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Each day brings new revelations about the invasiveness of our government into our private lives. Polls tell the story that our citizens not only mistrust our current government, but by a large majority, now fear that government – and rightly so!

These egregious things that have been foisted upon us did not start with the ill-conceived law called Obamacare, but it is a good example of the arrogance these people in government possess. Practically no one wanted it, but it was crammed down our collective throats anyway by Democrats acting on behalf of the Obama regime.

There are more recent revelations of misbehavior – namely discrimination, harassment and intimidation against some of our citizens simply for their political beliefs, as well as lying to Congress and the American people! Members of the administration use secret email accounts to avoid their behavior being found out by the FBI or Congress. Most egregious is that American citizens have been spied upon by having their telephone conversations unknowingly monitored, and their Internet communications invaded without their knowledge or permission. The government has seized telephone records of journalists and tapped their telephone conversations.

These are but a few of the instances in which our Constitution and our personal freedoms have been ignored and trodden upon by the Obama administration!

There is, in Congress, a small body of men and women standing up and trying to stop these intrusions. Without their respect for the law and the Constitution, we would soon pass from citizen to subject. Having been born into a free society in a great and free country, I feel compelled to protest those who would change it – especially those who do so in a surreptitious manner against the will of the people, the Constitution and the law!

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RMSHEFF
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RMSHEFF 06/24/13 - 09:05 am
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Tyranny

A slow steady march toward complete tyranny.

deestafford
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deestafford 06/24/13 - 09:56 am
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I'm not sure things will change unless we get strong

Conservatives in charge of the House and the Senate and a very strong Conservative as President. And, to be honest, I'm not sure we will ever do that because there are too many low information and no information people who vote. Right now I don't see on the horizon the strong Conservatives we need to lead this movement to majority.

We have a complete void of history and its lessons in the populace today. So many think anything that happened before they were born was irrelevant and useless to them.

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 06/24/13 - 10:43 am
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I guess we now know what
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I guess we now know what Obama meant when he said you should punish your enemies.

t3bledsoe
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t3bledsoe 06/24/13 - 02:01 pm
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"There is, in Congress, a small body of men and women standing up and trying to stop these intrusions."

I will guess that the writer is talking about The Tea Party. I don't understand The Republican Party at all when it comes to the Patriot Act ! The Patriot Act was Bush's Act ! Why do the Republicans want to act like The Patriot Act is Obama's Act and why lambast the fact that Obama sees its continuation as being important !!

LillyfromtheMills
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LillyfromtheMills 06/24/13 - 02:25 pm
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T3

You're going to drive me to drink hahaha - Bush started it, Obama expanded it!

t3bledsoe
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t3bledsoe 06/24/13 - 03:49 pm
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"Practically no one wanted it, but it was crammed down our collective throats anyway by Democrats acting on behalf of the Obama regime."

With 47 million Americans without health insurence, why can't "Obamacare" be seen as a human way to provide health insurence to ALL OF AMERICANS !

t3bledsoe
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t3bledsoe 06/24/13 - 04:01 pm
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"The government has seized telephone records of journalists and tapped their telephone conversations."

Again, Bush's Patriot Act ! Enough said !!

t3bledsoe
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t3bledsoe 06/24/13 - 04:10 pm
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"Most egregious is that American citizens have been spied upon by having their telephone conversations unknowingly monitored, and their Internet communications invaded without their knowledge or permission."

Do ANY conservative Republicans ( Tea Partyers ) not understand that this is the way The Patriot Act IS FOLLOWED !!

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Humble Angela 06/25/13 - 07:38 am
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Obama has shown that he will
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Obama has shown that he will not enforce laws he doesn't believe in, ie DOMA, why isn't he doing the same with the Patriot act? Because HE EXTENDED it. It is HIS law now. Obama signed the extension.....he didn't have to. Blaming Bush at this point makes you look silly.

As for Obamacare....if people couldn't afford insurance before, what makes you think they can afford it if you force them to buy it? I guess if you make home ownership mandatory, then there will be no more homeless......same logic.

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Humble Angela 06/25/13 - 07:40 am
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T3bledsoe...do YOU not
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T3bledsoe...do YOU not understand that if Obama had not signed the Patriot Act, that there would be no Patriot Act? Why do you refuse to hold him responsible for what he has done?

chascushman
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chascushman 06/25/13 - 08:25 am
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'Why do you refuse to hold
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'Why do you refuse to hold him responsible for what he has done?'
HA, why are you surprised?

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 06/25/13 - 08:06 am
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Can't fix it?
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Can't fix it?

dahreese
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dahreese 06/25/13 - 09:50 am
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HA is right about this,
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HA is right about this, "Obama signed the extension.....he didn't have to." (Although her housing and health insurance comparison to the spying is wrong).

Seems to me, however, that we are at a moment of introspection, i.e., when the Patriot Act was passed, how many of you protested it at that time?

I would suggest that those of you who swallowed the GWB war also swallowed the GWB passage of the Patriot Acts.

Most of this spying was cleared in the Patriot Act.

The only thing that was not ready at its passage was the means to do the actual spying that is now in use.

You'll have to go back farther than Obama if you want to point to any blame.

And the blame starts with you for being so easily swayed.

"We'll know our disinformation program is working when everything the American people believe is wrong."

William Casey (CIA director at first staff meeting).

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 06/25/13 - 10:58 am
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"Seems to me, however, that
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"Seems to me, however, that we are at a moment of introspection, i.e., when the Patriot Act was passed, how many of you protested it at that time?"

I for one DID protest, unlike the countless Democratic Senators and Congressmen that you seem to be giving a pass.

"You'll have to go back farther than Obama if you want to point to any blame. "

Really? You mean we can't blame the person who said he would stop it, but didn't?

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 06/25/13 - 11:08 am
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"Although her housing and
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"Although her housing and health insurance comparison to the spying is wrong"

Explain.

dahreese
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dahreese 06/25/13 - 12:24 pm
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"Really? You mean we can't
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"Really? You mean we can't blame the person who said he would stop it, but didn't?"

I think I just did; "HA is right about this, "Obama signed the extension.....he didn't have to."

But you're always so anxious to "prove it" you don't comprehend what you read. (And I've said this before about your anxiousness of jumping the gun, and this is just another example of that).

That said, when has there been a time on here when you blamed, or criticized, GWB for the passage of the Patriot Act in the first place?

No doubt you can "prove it?"

(And that said, AC will cut me off here before too long and I'll have to wait another time to go on with this discussion. It's not a matter of "running" from you or any other poster).

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 06/25/13 - 01:20 pm
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So you didn't mean it when
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So you didn't mean it when you posted "You'll have to go back farther than Obama if you want to point to any blame. "?

And the AC won't "cut you off" if you just ante up.

As for Bush passing the patriot act, that was well before I ever started posting here. If you simply scroll up on THIS page you will see that I DO criticize him for the original passage though.

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 06/25/13 - 01:21 pm
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"Although her housing and
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"Although her housing and health insurance comparison to the spying is wrong"

Explain.

dahreese
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dahreese 06/25/13 - 01:24 pm
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"So you didn't mean it when
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"So you didn't mean it when you posted "You'll have to go back farther than Obama if you want to point to any blame. "?"

You misread that, too.

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 06/25/13 - 01:58 pm
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Misread? I cut and pasted it
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Misread? I cut and pasted it verbatim. How do you logically debate with someone who claims that they didn't say the very words that they said?

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dahreese 06/25/13 - 06:42 pm
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It is 'hard' to debate with
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It is 'hard' to debate with someone who cut and pasted the words , but didn't READ what was said.

"You'll have to go back farther than Obama if you want to point to any blame. "

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 06/26/13 - 07:35 am
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I read the line, and in that
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I read the line, and in that line YOU said that you have to go back farther than Obama to point ANY blame. Why can't we point blame at the person who promised to change, yet didn't. And you never explained why you said I was wrong in my analogy.

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 06/26/13 - 08:09 am
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"You'll have to go back
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"You'll have to go back farther than Obama if you want to point to any blame. "

Please explain how this means something other than "You'll have to go back farther than Obama if you want to point to any blame. "

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dahreese 06/26/13 - 01:38 pm
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"Please explain how this
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"Please explain how this means something other than "You'll have to go back farther than Obama if you want to point to any blame. "

Do you really believe all of this spying started with the Patriot Act and GWB? (And I've made it clear I do not support Obama's position).

It means "How much do you really want to know?"

It means you haven't done your homework.

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Humble Angela 06/26/13 - 02:44 pm
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I didn't say it started
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I didn't say it started recently. I'm saying that the Obama administration is responsible for what is happening NOW.

If someone starts a fire in a grill next to your house, then someone comes later and knocks it over and catches your house on fire, are you going to tell me that I have to blame the guy that started the fire in the grill and I can't blame the guy that knocked it over? What YOU said is this: (notice the quotes) "You'll have to go back farther than Obama if you want to point to any blame. " That sentence implies that Obama gets NO blame. You frequently start off saying you don't agree with something Obama does in a 4 or 5 word sentence, then follow it with a paragraph about how someone else did it first so it's not that bad. It is so typical and most of us are tired of it. It's called rationalizing.

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