Who gave order to not defend U.S. mission?

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The No. 1 duty and obligation of the U.S. military is to protect and defend the homeland.

All embassy properties are considered part of the homeland.

When the Benghazi property was attacked last September, U.S. military personnel were on-site.

An official in Washington, D.C., ordered the military to stand down, and not defend the Americans who were being attacked at the embassy consulate.

Four Americans, including the ambassador, were killed in the attack.

The nation was never told which high-level official specifically ordered the military to not do their job. The families of the four Americans – who died without being defended – deserve to know who gave that deadly order. All U.S. military, be they active-duty or retired, and their families are entitled to know who ordered military personnel in Benghazi to violate their oath to protect and defend.

Instead, American citizens are now subjected to talking points and political double-talk. We are being told that our brave men on-site were told not to fight because it was too dangerous.

We are told that fighter planes were not deployed because they were too far away, when they were actually in Tripoli, ready to go, and could have arrived in minutes.

This is gravely serious! Brave American Navy Seals were ordered to abandon their duty posts. Pilots were told not to join the fight to save our people. We deserve to know who gave this abominable order.

Jane Kenny

Bluffton, S.C.

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Bodhisattva
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Bodhisattva 05/26/13 - 10:39 am
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Obviously many people have no

Obviously many people have no idea what the terms Marxist and communist truly mean. It is handy to have labels that are taken to be offensive to tag your your opponents with every time you mention them. This makes others who have no idea what the terms mean, only that they're bad, come to associate the two. It works well on people who are incapable of thinking for themselves. That's why it's a tactic used so frequently on Fox News and right wing talk radio. The hosts rely on the viewers/listeners thinking they have a clue of the meaning and they know there's no way the vast majority is going to fact check anything they say so it just reinforces the pre-existing notions of the viewer/listener, no matter how wrong they may be. It's always comforting knowing that there's someone else out there that knows that wrestling is real, no matter what the naysayers claim.

allhans
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allhans 05/26/13 - 05:21 pm
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Bo

Bo

Bodhisattva
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Bodhisattva 05/26/13 - 10:55 am
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They'll have have to put it

They'll have have to put it aside for a while anyway. I'm sure it's way past time for a bill to stop the Affordable Care Act or another Get Government Off Women's Backs and Into Their Uteri bill.

ekharonne
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ekharonne 05/26/13 - 11:09 am
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Coming from the usual gang of

Coming from the usual gang of posters and their use of hyperbole to describe the Obama administration, to say "we know one when we see one" is simply an example of the kind of sophomoric reasoning that the rest of us can come to expect from the crowd that follow the Right Wing editorials(day after day, week after week) of this paper.

Ms.Anthrope
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Ms.Anthrope 05/26/13 - 01:03 pm
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see my 8:43am post and read this
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as I said.... Ambassador Stevens could have had all the security he wanted.... but.....what was he thinking?????
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/late-benghazi-ambassador-turned...

carcraft
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carcraft 05/26/13 - 01:09 pm
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I gave a list of what was

I gave a list of what was known about the attack on the embassy. I will admit that maybe forces could not have been there in time. That still leaves a bunch of issues that need to be uncovered. The most egregious being who failed to beef up security. But as the former Secretary of State said "what differance does it make now?" Well other than 4 people dead, the American people lied to, CIA facility destroyed, an embassy destroyed, not a bit of differance Ms Clinton!

Ms.Anthrope
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Ms.Anthrope 05/26/13 - 01:33 pm
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read this....
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http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/05/12/us-usa-behghazi-idUSBRE94B0B12...
"Meanwhile, Former Defense Secretary Robert Gates, a Republican who served in Obama's Democratic administration, told CBS' "Face the Nation" it would have been "very difficult, if not impossible" to rescue the U.S. embassy officials and said he would have not have approved such an operation.

"To send some small number of special forces or other troops in without knowing what the environment is, without knowing what the threat is, without having any intelligence in terms of what is actually going on the ground, I think would have been very dangerous," Gates said.

"It's sort of a cartoonish impression of military capabilities and military forces" to think the United States could have mounted a rescue, Gates said.

It would have been risky just to send in a military jet to try to scare off the insurgents, "given the number of surface-to-air missiles" on the loose in Libya, he said."

Ms.Anthrope
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Ms.Anthrope 05/26/13 - 01:42 pm
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H. Clinton said....
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"What difference does it make?" in regards to the anal fixation that the republicans have on whether the attack was a result of the video or a result of Libyan insurgents..... either scenario..... the end result was the same...... the ambassador and three others were killed.... and solutions for improving security and hopefully avoiding another diplomatic murder should be what both republicans and democrats are cooperating to enact. The republicans keep up their semantics games..... even when Obama called it an act of terror in the rose garden press conference. Even the "party of no" should agree to fund security at embassies better...... will they?

carcraft
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carcraft 05/26/13 - 01:45 pm
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Well if there was no one to

Well if there was no one to send and jets couldn't get there what was the point of Gates statement? Apparently people were there and jets were available so who gave the stand down order and who was running the show?

carcraft
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carcraft 05/26/13 - 01:48 pm
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Well if there was no one to

Well if there was no one to send and jets couldn't get there what was the point of Gates statement? Apparently people were there and jets were available so who gave the stand down order and who was running the show?

carcraft
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carcraft 05/26/13 - 01:50 pm
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An unnamed official says

An unnamed official says Stevens turned more security down when letters and personnel said he wanted more?

Ms.Anthrope
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Ms.Anthrope 05/26/13 - 01:50 pm
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Well if there was no one to
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Well if there was no one to

Well if there was no one to send and jets couldn't get there what was the point of Gates statement? Apparently people were there and jets were available so who gave the stand down order and who was running the show?

Ms.Anthrope
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Ms.Anthrope 05/26/13 - 01:56 pm
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so when will
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Issa subpoena army general Carter Hamm and ask him about the security offers? let me guess............ never..... LOL
in GOP we trust............ I believe !!!!!

KSL
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KSL 05/26/13 - 01:59 pm
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TSD to all of your posts,

TSD to all of your posts, misanthrope.

Ms.Anthrope
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Ms.Anthrope 05/26/13 - 02:24 pm
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good luck with....
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good luck with your LDS , KSL
LOL

chascushman
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chascushman 05/26/13 - 02:28 pm
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“Obviously many people have
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“Obviously many people have no idea what the terms Marxist and communist truly mean.”
Bod, I agree it seems you are correct so many have no idea because they support them then deny they are one of them. In the 60s & 70s the communist used young ignorant white girls, like Obama’s mother, to seduce black men into joining the communist party.

KSL
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KSL 05/26/13 - 03:18 pm
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carcraft
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carcraft 05/26/13 - 03:58 pm
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Ms.Anthrope, Please tell me

Ms.Anthrope, Please tell me who was lying, Gates who said the situation on the ground was to risky for jets and an attempted rescue or the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff who said there were no jets or personnel who could have launched a rescue attempt?

IN GOVERNMENT WE TRUST?

KSL
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KSL 05/26/13 - 04:04 pm
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LDS

Thanks, ms, but I have no problems with my long distance service. LOL

Truth Matters
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Truth Matters 05/26/13 - 04:11 pm
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Benghazi

Thanks Ms. Anthrope and Bodhisattva for your numerous rebuttals to this continuous claim that somehow the administration is solely at fault for the loss of lives in Benghazi.

Other distortions include Rep. Issa's claim on Meet the Press that Ambassador Pickering would not testify before his committee. Well, Ambassador Pickering was sitting on the wings and corrected that falsehood right there on the air. Issa is not to be trusted; no wonder he does not want the Ambassador to testify publicly___I guess so Issa can then further distort the facts.

One would hope that on the eve of Memorial Day, the conservatives who continue in this blame game would show the dignity of honoring the dead with a search for the truth and not just a way to rally their troops for 2014 & 2016.

I recommend that if you have not done so, that you throw away your GOP talking points and read the unclassified report. Especially the recommendation that calls on Congress to provide funding for security for locations such as Benghazi.
http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/202446.pdf

Ms.Anthrope
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Ms.Anthrope 05/26/13 - 05:23 pm
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and thanks KSL
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for the Truth & Smarts Denotation for my posts.....
p.s. it really is a hoot what LDS really means.....LOL

KSL
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KSL 05/26/13 - 05:10 pm
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Well, it can stand for over

Well, it can stand for over 60 different things and counting.

Ms.Anthrope
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Ms.Anthrope 05/26/13 - 05:24 pm
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yeah.... go figure
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acronyms......

carcraft
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carcraft 05/26/13 - 05:38 pm
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I raised 12 points in my10:59

I raised 12 points in my10:59 post what isn't true?

carcraft
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carcraft 05/26/13 - 06:17 pm
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Why won't this administration

Why won't this administration honor the dead by being truthful about the circumstances of those killed in Bengahzi? Oh I know, in words of Madam Secretary Clinton "What differance does it make now! "

KSL
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KSL 05/26/13 - 06:37 pm
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Hope & Change

I hope the truth comes out and changes any hope she has of running for potus.

KSL
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KSL 05/26/13 - 09:38 pm
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I am quite totally sure that

I am quite totally sure that there are many of you out there who believe Bush and repubs can be totally capable of evil doing, but the totally honorable dems/libs/progressives are totally above reproach because you think they are looking out for you.

KSL
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KSL 05/26/13 - 09:44 pm
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They totally are not

Explain to me please why the expenses the Pres has had these during his years have gone up so much while more people have gone on the eqiv of food stamps.

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dichotomy 05/28/13 - 08:43 am
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"even if the facts show

"even if the facts show otherwise...... "

The FACTS, as we manage to pry them out of the cold, dead hands of the Democrat cover-up, are showing that most of the suspicions the Republicans have are true.

There WERE assets that could have been there in the first 2 hours of a 7 hour attack. Doesn't matter if no one used the exact words "stand down"....what matters is that no one used the word "GO". It DOES MATTER that the administration knowingly LIED to us about it being a demonstration when it was really a TERRORIST ATTACK.

It DOES MATTER that this COVER-UP, in conjunction with the IRS ILLEGALLY TARGETING conservative groups, may well have affected the outcome of a presidential election.

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