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Recently in Florida, a group of atheists unveiled a monument to their unbelief in God to sit alongside a slab that lists the Ten Commandments in front of the Bradford County Courthouse. This is the result when Christian-elected officials are not sincere about their faith. They talk Christianity, but legislate like atheists. They are all things to all people, and stand only for contributions and re-election.

Because of their duplicity, Christian political leaders have capitulated to the ungodly demands of non-Christian constituents. President Obama recently issued a proclamation to honor homosexuality for a month. Augusta Mayor Deke Copenhaver recently issued a proclamation to honor homosexuality for a day. Marriage and the Boy Scouts have been perverted.

Now, every ungodly and lawless segment of society will demand to be officially recognized and honored. This is what happens when good Christian men become weak and spiritually compromised. Say goodbye to the United States of America. Say hello to the United States of Sodom and Gomorrah.

Kevin Palmer

Martinez

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burninater
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burninater 07/04/13 - 04:30 am
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Oh Kevin, you've got your

Oh Kevin, you've got your fairy tales all mixed up!

It's actually now the United States of Space Unicorns, Leprechauns, and Crocodiles with Clocks in their Tummies!

On a broader note, I have to say it is with keen interest that I watch the drooling, rabid dogs begin to turn on one another.

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soldout 07/04/13 - 09:23 am
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good letter

Good letter Kevin and so true. Jesus said it would get this way near the end and things are becoming like the days of Noah. The problem with most Christian leaders is they just have religion and are not living a spirit filled life that is full of power. Once a Christian is led by the spirit and seeing the power of it the world has nothing to offer to distract them. Jesus said we could do greater works than He did and so few grasp that. The Holy Spirit will lead us into all truth and show you things the highly educated non-believer won't figure out for 50 more years. When you look around at the alcohol dependent and drug and money controlled folks you see how bad life becomes without Jesus. Fellow Christians; model the Christian walk, be full of peace and faith and use the power Jesus died to give you and save all you can. Call things sin and don't concern yourself with being liked. Remember Jesus probably wouldn't make it 33 years today is this society. Ask the Lord for the infilling of His Spirit and Tell Him you want all there is to have.

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soapy_725 07/04/13 - 07:46 am
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"we will obey God's Laws" - - MLK Jr.
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It is a choice. Money or God.

Jon Lester
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Jon Lester 07/04/13 - 07:49 am
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Some of the Founders

would ask you why you ever thought this is a Christian nation, when they never intended to establish any such thing.

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TrukinRanger 07/04/13 - 07:57 am
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The only "christian leaders"
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The only "christian leaders" are leaders of your churches... they're on every corner in the south. They are NOT meant to be legislating their religious views into law. That is why we have separation of church and state.

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Bodhisattva 07/04/13 - 08:33 am
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All they had to do was take

All they had to do was take down the monument of the 10 commandments. The issue then would have been moot. If you're willing to allow government property to be used to support one religion, then it becomes open to all or to none. Mr. Palmer will really have a hissy once a monument to The FSM is unveiled.

soldout
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soldout 07/04/13 - 08:36 am
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Christian roots

This nation has strong Christian roots and you see it in every document by those leaders. They didn't establish a religion but did base everything they wrote on Christian principles. We see foolish things being done today and that it is easy to understand. The Bible says the "fool" has said there is no God so; "fools" do foolish things that end up hurting themselves. Sinners sin and suffer for it while Christians sow good seed and receive joy, peace and prosperity and get to live forever with the creator of the universe who loves them beyond belief. Show me a deal better than that!

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RMSHEFF 07/04/13 - 08:36 am
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Jon

They did hope for a moral and religious people but we all know a fish rots from the head down.

We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. . . . Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other. ----- John Adams

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myfather15 07/04/13 - 09:03 am
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Jon Lester

The Founding Father's didn't want government establishing a STATE MANDATED religion. Why? Because they knew as GOD knows, love and obedience must be given by FREE WILL or it is NOT true love and obedience!! They also realized those that choose with their FREE WILL, not to follow a certain religion, should NOT be punished, plain and simple!! But you guys will twist and turn the meaning, trying to confuse people on the "Seperation" issue!!

BUT, having said that; 85% of the people in this Country still call themselves Christian in one form or another; so I would say that pretty much says the government may not be Christian, but the PEOPLE are!! I believe THIS is what sends athiests into a rage, because it's FACT!!

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RMSHEFF 07/04/13 - 09:11 am
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poor syfredick

Our concern is for those that don't know God because we see what awaits them. Those that have been deceived by satin. Those that call good, evil and evil ,good. They have been blinded. I have to remind myself that some will never see the truth( John 6:44) No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; We will continue to pray for you and others that your eyes will be opened and you will be drawn to Christ otherwise you cannot see.

myfather15
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myfather15 07/04/13 - 09:12 am
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The problem actually is that

The problem actually is that most people are "religious" and are NOT realists!! God is a REALITY, not a religion!! We KNOW from His word and his presence in our lives, that he is real!! There is MUCH evidence of His hand on this earth and our personal lives. But, most people trot off to Church on Sunday's and play "Religious" because it's the SOCIAL thing to do. Neighbors and people they grew up with, might think bad about them if they don't go. Actually, most people I know actually feel guilt if they miss a Sunday, even if they were at the bar on Saturday night!

Trust me; you can NOT con God and He is not happy with these people who "Play Church".

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faithson 07/04/13 - 09:12 am
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welcome to America, home of the brave...

grin and bear it... the ship of social change has left the harbor, no goin' back to the dock. Time for everyone's voice to be heard in the halls of Justice, where She keeps a blindfold on for exactly the reasons Mr. Palmer finds so offensive.

myfather15
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myfather15 07/04/13 - 09:28 am
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Honestly, I can't help but

Honestly, I can't help but sit here sometimes and think about what athiests are going to do when that day comes, and they see Him coming? When they then realize He is a reality and they didn't just lack faith, they actually worked AGAINST Him.

The Bible says at that time they will come to Him, obviously trying to con Him as they always do and say "I loved you and worked for you."

The Bible also says He will say "Depart from my presence, I NEVER KNEW you!!"

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pearlthesquirrel 07/04/13 - 09:21 am
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Once again
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Hey look everybody, it's Augusta Chronicle 30 day regular Kevin Palmer. I wonder what he's going to write about - oh yea, he writes about religious persecution 99% of the time. I was disappointed in the Chronicle today. They had three letters.......but what they should have had was three letters from their top three "letters to the editors" contributors - you know, Kevin Palmer, Ed Payne, M.D., and S.G. von Schweinitz......and then the Chronicle could have had a triplicate of religiosity being jammed down all their readers throats. Kind of a Holy Trinity of letter writers......sort of like the father, the son, and the holy ghost kind of a deal..... The Chronicle is slippin' my man, the Chronicle is slippin'..........

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deestafford 07/04/13 - 09:26 am
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Very good letter

I think many Christian leaders are too concerned about offending people than they are about teaching and preaching the absoluteness of being faithful to God and Christ's teaching. A classic example of this is the discussion yesterday as to the admittance of OPENLY gays into the Boy Scouts.

MF15 is right about the Constitution does not allow the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT to establish a state religion. As a matter of fact, if you look at the preambles of the constitutions of the early states they did mention Christianity as the belief of the state. If one reads the writings of the Founders, and not rely on the lies of the naysayers, one would discover they were strong believers in Christ and God. However, they also believed that people should be allowed to worship as they saw fit without any interference from the federal government.

If one wants to really become educated on this issue and not continue to be led around by the nose by the uninformed deceivers, go to www.wallbuilders.com and read David Barton's writings and books. He is perhaps the most knowledgeable individual alive today on the Founding of the country.

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RMSHEFF 07/04/13 - 09:27 am
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Good post, imagine the first textbook used in school were Bibles. How far have we come. Bibles are considered contraband. How many past presidents prayed and called for all Americans to pray to God? To attempt to claim this country was not founded by men of faith and our laws and values not derived from principles found in scripture is to ignore the facts.

myfather15
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myfather15 07/04/13 - 09:29 am
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RMSHEFF

It's not just to ignore the facts, its to LIE; and that is what they do best!!

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soldout 07/04/13 - 09:33 am
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love it

Glad to see Christians speaking out. Life and death are in the tongue (confirmed by Godless science by the way) so please speak out more and more. You live in a world created by words and then you were made in the imagine of God so your words do have power but only when used by someone in authority. Christ gave you the authority to use His name. Blessing and strength to all my Christian brothers and sisters.

myfather15
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myfather15 07/04/13 - 09:36 am
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" the ship of social change

" the ship of social change has left the harbor, no goin' back to the dock. "

I'm afraid you're wrong! The ship will go back to the dock, but it will take one of two ways; Christ's return or WAR!! I prefer the first, which is EXACTLY what I think will happen, but I'm not far from the second either. I know you don't think it can happen, but you're wrong. There is a boiling point to EVERY Country, and I do believe this Country is approaching it, not just with Christians vs Atheists views, but with the way GOVERNMENT is treating it's citizens and becoming more and more socialist/communist!!

RMSHEFF
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RMSHEFF 07/04/13 - 09:47 am
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faithson

That blindfold was taken off MS Liberty about 50 years ago. None greater than the injustice of Marxism and Socialism which seizes (by force) the fruits of one mans labor to give another. Ms Liberty searches to and fro trying find those that don't have equal wealth and redistribute this wealth as she see fit. Once she offered equal opportunity to all but now equal outcome to all.

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rmwhitley 07/04/13 - 10:03 am
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America has
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become the world's melting pot for wimps and sissies.

RMSHEFF
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RMSHEFF 07/04/13 - 10:12 am
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MyFather15, It is difficult

MyFather15, It is difficult to watch "all that is good" being trampled under foot but I must remind myself that those that are hostile to God and His Word can do nothing else. They are enemies of God because they belong to satin. Our war is not against flesh and blood but a war for the truth and our weapon is God's word. We are not called to physical battle against sinners. We must fight the good fight in this war for truth and this is exactly where many believers refuse to enter the fight. The silence is deafening as many Churches see their main duty is to be "liked by the world" and therefore" fear" that God's word will offend sinners.

Romans 8 says: the sinful mind is hostile to God. It does not submit to God's law, nor can it do so. Those controlled by the sinful nature cannot please God.

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

myfather15
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myfather15 07/04/13 - 10:25 am
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RMSHEFF

I agree with you during THIS time, which I believe is the end times. Because during THIS time, the battle is spiritual far more than physical. I DO NOT believe THIS Country will come to another Civil War or that it will be needed. But we are losing the spiritual battles far more often than winning, but THIS too is also foretold us. They lie, distorting truth where is VERY difficult for anyone to know what the truth really is. But THAT is Satan's MO!! He lied about God over and over and they lie about God's children! Because they work for him, some unknowingly, but some knowing exactly what they are doing. They simply do NOT like nor want God's rules and oversight.

myfather15
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myfather15 07/04/13 - 10:28 am
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Someone ask me the other

Someone ask me the other night "Do you really think Christ will return in our lifetime?" My answer was "Absolutely." I was then asked why I think this. The answer is long with many different reasons. First and most important is the "Parable of the fig tree" which Christ told us to learn in Matt 24, Mark 13 and Luke 21. It has to do with Israel becoming a Country again in 1948. This generation shall not pass away until all things are fulfilled.

But think about this, Christ is our Savior, correct? Yes, He is our personal Savior but what else shall he save us from at the end? All throughout history, Freedom has fled from oppressive governments. It's the reason Israel fled Egypt and other Middle Eastern Countries in Biblical times. It’s the reason the pilgrims fled to a new land, later called America. Freedom has fled and fled and fled, again and again and again. President Ronald Reagan said "If we lose freedom here, there is no place to escape to. This is the last stand on Earth." President Reagan was right. If we lose freedom here, it’s over. There is no new land for which freedom can flee. In the 1700's, 1800's and even most of the 1900's, we still didn't know if there were any new lands on earth. With today’s technology, we can now see every single island in the world, no matter how small. There is NO place for freedom to escape too.

In Revelations Chap 12 the woman clothed with the sun and moon fled to a "wilderness" prepared for her. That woman is God's people, also mother freedom. Ever wonder who the Statue of Liberty actually is? She IS the woman of Revelations 12. The woman is Freedom; the wilderness is the USA, which was prepared for her. This is the last stance. You might not want to face it, but we are losing our Freedom in America. Communism is a disease that spreads and spreads, devouring everything in its path. It has followed her here to this great Nation and is now consuming. We have always needed our Savior, there is no doubt about that, but we need Him now more than ever! There is nowhere left to flee, so we shall depend upon our Savior and He shall NOT let us down.

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duffstuff 07/04/13 - 10:48 am
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just a few thoughts...

First off my biggest problem with this atheist monument is the condescending attitude it takes toward religions faith. It's clearly taking an insulting tone and that's not right in my opinion.

That being said I don't have a problem with the general idea of other faiths, or lack there of, being represented outside of a court house if it has something to do with implying justice. Do the ten commandments really fully represent our governing laws anyways? when you read all of them, most not only aren't enforced legally, but some actually go against some of the legal principals we stand for as a country. Like...Do not have any other gods. Well we can't enforce that because it goes against freedom of religion. In fact there's only two commandments that we truly enforce legally and that's...Do not steal, and do not murder. We've never enforced the other commandments legally because of the freedom that this country stands for and quite frankly I think thats a good thing. Why shouldn't other beliefs be allowed to be represented outside a court house? A. that's a public arena and B. We've never enforced most of the ten commandments in the area of law anyways.

Btw I know some of y'all don't like to hear what I just said, but it's true. We've never enforced the ten commandments by our system of law even in the beginning and even before this quote unquote "moral unraveling" of America.

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Bizkit 07/04/13 - 10:41 am
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Well we do have a secular

Well we do have a secular government but people ignorantly assume that means it is atheists. The govt is secular to protect religious freedom of "all" religions or the lack of it. So you could argue that removing religious related monuments that are already present is supporting atheism-which the govt isn't suppose to support any particular ideology related to religion or the lack of it. The govt allowing these old relics of the past isn't supporting a particular religion but supporting generic religious freedom. You can argue too The Ten Commandments are truly a jewish faith relics as Christ raised the bar on all the commandments. We would deface all the monuments in DC if we were to remove all mention related to faith.

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RMSHEFF 07/04/13 - 10:49 am
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Loosing spiritual battles

Loosing spiritual battles .....yes...but the war was won 2000 years ago. We can rest in this knowledge that the victory is secure. This verse describes precisely where many churches are today....they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires. I am always amazed at the perfect accuracy of Scripture....but I guess I should not be.

2 Timothy 4 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but {wanting} to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires.

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myfather15 07/04/13 - 10:56 am
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deestafford

Speaking of wallbuilders!!

You're probably familiar with this, but read Ezekiel Chapter 13, where it speaks about some build up a wall and other daubed it with untempered morter. Which basically is saying that some built a strong wall and others replaced it with white wash (i.e. drywall, or weak material). Those that built the WALL are the Founding Fathers, those who are daubing it with untempered mortor are those trying to radically change this Country. Those saying the Constitution is outdated!! Those saying America is NOT exceptional!! America IS exceptional because America is God and God is America!!

duffstuff
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duffstuff 07/04/13 - 11:06 am
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Btw just to be clear I do

Btw just to be clear I dont believe in silencing anyones beliefs. There are some good arguments to be made however about the use of religious speak and symbolism in certain public areas. Public schools is a tricky area. Like for example, If one of my kids teaches was a muslim, I wouldn't want her spouting religious rhetoric to my child, nor would I want her being allowed to put up religious symbols in her classroom. Public schools are paid for with tax dollars and is not a private institution so freedom of religion would have to either be fully allowed without discrimination or there would have to be a rule that said teachers cannot push any particular religious ideology because of the nature of what public school is. I'd rather have the religious teaching be left up to me. I'd feel more comfortable knowing my kid isn't being fed that, at all at school unless of course I enroll him/her into a private school where I know what is being said or pushed religiously.

myfather15
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myfather15 07/04/13 - 10:59 am
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RMSHEFF

I'm always amazed as well, when I know I shouldn't be; don't feel alone. :)

I've used that same scripture many times, one of my favorites, but they are all my favorites.

When you understand scripture and the symbology used by our Father, there is absolutely NOTHING that he hasn't told us about. He uses symbology so that WE may FEEL the emotion that He feels. How amazing is our FATHER!!!

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