Immigration 'reform' a joke

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The U.S. Senate recently passed immigration “reform,” or what many rightfully call “amnesty.” The Senate apparently was willing to legalize these immigrants, allowing them to remain in the United States with a promise to strengthen border security at a later date. What the House will do and the final outcome is yet to be seen.

The United States needs immigrants. What we no longer need are borders that are nothing more than lines on a map that are open for crossing by persons unknown.

To illustrate how absurd these “reform” discussions are, imagine that you’ve just returned to the United States from a trip abroad and you’re standing in line, passport in hand. Now imagine what would happen if you decided to forgo coming face-to-face with Border Patrol or the Transportation Security Administration. You look for a way to circumvent this security to re-enter the country, and in the process you are caught. What would you expect to happen?

Here you are, an American citizen with every right to return home and you find yourself imprisoned and awaiting trial for your illegal efforts. And you do not find this unexpected.

Why, then, does anyone believe it OK for an unknown foreigner to do the same? Yes, they may be coming here for the good of their family or noble reasons. Then again, they may be drug runners or terrorists. We don’t know. Why would anyone just throw up their hands and say, “We don’t know who you are, but here are your papers. Have a nice day”?

You hear commentators say, “Well, you’re not going to deport 11 million people.” This is the view of progressives and many conservatives. The question, however, is: Why not? Let’s enforce the laws we already have.

No, we’re not going to empty the country of 11 million people overnight, but we can start. It will take years and no, we will never catch them all, but we can do what every sovereign nation has a right to.

The recently passed Senate bill called for doubling the number of Border Patrol agents to nearly 40,000. Perhaps we should only increase the number of agents slightly and procure buses instead.

What about the children of illegal immigrants? The Supreme Court has found that children born on U.S. soil are U.S. citizens; therefore, they can stay. We should deport the illegal immigrants and allow them to decide whether to take their children with them.

Doing this will surely discourage others from illegally crossing our borders. It also will make room for the millions of people who wish to immigrate here legally, and who wish to assimilate beneficially to the country.

And on that note, perhaps we should use a little more care with whom we allow to immigrate here legally.

The Obama administration recently said it will allow 9,000 Syrian refugees into the United States because of the unrest there. Hopefully, each one will be carefully scrutinized to ensure we don’t find ourselves locking down another major U.S. city as we search for more “infidel-hating” welfare recipients who have brought harm to us.

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Young Fred
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Young Fred 07/05/13 - 01:00 am
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"...with a promise to

"...with a promise to strengthen border security at a later date."

And why exactly should any sane person believe that? That's just one of many promises we're expected to believe.

When the president signs a law passed by congress, I personally view it as a contract between government and the governed. How many times has government reneged? And how often are they held accountable for that breach of contract?

Government, with their allies in media and pop culture, think they can simply sway the uninformed into supporting their reneged promises. Perhaps they can, for a time. Sooner or latter, they'll break one promise too many.

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Bodhisattva 07/05/13 - 05:39 am
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Who's hiring all of the immigrants?
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It's certainly not the government. Immigration will never be fixed because big agribusiness doesn't want it fixed. Legal employees would have rights and that's bad for the bottom line.

nofanofobama
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nofanofobama 07/05/13 - 06:38 am
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there has always been

there has always been provisions for seasonal workers in agriculture. and it is the govt...republican and democrat,.its just accelerated under the obumler..hows this...lets just enforce the laws on the books now...starting with the completition of the fence..the verfication of employment for all...one time warning then fines..and then make all able welfare recipents take those jobs that were doner by illegals..dry up the jobs..dry up the welfare state for ilegals...they will go home...no new laws for obumler and holder to ignore or selectively enforce...

GnipGnop
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GnipGnop 07/05/13 - 08:07 am
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This ranks right up there with gun laws....

They go on record as passing tougher laws but never have to answer as to why the existing laws (which I might add were just as good if not better than the ones they add) are never enforced. Then when election time comes they bombard us with television ads about how they tried to make tougher illegal immigration laws...or how they are tough on crime because of the gun legislation they supported. Sadder than that though, is the uninformed believe everything they see on television because they are raised in a education environment that tells them that the government should decide their morals not their parents.....

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RMSHEFF 07/05/13 - 09:05 am
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Bod

I agree with you for once. My senator Lindsey Graham supported and sponsored this bill because he was told to by his big donors. We the people, the ones that put them in office, are being ignored. On the other hand, democrats see this as job security and a guaranteed voting block. Both sides have joined to the detriment of our country.....special inerest and self interest have one the day.

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RMSHEFF 07/05/13 - 09:11 am
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They have never actually

They have never actually tried to enforce the immigration laws we have now. Why would anyone think that suddenly they would start enforcing the new laws. Remember what happened when Arizona tried to actually enforce current law.....they were sued by Obama to stop!

deestafford
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deestafford 07/05/13 - 10:00 am
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Let's get something straight:

Nobody has a RIGHT to immigrate to this country. Just because things maybe bad economically and/or politically in their home country and better here does not give them a RIGHT to come here.

No one should be allowed to immigrate into the US unless they can prove they will not be a burden on the country, have a sponsor willing to take responsibility for them, and they have some skill which can benefit the US.

As stated by some of the commenters, the government makes little attempt to enforce the laws we know have and show no real inclination to do so in the future. The recently pass action by the Senate is a joke and any senator who voted for it should be voted out of office because it does not have the best interest of the US in it. All I heard was how it would benefit the immigrants. Not one word on what allowing tens of millions of low educated, low skilled people would do to the country.

LEGAL immigration should be the only way someone can be legally in this country and become a citizen.

We can thank Ted Kennedy for his 1965 law which opened the flood gates of low skilled, third world immigrants into the US. Another legacy of the "great" Kennedy clan.

There are many non-Mexican immigrates, Islamists, coming across our southern border with the intent of doing us harm.

Go to www.theycomeamerica.com for great information about how serious the illegal immigration problem is and how the Islamists are using it to infiltrate into the US.

t3bledsoe
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t3bledsoe 07/05/13 - 10:20 am
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Here we go again

It is super beyond my understanding as to WHY ULTRA-CONSERVATIVES refuse to acknowledge that illegals pick our food, clean our motel rooms, and do just about ALL OF THE JOBS that Americans will not do !!

deestafford
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deestafford 07/05/13 - 10:35 am
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Yes illegals may do those things but that does not make it

right. There are legal ways for people to brought to this country to work in these positions. If you go to where these jobs are you will find there are legal people doing these jobs. Saying they will be done only by illegals is a cop out to not enforcing the laws.

Also, there are people in the US who will do those jobs. Granted, the government hand outs have put many people in the welfare hammocks who once did those jobs. If the strings of the hammocks were cut they would do those jobs again.

If we have to pay more for the gathering of the farm crops it would raise the price of produce in the stores minuscule amount because the cost of the field labor is a small portion of the overall cost of the process from farm to market.

Conservative Man
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Conservative Man 07/05/13 - 11:16 am
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Immigration reform...

...is nothing more than an attempt to "legalize" 11 million potential democrat voters....period.

itsanotherday1
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itsanotherday1 07/05/13 - 11:18 am
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Bledsoe, they are also laying

Bledsoe, they are also laying brick, installing roofing and siding, hanging and finishing sheetrock, painting and framing; basically every trade in home construction that doesn't require licensing.

Gonna tell me that Americans won't do those jobs? Baloney! Builders use them because they are cheap. They are cheaper because they work sunup to sundown until the job is done. Time is money in the construction business. Legal American workers won't/can't work those hours without abiding by labor laws governing overtime, etc.

Red Headed Step Child
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Red Headed Step Child 07/05/13 - 11:56 am
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Wonder if all these folks

Wonder if all these folks will have to pay the $680 the folks who come here LEGALLY have to pay to gain citizenship....that would be a nice chunk of revenue on the millions that are here illegally they are proposing amnesty for....

If they don't have to pay - then I don't think the folks who are currently doing things the RIGHT way should have to pay either...just sayin'.

Gary Ross
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Gary Ross 07/05/13 - 12:13 pm
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Lets hear from those who know

I'd like to hear from the border guards who are currently trying to keep order and control, giving their lives in the process. They certainly have a story to tell. Why would we trust anything this current administration would tell us, especially after that Fast and Furious disaster and Obama calling executive privilidge to hide the facts.

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paul v balducci 07/05/13 - 01:14 pm
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Immigration Reform needed now

For those of us who try to obtain both temporary and permanent immigration benefits from U.S. Citizenship & Immigration Services, for our clients who file petitions based on family, employment, and investment, I can tell you reform is needed now. It takes years of waiting for visa numbers and spending thousands of dollars to apply for immigration benefits. If employers and relatives were actually allowed to petition for foreign workers/relatives in a sensible way, we wouldn't need an amnesty. We need to bring back 212(c) waivers so that immigration judges can actually have some discretion in deportation cases. We need to increase visa numbers for employment based immigration. The visa numbers for H-1b visas (temporary professional worker) for the entire fiscal year were used up in 1 week. It takes 10 years or more to get an employment based green card. Still think our immigration system deserves your loyal support?

As long as there is a demand for foreign labor in this country people will find a way to get here. The key to enforcement of immigration laws is not a fence. Biometric social security cards with electronic verification for all employment with huge fines ($50,000) for noncompliance would do it. Biometric social security cards would probably result in far more self-deportations than any border, port or other interior immigration enforcement.

I confess myself mystified at the heartfelt devotion so many people have for the Immigration and Nationality Act. Talk to someone whose application for disability benefits gets denied. It's funny how less interested in the law they become. What part of legal don't you understand?

t3bledsoe
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t3bledsoe 07/05/13 - 01:45 pm
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paul v balducci @ 1:14

"As long as there is a demand for foreign labor in this country people will find a way to get here. The key to enforcement of immigration laws is not a fence."

You said it correctly. As long as there are employers that will hire illegals, you can forget making the boarder secure !!

t3bledsoe
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t3bledsoe 07/05/13 - 01:53 pm
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itsanotherday1 @ 11:18

"Gonna tell me that Americans won't do those jobs? Baloney! Builders use them because they are cheap. They are cheaper because they work sunup to sundown until the job is done."

I truly believe both legals and illegals HAVE A MUCH better work ethic than most Americans !!

deestafford
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deestafford 07/05/13 - 02:09 pm
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paul v. balducci

You are so right as to the expense and time it takes for someone to come here legally. I have heard of all types of horror stories by the people who go through the hoops to come here legally.

Then the politicians act like they are doing something heroic by setting up a process of instant legalization and the paying of a "fine" that can be a $100 down and then payments stretched out over years. All of which can be waived by the Sec of Homeland Security. The passing of the background check and the learning of English is also a joke.

What kind of background check is going to be run on someone raised and lived in the mountains of a Central or South American country? How
many people are going to be hired to run these checks?

As far as the English requirement goes, that is a joke also. They don't have to learn to speak English only that they "comprehend" it.

And guess what? Those requirements can be waived by the Sec of HS.

No politician has said what will happen to the people who don't pay the fine or don't "learn" English. Deport them? Don't make me laugh...they are in the "shadows and we can't deport all of them." according to the current BS coming from DC

The people who are trying to go through the front door legally are the ones who deserve to be upset.

Little Lamb
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Little Lamb 07/05/13 - 03:00 pm
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One at a time

We may not be able to deport all of them. But we can deport all we catch. A journey of a thousand miles begins with one step.

Conservative Man
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Conservative Man 07/05/13 - 03:24 pm
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As to the "Fence vs. Penalties " idea..

...Agree mostly....To stop employers from hiring "cheap" i.e. illegal labor..if the penalties were harsh and stiff enough NO businessman in his right mind would WANT to hire someone here illegally...But to say a fence is not needed in the short term is just as crazy....The only "comprehensive" reform needed is to enforce current immigration laws AND pass legislation making it cost prohibitive to hire illegals...
But with the current leadership on the left who wants amnesty in order to have 11 million new democrat voters and the leadership on the right who wants to appear benevolent, neither of these things will happen..
Once again common sense is thrown out the window and politicians will win while the country loses..

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gargoyle 07/05/13 - 04:33 pm
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The laws on the books are

The laws on the books are harsh enough to discourage but are not enforced. Look around, many company's policies seem to be claim ignorance while setting up plausible deniability in hiring practice. They claim they don't understand the TIN or I-9 laws at the same time looking the other way if a employee submits ID that won't pass . If one wants to find the scale of the problem ask the SSA what they do when duplicate numbers are submitted, you won't like the answer

gargoyle
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gargoyle 07/05/13 - 04:36 pm
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A Jeff Foxworthyism

If you can get arrested for hunting or fishing without a license, but not for entering and remaining in the country illegally — you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots

chascushman
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chascushman 07/05/13 - 05:09 pm
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'If you can get arrested for
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'If you can get arrested for hunting or fishing without a license, but not for entering and remaining in the country illegally — you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots"
That should be liberal idiots. Oh I guess that is a oxymoron.

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specsta 07/05/13 - 05:31 pm
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You're Worried About The Wrong Thing

I seriously wonder why there is a faction of US citizens who hate immigrants so much. What are you so worried about? There are a ton of unauthorized immigrants in the US - it would be prudent to give them complete amnesty instead of coming up with brain-damaged ideas like ACES' comment - "We should deport the illegal immigrants and allow them to decide whether to take their children with them."

This is just plain 'ol mean and hateful.

But why expect anything different from right-wing conservatives, who believe that everyone is trying to take something from their greed-encrusted hands.

Immigration is a minor issue. Give amnesty to those who are already here and create a simpler process for those who want to be citizens. Done.

Now how about we concentrate on the corrupt criminal justice system, homelessness, out-of-control military spending, criminal banking practices and our sorry educational system?

gargoyle
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gargoyle 07/05/13 - 05:57 pm
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specsta; We already tried

specsta; We already tried that amnesty thing in the 80's how did that work out . I know government wouldn't lie to us twice, would they?

Red Headed Step Child
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Red Headed Step Child 07/05/13 - 06:38 pm
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Yeah, I can see how expecting

Yeah, I can see how expecting someone to come to a country LEGALLY would be greedy...

Little Lamb
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Little Lamb 07/05/13 - 09:16 pm
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Protection

Responding to the notion that illegal immigrants should be deported when discovered and arrested, specsta commented:

This is just plain 'ol mean and hateful.

Governments are supposed to be mean and hateful when dealing with lawbreakers. That is because governments are supposed to be protecting the law-abiding.

Darby
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Darby 07/05/13 - 10:20 pm
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Anytime the government tries to put anything

over on the people with the word "comprehensive" in its title, run, don't walk to the nearest exit.

Comprehensive gun reform, comprehensive health care reform, comprehensive welfare reform, comprehensive immigration reform, etc., etc., etc.

It's just a way of saying; "Folks we don't have a clue in the world as to what needs to be done, but we can make you think we do."

KSL
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KSL 07/06/13 - 02:54 am
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Bledsoe, why wouldn't

Bledsoe, why wouldn't illegals have a better work ethic as long as Americans are lazy [filtered word] people who can sit at home and collect benies worth more than the lowest of the working class?

KSL
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KSL 07/06/13 - 02:57 am
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Why don't we be as mean and

Why don't we be as mean and hateful as, say Mexico?

chascushman
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chascushman 07/06/13 - 08:46 am
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"Now how about we concentrate
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"Now how about we concentrate on the corrupt criminal justice system, homelessness, out-of-control military spending, criminal banking practices and our sorry educational system?"
Thank you so much for your analysis of the Obama administration.

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