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Disrespecting the Bible and banning it from public places does not remove its truth!

In the first chapter of Isaiah, the prophet proclaims to Israel God’s inner feelings about the way they were living and that His judgment was coming. Israel had turned from God to worship idols. God asks Israel, “Why are you forsaking Me? Think of all I have done for you! Even the donkey knows its master but you do not acknowledge Me.”

Because Israel had fallen into the sinful lifestyle of the nations around her, she was exiled into other lands. Has evil thinking slowly deceived us to where we no longer know whom our God is? In the name of tolerance we have voted away truth, lowered our standards and opened ourselves to God’s judgment.

Prophets warned the Jews that their rejection of God would bring exile, but they did not listen! Our ministers not only do not warn us of judgment, but accept and promote sins that Israel was guilty of.

In the 18th verse of that chapter, God pleads with Israel to reason with Him, that He would forgive them! Israel did not come, and suffered captivity.

How long will God allow us to continue to disrespect Him? Our enemies no longer are at our door; they are in our house! Let us take note of what we were and what we have become.

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Chris 232
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Chris 232 07/07/13 - 12:36 am
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Thank you ACES for reinvigorating the LP agenda. Hillary 2016!!
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Thank you ACES for reinvigorating the LP agenda. Hillary in 2016!!!

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specsta 07/07/13 - 02:10 am
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Truth?

Gil Ward wrote - "In the name of tolerance we have voted away truth, lowered our standards and opened ourselves to God’s judgment."

Maybe a history lesson is in order here.

Since the letter writer seems to be reminiscing about some non-existent "Ozzie & Harriet" world, some cold truth should open his eyes. Let's hope so.

If you want to talk about God's judgement, let's look at the genocide of the Native Americans in the name of God. Or the torture and enslavement of Africans by Americans, ripping apart generations of families. Or how about the nukes the US dropped on human beings in WW2? Or what about the human experimentation conducted at Tuskegee?

Then, let's meander over to the lynchings and Jim Crow laws of the South. Add in US policy to kill innocent civilians in Third-world countries, and top it off with the plight of the poor and homeless. Then we can wash all it down with the abuse of prisoners, all two million of them, in this country.

Then we could explore sick people not getting help, children going to bed hungry while million-dollar killing machines are built, the elderly getting by on a pittance, and the rise of the police state.

Hmmm...seems like there's a lot of stuff God could have on His list to judge us for. But the typical right-wing conservative mind worries about stuff that doesn't matter, like who marries whom and whether or not the 10 Commandments are on display in a courthouse. They worry about nonsense, all the while people are dying and suffering and losing hope.

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Jon Lester 07/07/13 - 05:06 am
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If you haven't read Kipling in a while, you should revisit

his "Just So Stories," and then ask yourself what it reminds you of.

myfather15
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myfather15 07/07/13 - 09:21 am
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Here we go again!!

America is the most dispicable Country in the world!! Bla, Bla, Bla! During the early years of the fledgling nation, both sides were guilty of atrocities against each other. As well as American Indians committing atrocities against each other!! The only difference was American Indians were already living here, but during those times; that wasn't recognized, in the world. Those were not civilized times in any part of the world. Can we alive today, help or change what happened then? Specsta, would you like to pay for the actions of the people then? Maybe they should set up the hanging gallows today and hang everyone who is distant family of those evil people? Sound good?

But that's the point, people like specsta, use what happened THEN to say we are PRESENTLY still like that. Because pointing out that America has got it right over the generations, doesn't fit well into the agenda of hating America!!

Who exactly tortured and enslaved African Americans? Yes, some slave owners did so. But maybe if you did a little more research, you would find the WORST treatment they received where from their OWN COUNTRYMEN!! When they were captured and forced onto boats, treated like pieces of meat, starved, physical ailments weren't treated. If one got sick on the boat, while on the way over here, they were tossed overboard, alive!!

As for the rest of those lies, even if they were true; God is NOT responsible, MANKIND IS!! Men are selfish and egotistical!! One of the main reason's we are here today is so we can see what it's like when MANKIND rules the earth. God wants us to see exactly how MEN are and how they run things. With mankind in charge, this earth will NEVER see peace; then when Christ returns, we will see just how good it is, with God in charge!! We will then learn to appreciate God's leadership and not take it for granted!! Anyway, I'm not wasting anymore time debunking the untruthes told by America and God haters!!! It's simply pathetic that they live in this great Country but have nothing good to say about it; unless it's something Obama accomplished or DOMA being shot down!!

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Young Fred 07/07/13 - 05:43 am
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Ahh, don't “they” always

Ahh, don't “they” always invoke Ozzie and Harriet? For a Statist, Oz & Ht are ground up and sprinkled on their gruel, like, like basic sustenance!

Anything or anybody or any instance that harks back to a time when people were civil to each other, when society held a standard, anything that brings up the “good 'ole days” automatically brings up a “bad old time” in their eyes. Ozzie and Harriet. They refuse to look at the statistics; they refuse reality.

Refusing to acknowledge there is good as well as bad, they focus on the negative, while ignoring the positive. A positive that could help untold numbers of people.

They think “give to the less fortunate”; while we think “what can we do to help the less fortunate”

We try to move them out, while they try to solidify.

It's pretty sickening if you think about it.

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myfather15 07/07/13 - 06:30 am
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What have we become?

A godless nation of anything goes behavior, that's what!! You should NOT judge anyone's behavior or anything they do, because "we shouldn't judge" right?

Liberals have touted that garbage for years to get the good people backing up!! But the truth is Christ himself taught us "By their fruits, ye shall know them." Fruits are their WORKS or what they do. If you are to never judge (or better said, discern) then how are you to KNOW them, because you can't pass judgement on their deeds or actions?

Paul also taught that we are to withdraw ourselves from those who act disorderly.

II Thessalonians 3:6 " Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us."

Well, my goodness!! How are we suppose to withdraw ourselves if we aren't suppose to cast judgement upon other people's behavior???? We certainly aren't suppose to condemn others behavior as immoral, so how to we withdraw ourselves from it?

The bottom line is the liberal junk about judging others is a lie. Yes, I'm familiar with Christs "Those without sin, cast the first stone" but what they don't want to remind you of is Christ told the woman "Go and sin no more". Also, just like the woman at the well in John 4; Christ knew exactly what these Pharisees were doing; trying to set him up and catch him in hypocrisy. They failed!!! He knew they had each commited adultry which is what they are accusing her of, just like he knew the woman at the well had 5 husbands.

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Young Fred 07/07/13 - 06:48 am
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specsta

“let's look at the genocide of the Native Americans”

Really?

Do you actually know what the “Native Americans” did to each other?

Of course you do – or maybe you don't. You're either uneducated in reality or you are educated in towing the line.

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shrimp for breakfast 07/07/13 - 08:09 am
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Same old America

America is no more screwed up today than it has been for decades. Think about the 1968. Assasinations of MLK and Bobby Kennedy. God has not been taken away. There are more churches now than there were 20 years ago. Just because they're not posting the 10 commandments on government property does not mean the country has gone to pot. People long for the good old days. Every person alive longs for a time when they were younger. There is no more corruption in government than there was 10, 20, 30 years ago. Government has always been corrupt. Everyone says let's take out country back! Take it back from who? It's our country and it's never gone anywhere. Take the country back. What hogwash. There are just as many believers in God and do his will as there always were. Many more in fact. Just because the gay community wants equal rights doesn't mean we're Sodom and Gomorrah. There have always been gay people, there have always been gay boy scouts. They are not going away and treating them like they're deviant, godless, evil human beings is not Christian whatsoever. Now the Southern Baptists are distancing themselves from the Scouts and not allowing them to meet in their churches. Now that's ugly. Think about all the scouts (kids) who won't get a chance to enjoy the wonderful joy of scouting just because the church leaders disagree with equal rights for gays. Like I said they're not going away. Some will call the country Godless because gays are getting equal rights but I think we've become more tolerant. I be damned if I'll throw the first stone.

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soldout 07/07/13 - 08:10 am
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good letter

It is always good to see the truth of the Word. People can either live by the Word and enjoy this life or work against it and always be angry and be in some kind of constant struggle. Since the Word says it isn't within a man to direct his own path I choose to be led by the spirit of God. God set up the law of sowing and reaping and He doesn't have to do anything to make this nation go down because sowing and reaping will do it. Jesus took the punishment for our sins and paid the price but we must accept that payment or try to handle things ourselves. That's good news and when you consider He is working all things together for His children's good it gets even better. We can expect sinners to act like sinners. So good to see fellow Christians make such good and strong comments.

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TrukinRanger 07/07/13 - 08:25 am
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Fairy tales are not truth.
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Fairy tales are not truth.

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InChristLove 07/07/13 - 08:56 am
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Shrimp, I understand your

Shrimp, I understand your point of view but have to disagree on some of your statements. You stated “There are more churches now than there were 20 years ago.” That may be true and we can build hundreds and thousands of church buildings but that does not mean we are any closer to God. Only means we have built more buildings.

You stated “There are just as many believers in God and do his will as there always were.” Key word here is "do his will" and I'd say they are few and far between. There are many who call Him Lord or call themselves Christians but want to live as the world lives. They want to be the sinner's friend instead of telling them the gospel.

You stated concerning gay scouts and homosexuals “They are not going away and treating them like they're deviant, godless, evil human beings is not Christian whatsoever. Now the Southern Baptists are distancing themselves from the Scouts and not allowing them to meet in their churches. Now that's ugly.”

How is this ugly. If a group of hookers wanted to meet in the church, if a group wanted to set up a gambling game every Friday night, if a group of swingers wanted to use the fellowship hall to set up their weekly gatherings, would you be okay with it? I hope the answer would be no, after all, sin is sin no matter what the vice. Why does the church not have the right to tell the BSA they need to find another venue to meet at? They aren’t tell the BSA the gay scouts can not join the scouts, they are simply saying, you can not meet in the Lord’s house.”

You stated “Think about all the scouts (kids) who won't get a chance to enjoy the wonderful joy of scouting just because the church leaders disagree with equal rights for gays.” How is asking them to meet somewhere else stopping “kids” from attending BSA. Are you saying if they can’t meet at the church then they have to leave the BSA? Why can’t they meet at the school house, or local community center, etc.?

I’m not throwing stones either, but the Lord’s house is supposed to be Holy. Allowing known unrepented sin to be welcomed into the Father’s house is not keeping it Holy. Yes we allow sinners into the Lord's house every week but we also preach, repentance, forgiveness, and a return personal fellowship with Christ. Sin will never go away until His returning, but as a Christian we are supposed to be in the world, not of the world.

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myfather15 07/07/13 - 09:41 am
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We also don't allow those sinners to come in a openly flaunt their SIN!! If, they're coming to the House of God, they are suppose to be giving Him respect, love and obedience. How are they doing that by living a lifestyle which is AGAINST Biblical teachings? Not to mention against the very laws of NATURE!!

In my opinion, gay people wanting equal rights as far a marriage IS INDEED making us Sodom and Gomorrah!! Why? Because that's exactly what Sodom and Gomorrah was, a city advocating and openly practicing homosexuality. The proof is when Lot took the angels in, in the form of MEN. The MEN of Sodom and Gomorrah came to Lot and wanted to "know" (have carnel knowlege of) the MEN that came to his house. Lot offered his beautiful virgin daughters to these MEN and they refused and said send the MEN out, or we will come in and get them!!

As for the other topics, you covered it quite well!! Amos Chapter 8:11 " Behold, the days come, saith the Lord GOD, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the LORD:"

There might be a "Church" on every corner, but God's TRUTH is taught in VERY FEW of them!!

There is also NOONE who has been more critical of pastors, teachers and preachers than God Himself!! To many places to list of where He spoke of these people!

He also warned us ALL throughout the Bible to use wisdom and understand the difference in those who CLAIM to be Christian and those who actually are!! It's VERY easy to say "I'm Christian" but "By their fruits, ye shall know them."

Young Fred
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Young Fred 07/07/13 - 09:41 am
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Shrimp said – “America is

Shrimp said – “America is no more screwed up today than it has been for decades. Think about the 1968. Assassinations of MLK and Bobby Kennedy...”

...Is a matter of perspective. The late 60's was a crazy, scary, messed up time for sure. But there is a big difference between what happened then and what is happening now. Should I spell it out?

Then you said this - “ Government has always been corrupt. Everyone says let's take out country back! Take it back from who? It's our country and it's never gone anywhere. Take the country back. What hogwash.”

Correct me if I'm wrong, but are you suggesting corruptness is a normal thing we should accept and live with? We had corruption THEN therefore we should accept corruption NOW? Because today's corruption is no worse than yesterday's corruption?

Jeezohpeez, I hope you're not a school teacher.

IT IS exactly that kind of mindset that has allowed yesterday's corruption to grow steadily worse.

Did I say “steadily”? Let me correct, with the election of BHObama the corruption has been squared, and many don't care. There is only so long we can allow our gov't to have uncontrolled growth and power, until the point of no return has been reached. I don't blame Obama, he's just a tool. I blame the citizens that have a blahzay attitude.

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soapy_725 07/07/13 - 10:30 am
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They will close up their ears, refusing to hear the TRUTH....
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seeking teachers that will tickle their ears........

soapy_725
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soapy_725 07/07/13 - 10:31 am
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He has turned them over to a reprobate mind, not knowing truth
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He has turned them over to a reprobate mind, not knowing truth

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pearlthesquirrel 07/07/13 - 10:34 am
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One of four
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Gil Ward, S.G. von Schweinitz, Kevin Palmer, and Ed Payne M.D. are the only letter writers you ever see in the Chronicle - and it's ALWAYS them telling YOU that you're living your life incorrectly. Seriously, what the hell is the Chronicles obsession with religion and the Bible? I bet you Gil Ward hasn't read the Bible from cover to cover - because only 10% of those so-called Christians have. C'mon Chronicle, leave religion to the uneducated for their Sunday enjoyment and give the informed something to masticate on.

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nofanofobama 07/07/13 - 10:47 am
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Spec. I'm so tired of the

Spec. I'm so tired of the liberals blaming America for ending WW2 by dropping the a-bombs. Look back at history b/4. Making a untestable claim. The lives it saved is in the millions, the sacrifice it would have cost is beyond comprehension. Look it up. Look it up.

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carcraft 07/07/13 - 02:21 pm
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Spectra, please read about

Spectra, please read about the Rape of Nanking, or the Korean "comfort girls " of WWII and tell me why the A bomb was any more brutal! The fire bombing of Dresden was a direct response to the bombing of London. Both those were so human!

specsta
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specsta 07/07/13 - 03:38 pm
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The Real Sin of Sodom

myfather15 wrote - "Lot offered his beautiful virgin daughters to these MEN and they refused and said send the MEN out, or we will come in and get them!!"

So you had no problem with a man offering his virgin daughters (who would have been extremely young in those days) to these men, but you have a problem because the crowd preferred the men?

Amazing.

Anyway, if you a do little research you will see that the real sin of Sodom was pride, not homosexual behavior. Their sin of pride and arrogance was so detestable to God that he destroyed them. They were inhospitable and inhumane to visitors and turned a blind eye to the poor.

Un-educated Christians love to use Lot's story as an inaccurate judgement against homosexuality, but the truth is much different.

If you look at some of the original Jewish texts, it is written that Sodom would bring visitors before corrupt judges, strip them naked of their valuables and send them on their way. There were very wealthy people in Sodom and the poor were treated like animals - ridiculed and tortured. People were dismembered regularly. Sodom had laws that would impart death by burning to anyone who helped the poor. Their depth of cruelty toward the poor and needy was unmatched in the world.

THAT is the sin of Sodom.

Ezekiel 15:49-50
"Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy. They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen."

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RMSHEFF 07/07/13 - 03:41 pm
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Spectra

All the bad you mentioned in your first post pales in comparison to the Evil of 54,000,000 abortions of which you support.

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RMSHEFF 07/07/13 - 04:08 pm
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Please don't twist Holy Scripture to fit you need.

Verse 50 reads " Thus they were haughty and committed "ABOMINATIONS" before Me. Therefore I removed them when I saw it.

verse 49 said because of these sins ""Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.

the appearance of term abominations and how it is differentiated from the inhospitality and heartlessness of the inhabitants of Sodom and Gomorrah ( and in fact is seen as the RESULT of their indolence and pride) takes us back to the issue clearly laid out in Genesis 19. The judgement of God IS directly linked to the commission of "abominations" , the Hebrew word associated with homosexuality in His law (Leviticus 18:22 20:13

carcraft
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carcraft 07/07/13 - 04:35 pm
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Lot was in a tough position,

Lot was in a tough position, he had divine guests in his home and a crowd demanding sexual pleasure from his guests. Lot could not very well turn God's messengers over to be defiled and debased. His choice was to offer some one who he hoped would please the unruly mob. Remember the mob had threatened to enter Lots house by force and take God's messengers. Lot had no defense against a large group of men so he sought to appease them by offering his Virgin Daughter. Rules of the middle east are very different, guests are protected and are not to be harmed. This type of law extends to Afghanistan, because of the Islamic heritage. Tribal elders "invite" American service men to live in the village. The protection of the elders helps consolidate relations between outlying villages and the coalition forces. Coalition forces receive protection from the village elders. The Rub is you do not get to pick your quarters etc. How ever it is clear from the story of Lot that perversion was rampant since the mob was more interested in raping, sodomizing and sexually debasing males rather than females. I would not judge Lot to harshly for trying to protect his guests with all he had!

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carcraft 07/07/13 - 04:41 pm
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In India, under the cast

In India, under the cast system, higher ranking Hindus can not help the "untouchables". The untouchables have a miserable earthly life because Karma from a past life have condemned the poor and miserable to the life they are now living. This type of thinking is not limited to the middle east! Even today we look down on others because it makes us feel more secure. When I was in Nursing school a million years ago ulcers were thought to be caused by stress in a type A personality. We would never get ulcers because we didn't live the type A stress life. Well low and behold, seems a little bacteria is the culprit and I can get ulcers just as easy as any one else. So much for our being judgmental in our scientific quests!

myfather15
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myfather15 07/07/13 - 05:00 pm
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Exactly where are you reading? Ezekiel chapter 15 only has 8 verses, so there would be no 49-50.

RMSHEFF; there is no such thing as "Holy scripture" to these people, so they may twist it and turn it anyway they see fit!!

Again, refusing to accept the obvious!! Which was Sodom was overan with homosexuality!! They will pay for their intentional misleading of people on scripture, it will happen!!

RMSHEFF; also remember SCRIPTURE is what Satan tempted Christ with on the mount, except he would do the same, just change a word or two, which made the entire scripture lose it's meaning!!

InChristLove
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InChristLove 07/07/13 - 05:31 pm
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Specsta, you used your own

Specsta, you used your own scripture to prove that homosexual behavior was a major sin in Sodom and Gomorrah and one of the reason why God destroy her.

Ezekiel 16:49-50
"Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy. They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen."

Specsta, yes they were haughty and what are these destestable things before God Almighty. Homosexual behavior.

As for Lot offering his virgin daughters.....yes I think this was a major sacrifice to this father but it was far better than allowing harm to come to the Lord's angels. Lot knew who these "men" were and they were under his protection. Just as Abraham was willing to sacrifice Issac to the Lord, Lot was willing to sacrifice his daughters if it meant obeying the God of Heaven.

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RMSHEFF 07/07/13 - 05:39 pm
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Yes ,he switched the word abomination for the word detestable. There are 3 words in Hebrews indicating the highest degree of abomination one is `ebhah. This word is used many times in Scripture but never used to describe the sins listed in the verses Specsta quoted below:

" Anyway, if you a do little research you will see that the real sin of Sodom was pride, not homosexual behavior. Their sin of pride and arrogance was so detestable to God that he destroyed them. They were inhospitable and inhumane to visitors and turned a blind eye to the poor.

Ebhah or abomination is used with the sin of homosexuality and Scripture tells us that The judgement of God is directly linked to the commission of "abominations" and not to being inhospitable.

I have heard all the arguments including "Jesus never condemned homosexuality". It is sad that folks will go to such lengths to avoid calling sin, sin. We all sin and all need God's grace and mercy and He is faithful to forgive us if we ask and repent.

myfather15
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myfather15 07/07/13 - 06:14 pm
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Specsta

If you're insinuating that I'm ok with child molestation and not ok with homosexuality; you can take your opinion and......Oh well, let me stop there.

So, how do YOU know they would have been extremely young? Is it not possible they were 17-20 years old? Yes, it absolutely is possible, but that wouldn't fit your attempt at bashing me. So, should we blindly believe you that these daughters were "extremely young"? Because that's what most liberal want, is people to blindly believe every word they spout!!

So, I'll wait for your evidence the daughters were extremely young.

myfather15
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myfather15 07/07/13 - 07:13 pm
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Ooh, I see; just give a

Ooh, I see; just give a thumbs down and don't attempt to prove your allegations!! Well, there is a chance that thumbs down was one of your other liberal buddies who can't prove what you claimed either!!

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Bizkit 07/07/13 - 09:01 pm
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18:22 Thou shalt not lie with

18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. (Leviticus 18:22 KJV)[1]
20:13 "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them." (Leviticus 20:13 KJV)[2]
Now that said some "scholars" say the real sin of Sodom wasn't trying to rape these dudes (angels) and sexual deviation but inhospitality and social injustice. Occam's razor would argue for the former rather the later. I don't know why people make such a big deal about homosexuality specifically-it doesn't mention don't smoke dope or do drugs directly either-but I'm pretty sure abusing them is a sin-definitely not growth or improving strategy-no mention of abortion either yet it has been around as long as recorded history. Slavery is mentioned but mainly as just a predicament of life and no social judgment or negativity is mentioned-but I'm pretty sure enslaving people is a sin and definitely not a great idea or way to treat people. Hey the Bible just doesn't pick on homosexuals either it gives heterosexuals a rough time too-about fornication, adultery, marrying out of faith, polygamy-monogamy, just ole lust-like ole Jimmy Carter let on about. So there is "heterosexual sin" and the Bible isn't discriminating and just picking on homosexuals. So we got lust, rape, bestiality, incest, homosexuality, adultery, and prostitution as sin. Now necrophilia isn't mentioned but I'm pretty sure, besides disgusting, it is a sin-just as pedophilia isn't mentioned either. Yikes. The Bible is an equal opportunity provider for sin.

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myfather15 07/07/13 - 09:03 pm
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"-it doesn't mention don't

"-it doesn't mention don't smoke dope or do drugs directly either"

Oooh, I must disagree.

Many places in the Bible it talks about drug pushers and addicts.

Jeremiah 27:9 "Therefore hearken not ye to your prophets, nor to your diviners, nor to your dreamers, nor to your enchanters, nor to your SORCERERS, which speak unto you, saying, Ye shall not serve the king of Babylon:"

Malachi 3:5 "And I will come near to you to judgment; and I will be a swift witness against the SORCERERS, and against the adulterers, and against false swearers, and against those that oppress the hireling in his wages, the widow, and the fatherless, and that turn aside the stranger from his right, and fear not me, saith the LORD of hosts. "

Revelations 21:8 "But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and SORCERERS, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death."

Sorcerers are drug dealers and addicts!! The actual hebrew and greek meaning is, one who provides or uses a "spell giving potion" which is exactly what the harder drugs are. Now, in my opinion; I don't think marijuana would fall in this, as it isn't a combination of different ingredients, making a potion.

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