Tactics thwart voter parity

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The more obvious discriminatory acts such as literacy tests and poll taxes no longer exist, but have been replaced by acts that are under the radar.

Southern states primarily have engaged in legislation that would limit the power of minority voters, because acquisition of power is determined by the number of votes. The window to vote, gerrymandering or required hard-copy identification are but a few tactics. Polling sites have been moved for specious reasons so the targeted citizens who are affected by the relocation would have to go farther to vote.

Southerners are all too aware that such legislation would have a deleterious effect on blacks and Latinos in particular. For example, while relocating a polling site might not affect a majority of voters in a given district, it would have the effect of removing some from voting, particularly those who are elderly, in fragile health or who are without transportation. These are mean-spirited, low-level means of reducing the numbers of people of color who the conservatives know are extremely likely to vote a Democratic ticket.

Some would argue that a few states outside of the South have attempted to enact the same practices. This is true, but the real power of blacks lies in the Southern states. Texas and Arizona are Republican strongholds with a predominance of Latinos, but the greater number of blacks are in the South.

That Southerners are employing different tactics to achieve the same results of thwarting democracy compares to the Reconstruction period, when present-day Southerners’ 19th-century ancestors killed, beat and intimidated blacks to reduce their voting power. The qualities of intent and impact are identical. Only the tactics have changed. Therefore, I would submit that current conditions are different from 1865 only in methodology, not in impact.

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carcraft
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carcraft 07/15/13 - 05:41 am
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Ah yes the Gerrymandered

Ah yes the Gerrymandered district, like the one created for young Mr. Politician wanta be Walker? LOL get a grip here, every party gerrymanders districts, it is as American as baseball!

carcraft
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carcraft 07/15/13 - 05:42 am
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President Obama suggested

President Obama suggested Voter ID's in Africa, not good enough for America...

nofanofobama
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nofanofobama 07/15/13 - 06:36 am
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what a bunch of

what a bunch of garbage..photo i.d. you cant even bank witout a photo ID..

afadel
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afadel 07/15/13 - 07:27 am
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Voting Rights Act Prospective Review Was Necessary

For those who took the recent Supreme Court decision that gutted the Voting Rights Act as vindication that discrimination no longer lingers deep in the heart of Texas, one only need look back to the summer of 2012 to see evidence to the contrary.

http://billmoyers.com/2013/07/13/the-fight-to-protect-voting-rights-in-t...

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ymnbde 07/15/13 - 07:34 am
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how do you satisfy a gerrymandered mind?

move common sense and logic to another thought district?
1965, 1865, 2013... it's all the same
dates people who's what's where's when's and why's
cut and paste and mix and match until your own prejudices are satisfied
what a swarm of illogical fallacies must be in that cranial hive

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deestafford 07/15/13 - 08:00 am
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For the letter writer's edification gerrrymandering was started

in the north. I believe it was by a mayor of NYC named Gerry.

The writer gives no specific examples, only throwing out race baiting talking points. Never mind there are greater percentages of blacks voting in the South than in the uptopian north. As with most illogical racial rants the writer acts as if every action is making the blacks victims...a group that is too stupid and ignorant to take care of themselves.

Who are the Hispanic leaders? The Asian leaders? The Italian leaders? You don't hear of any because these people don't need "leaders" to give the impression that their group is a bunch of mentally deficients who must be led around because they are too stupid to do things individually for themselves.

I suggest the letter writer go out to I-20 and decide to go east or west. By going east she can connect with I-95 and take it to the perfect cities of DC, Baltimore, Trenton, Philadelphia and other havens of racial utopia.If she goes west she can connect with I-75 or I-85 which will take her to the lovely and safe cities of Chicago, Detroit, and Cleveland that are run totally by blacks and are also racial and economic utopias.

If the letter writer is really in a hurry to get to the racial uptopias listed above she can take the late Lewis Grizzard's advice of "Delta's ready when you are."

myfather15
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myfather15 07/15/13 - 07:59 am
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Although this letter is

Although this letter is ridiculous and absurd; I certainly DO NOT like redistricting for any reason!! Why does ANY party need to do this? This is NOT as American as apple pie!! Apple pies tastes wonderful, while this corruption should leave a bad taste in ANYONES mouth; regardless of who is rezoning the district!!!

I seem the maps on how some districts have been rezoned and it's absolutely absurd!!! They should be charged criminally for rezoning districts to gain more votes!! They should ALL be charged criminally for pork spending and earmarks as well!! It's simply disgusting and happens in EVERY level of government!! Common sense has GOT to take back American politics or we are ALL in trouble!!! But, my guess is that it's only going to get worse, not better!!!

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RMSHEFF 07/15/13 - 08:43 am
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Absurd letter

It has never been easier to vote than it is today. If you can't manage to to find a way to vote maybe you should not be voting anyway.

RMSHEFF
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RMSHEFF 07/15/13 - 08:46 am
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AFADEL

I was wondering if you would say the Black Panther case in 2008 would be "voter intimidation"? What if it would have been some "skin head" white people at a mostly black polling place doing the same thing as these Panthers were doing?

The New Black Panther Party voter intimidation case,in which two of its members, who stood out front of a polling place in Philadelphia on Election Day 2008 wearing military gear. They were captured on video and were accused of trying to discourage some people from voting. One carried a nightstick.

deestafford
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deestafford 07/15/13 - 09:32 am
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You talk about gerrymanding!

Look at how some districts in the South have been drawn to insure a black was elected to congress. Some have parts that are only as wide as the four lanes of the interstate in order to join two communities of majority blacks to make sure there was a black majority voting district.

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soapy_725 07/15/13 - 09:39 am
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If something is FREE. All will find transportation&a photo ID.
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If something is FREE. All will find transportation&a photo ID.

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Little Lamb 07/15/13 - 10:17 am
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Illogical

Ms. Thurmond wrote:

For example, while relocating a polling site might not affect a majority of voters in a given district, it would have the effect of removing some from voting, particularly those who are elderly, in fragile health or who are without transportation.

By its very nature, relocating a polling site moves it farther away from some, but closer to some others. So some elderly, in fragile health, or without transportation people will have easier access to make up for those who have more difficult access after the move. It all evens out in the wash.

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avidreader 07/15/13 - 10:17 am
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Once Again!

Once again, a commentary without specific examples. Why not name a few voting precincts that are inconvenient to the majority of the district? Why not give an example of a pre-gerrymandered district? Why not explain in detail the particulars of our state ID process?

And, to follow up on carcraft's comment, Cynthia McKinney and Charles Walker never complained about gerrymandered districts.

Ms. Thurmond, do you often watch MSNBC -- it appears so.

seenitB4
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seenitB4 07/15/13 - 10:26 am
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Holdup a minute

Let us pretend this letter writer is right......,now I would suggest you head on up NORTH where everything is soo right....
GEEZ...it never stops..NEVER!

avidreader
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avidreader 07/15/13 - 10:33 am
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Addendum!

And remember Ms. Thurmond, the Chronicle posts these types of letters simply to get a rise from their many conservative readers who fill the commentary boxes. And yes, I admit, I have no statistics to support this comment -- I'm merely speculating based on patterns. It's kind of sad how right-wing conservatives play tricks on the MSNBC types.

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dichotomy 07/15/13 - 10:51 am
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"Therefore, I would submit

"Therefore, I would submit that current conditions are different from 1865 only in methodology, not in impact."

And I would submit that this is a big load of crappola spewed by another eternal victim who would much prefer that all polling sites come with a standard issue of 2 New Black Panthers with billy clubs to intimidate white voters.

Has Sameera ever researched the gerrymandering in states and districts controlled by the Democrats? Neighborhoods and geographic regions with common interests ripped apart just to ensure that ONLY a black candidate could be elected even though they would have NO reason to actually represent the best interest of any of the regions or neighborhoods that their meandered districts carved apart.

Nothing has been done that would prevent ANY AMERICAN CITIZEN from voting if they are inclined to do so. Not all districts can be black districts and many of the ones that are black districts really shouldn't be if drawn logically. Maybe Sameera should be more concerned with voting for the best candidate to represent ALL of the people in a district instead of just voting for a black candidate. Black politicians from meandered districts historically do NOTHING to help ALL of their district economically or policy wise and instead tend to do nothing but stay at the capitol and demagogue on a few self created racial issues......just like they do in Augusta.

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Bulldog 07/15/13 - 10:51 am
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What's wrong with literacy tests?

Someone kindly advise me why someone with an IQ of 70 should be allowed to vote. 75? 80?

willie7
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willie7 07/15/13 - 11:01 am
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Thanks Ms. Thurmond for your
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Thanks Ms. Thurmond for your letter highlighting minority voter suppression.

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chascushman 07/15/13 - 04:37 pm
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'Someone kindly advise me why
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'Someone kindly advise me why someone with an IQ of 70 should be allowed to vote. 75? 80?'
bulldog, because the democrats would lose over 1/2 their voters.

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Darby 07/15/13 - 05:36 pm
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This entire letter is hogwash....

Gerrymandering has been with us since it was first introduced by Massachusetts Gov. Elbridge Gerry in 1811.

Both parties use it, Democrats have most abused it with districts that are frequently drawn the width of a country road to connect pockets of Democrat voters miles apart into the same district.

These folks keep saying that requiring ID to vote discriminates against blacks, but NEVER manage to explain how.

The window to vote as a tool to suppress the black vote. Now that's really funny! For more than 200 years, that window was an eight hour period on the first Tuesday after the first Monday in November. And Americans planned for it and managed to make it work.

Now it goes on for a month or more, beginning before the candidates are even known to some voters and YET THAT'S NOT LONG ENOUGH!

And all this discrimination against blacks during Reconstruction? Does the writer not know that the South was under the thumb and control of the Union during the entire period of Reconstruction?

She doesn't do her homework. She simply rants, repeats half-truths and fairy tales, passing them off as fact.

Why also do we spend millions of dollars to support and encourage voter ID in emerging nations but resist doing the same at home.

Other than the fact that fair elections in the United States don't tend to favor Democrats.

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rmwhitley 07/15/13 - 06:05 pm
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Negroes
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are the biggest users of gerrymandering on earth. Their cries of voter discrimination fall on deaf ears in my home. If y'all think you're treated better up north, Greyhound and Delta go there many times daily.

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Shortcomment 07/15/13 - 06:51 pm
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Gerrymandered district, like the one created for

Ms. McKinney that was 8 miles long and 2 streets wide?

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Shortcomment 07/15/13 - 06:59 pm
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If voter ID discriminates

How does a person get a, car loan, a drivers lic. cash a pay or
welfare check, apply for a job, or welfare, open a bank account, turn on the lights, heat the house, cable tv, get a cell phone, etc. etc. etc.? What Voter ID does do, is limit a person to 1 vote. ---->Their Own

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itsanotherday1 07/15/13 - 07:21 pm
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To myfathers 0759. "they all do it" is no excuse to keep doing it. Re-districting in and of itself is necessary to address population shifts and migration, but oddly shaped districts to concentrate or dilute certain voters should not happen.

Darby
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Darby 07/15/13 - 10:19 pm
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"Gerrymandered district, like the one

created for Ms. McKinney that was 8 miles long and 2 streets wide?"

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Yes, it was terrible the way Cynthia and her father Billy drew her district in such a way as to discriminate against blacks.

Oh! Wait a minute. I forgot. They drew that one to discriminate against whites.

My Bad!

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corgimom 07/15/13 - 10:23 pm
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"The New Black Panther Party

"The New Black Panther Party voter intimidation case,in which two of its members, who stood out front of a polling place in Philadelphia on Election Day 2008 wearing military gear. They were captured on video and were accused of trying to discourage some people from voting. One carried a nightstick."

They were as intimidating as the Keystone Kops. Nobody took them seriously. Don't you think it's strange how nobody came forward and said "I couldn't vote because two doofuses dressed up like the military of some made-up country, acted like idiots"?

The New Black Panther Party is the black equivalent of the KKK- it's a bunch of losers that couldn't get hired as dogcatchers, but they want to "be somebody", so they dress up in those "military" uniforms. The Army of Misfits, is more like it.

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corgimom 07/15/13 - 10:30 pm
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"Southern states primarily

"Southern states primarily have engaged in legislation that would limit the power of minority voters, because acquisition of power is determined by the number of votes."

Sure, that's how Obama got elected, by that limited power of minority voters. Same with Roundtree.

corgimom
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corgimom 07/15/13 - 10:32 pm
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Redistricting is done for

Redistricting is done for many reasons.

Some are political, sure; but most are because of shifts in population. Columbia County is a prime example.

It doesn't much matter, one lousy politician is as good for nothing as another.

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