isn't the

Of course, Obama isn't the first racist to hold the WH office. But he sure has said some really blatantly racist and ignorant comments-yeah calling on people to be slow to make judgments eh. Of course we all knew he was racist after he admitted as much in his book-typical white people who are cruel and ignorantm and his admiration for Malcolm X and violence against whites. Which is really weird that in the present day an admitted drug addict, idealizes communism, universalist religiosity, admitted racist can then be president. Course now he says he lied in his book. So he is an admitted liar too. Sounds too strange to be true. But those are his words.

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Bizkit 07/29/13 - 10:58 am
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validPoint
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validPoint 07/29/13 - 11:57 am
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These Questions will always remain..

Based on observations, there are many people seeking answers to the same questions you have posed here. Personally, I will not even attempt to answer a single one of them because I choose to keep my answers in my own little private corner. However, if I were in a life threatening situation and it became necessary for me to take a life in order to save mine, the incident alone would probably lay me up on a mental ward for some time, and I hail from a combat oriented background.

The interesting thing is, regardless to how folk may provide justifications, the key players will always face a consequence that justification simply cannot erase. Something like money can buy a bed, but it cannot buy a good night's sleep.

InChristLove
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InChristLove 07/29/13 - 12:41 pm
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'The interesting thing is,

'The interesting thing is, regardless to how folk may provide justifications, the key players will always face a consequence that justification simply cannot erase."

True validPoint, but when Truth is the justification, there is no consequence that needs erasing.

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myfather15 07/29/13 - 12:46 pm
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"And he will spend the rest of his life making monthly payments to his defense attorneys"

They probably took it pro-bono and he didn't have to pay a penny. This type of case is MAJOR advertisement to these lawyers and can make them nationally known. Most lawyers would give their right eye to get a case like this. After the verdict, look at all the shows Zimmerman's lawyers were going on!! They became famous, now everyone will want to hire them. I wouldn't have paid them a cent!!

myfather15
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myfather15 07/29/13 - 12:45 pm
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So, let me get this straight;

So, let me get this straight; if a black man is accused of a crime, the Sharpton/Jackson crowd DEMANDS the jury consist of mostly black people, as to be fair!!

But, when a "white" man (Zimmerman is NOT white by the way) is accused; for him to expect to have white people on the jury, is racist and unfair? You would think, by how people are complaining about the jury selection; that Trayvon Martin was on trial. What did you want, an ALL black jury to judge a "White" man?

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