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We must stand up for moral values in our country. The three great Abrahamic religions of Judaism, Christianity and Islam prohibit homosexuality, and it is an abomination.

The Torah is the primary source of Jewish law. It states: “(A man) shall not lie with another man as with a woman, it is a toeba (abomination)” (Leviticus 18:22). The stated punishment for willful violation is the death penalty.

According to the Bible’s Romans 1:26-27: “Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.”

The Islamic Quran, in 26:165-166, says “What! Of all creatures in the world, do you approach males and leave the wives your Lord created for you? Nay, but you are a people transgressing.”

These are very clear commandments against homosexuality, and punishments can be expected in this life and a sure penalty is waiting in the hereafter, according to the three religions. We must strive to overcome this behavior and help people to correct their stance.

The three great Abrahamic religions are based on the worship of one God without any form of partnership, and brings discipline among human beings to live in peace, harmony and love. The division created by homosexuality behavior induces differences, which may lead to irreligious behavior and disunity, breaking the discipline that has built this country to be a great nation.

I.A. Jilani

Augusta

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karradur
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karradur 05/12/13 - 11:49 pm
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@Augusta Chronicle Editorial Staff

As I asked before, when you published a similar letter to the editor, why do you do this?

Is it because you agree with Mr. Jilani and believe homosexuals should be punished (and I assume he is implying the punishment should be death)?

Is it because you seriously think the biggest problem this city has is guys sleeping with other guys, or girls sleeping with other girls?

Is it because you like to make your homosexual/bisexual readers, both young and old, feel really damn uncomfortable and unwanted when they open their local newspaper? Or readers who are heterosexual but supportive of homosexuals/bisexuals?

Is it because you like it when children in our own city kill themselves for being homosexual?

Is it because you want to make sure nobody ever thinks that anyone working for the Chronicle might not be heterosexual?

"But we're just publishing what our readers want to talk about."

What if I wrote a letter to the editor about how I feel black people are genetically inferior to white people and that they should pray to God that they turn white, or else they should be executed?

Would you publish that?

"But there is no proof that homosexuality is a choice."

Yet you have absolutely no proof that a magical man in the sky's biggest priority in a world of seven billion sentient life-forms is that guys don't sleep with other guys, and you have no problem publishing letters arguing this position.

"But we support all viewpoints and want a lively discussion."

Some people have the viewpoint that the Holocaust didn't happen. Let's have a "lively discussion" about that.

"But it's in the Bible and our newspaper supports Biblical truth."

The Bible also says that pi is equal to 3, that the Earth is flat, and that women shouldn't talk without permission from men.

Please, defend publishing this. I can't wait to hear what you'll come up with.

karradur
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karradur 05/12/13 - 11:52 pm
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@Everyone else that will inevitably criticize/"thumbs-down" me.

When did you choose to be straight?

Tell me about when you were a child and you consciously decided to be sexually aroused by the opposite gender.

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specsta 05/13/13 - 02:15 am
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Interpretation

The way "religious folk" make such a fuss about homosexuality, one would think that this lifestyle was the worst of the worst in the Bible.

Yet, right alongside the old Testament laws, we find some interesting things.

Deuteronomy 25:11-12; "If men get into a fight with one another, and the wife of one intervenes to rescue her husband from the grip of his opponent by reaching out and seizing his genitals, you shall cut off her hand; show no pity."

Ouch. Do you think a man wrote this law or that this was a big issue for God?

Or what about "No one whose testicles are crushed or whose penis is cut off shall be admitted to the assembly of the Lord." Deuteronomy 25:1

I guess if you had an accident at the factory you're just out of luck.

Then what about Leviticus 19:28; " You shall not make any gashes in your flesh for the dead or tattoo any marks upon you: I am the Lord."

Get ready for the fire and brimstone, you tattooed folks.

And here's a whopper - Mark 10:11-12; "And He said to them, 'Whoever divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery against her; and if she herself divorces her husband and marries another man, she is committing adultery."

Yikes! So if 50% of all marriages end in divorce, that's a whole lot of adulterers wandering around. But we don't hear too much about that from the pulpit - do we?

Then let's throw in the laws against wearing polyester, against eating shellfish, against Moe-type haircuts, against women wearing braided hair or gold jewelry - and the list goes on.

Folks need to understand that the most important thing is their own personal relationship with God - and how that relationship helps them live a better life. The Bible is an inspiration to us, not a handy paper-bound brick to use in an arsenal of condemnation. Everybody is different and relates to God in different ways.

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carcraft 05/13/13 - 04:39 am
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Did we forget, "as in the days of Noah.."

Did we forget, "as in the days of Noah so shall it be when the Son of man returns"? I do believe Noah was mocked also......What two people do in the bed room is their business. The problem is that they want everybody to celebrate their unseemlyness. Read an article about a couple of guys on a gay cruise that got arrested for buggery. Not all the world is tolerant of this nonsense. Nonesense it is to . In California if two gays get married and they can't get pregnant, they can get fetility councleing...

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WalterBradfordCannon 05/13/13 - 05:15 am
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This selective literal

This selective literal reading of the bible is absurd. For example, you can make a similar strong case that women are slaves. They are slaves first to their fathers, then to their husbands. They are considered as property in biblical times, and in the bible. The biblical law on women is very strong, far stronger than the case on homosexuality. Yet no thinking person today would advocate that the role of women in society return to slavery. We know many things now that people did not know in biblical times. Women are as smart as men - and in an industrialized computer age, are worth as much in the workplace as men.

As to homosexuality and the bible, there is a similar case to be made. We understand far more about the biological origins of homosexuality than were understood 2000 years ago, and that knowledge MUST inform our morals and values. Otherwise we are stuck in the stone ages.

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InChristLove 05/13/13 - 05:28 am
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karradur stated "As I asked

karradur stated "As I asked before, when you published a similar letter to the editor, why do you do this?"

Because it is their paper and if you find it so distressing, then may I suggest that you stop reading or blogging and find something more to your liking. There are many days I find letters published that I totally disagree with or find totally ignorant but I can choose to harp on it, complain about someone else opinion, or I can move on to the next article. You arent' the only one reading the paper karradur.

GAD, how do you know that " jilani's grand kids will read this and just think about their shame and embarrassment." They may be Godly people and follow the Word of God as Jilani does. You may SMH all day long but you have no idea what God prefers unless you are His Child (which I seriously doubt based on your comments).

Specsta, there is really no comment that can be made here because you are so uninformed where Holy Scripture is concerned and with anything that pertains to laws and covenants for the Jewish people and the New Covenant. It's really rather sad because it has been explained time and again on here and your heart, head and ears are still shut up.

specsta stated "Everybody is different and relates to God in different ways." This goes directly against this God and Bible you so inefficiently boast about in your comments.

You are correct, everyone is different, but you are so wrong about everyone relating to God in different ways. There is only one way to relate to God and that is through obedience. You can read the Word of God and THINK you know what it says on surface but unless you have the Holy Spirit to guide you, you have no idea what His Word truly says. It takes studying, prayer, and listening.....which by your comment you have done none.

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palmetto1008 05/13/13 - 05:37 am
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Absolutely NOTHING new to see
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Absolutely NOTHING new to see here. Same thing week after week. Time to move on.

InChristLove
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InChristLove 05/13/13 - 05:45 am
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The Bible also says that pi

The Bible also says that pi is equal to 3, that the Earth is flat, and that women shouldn't talk without permission from men.

The Bible does not:

In reference to pi....It has been alleged that the Bible is in error because it teaches that pi is equal to 3. Recall that pi is the ratio of circumference to diameter in a circle. And even most young students know that pi is not exactly equal to three. It is often approximated as 3.14, though the actual decimal expansion goes on forever: 3.141592653589793. . . . It is not difficult to measure the diameter and circumference of a circle to confirm that pi does indeed have this value. So, is the Bible in error?

The relevant passage is 1 Kings 7:23, which states “Now he made the sea of cast metal ten cubits from brim to brim, circular in form, and its height was five cubits, and thirty cubits in circumference.” This verse describes a cylindrical vessel built at the order of Solomon.

First of all, notice that this passage does not say “exactly ten cubits” or “exactly thirty cubits.” The numbers have been rounded to the nearest integer (or possibly the nearest multiple of ten). Dividing the circumference (30 cubits) by the diameter (10 cubits), we infer that pi is approximately equal to three. But, of course, pi is approximately equal to three, so the passage is quite correct.

For further explanation
http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/2009/06/08/contradictions-as-ea...

As for your claim that the Bible says the Earth is flat.

Some Bible critics have claimed that Revelation 7:1 assumes a flat earth since the verse refers to angels standing at the “four corners” of the earth. Actually, the reference is to the cardinal directions: north, south, east, and west.

In the Old Testament, Job 26:7 explains that the earth is suspended in space, the obvious comparison being with the spherical sun and moon.

A literal translation of Job 26:10 is “He described a circle upon the face of the waters, until the day and night come to an end.” A spherical earth is also described in Isaiah 40:21-22—“the circle of the earth.”

For further explanation
http://www.christiananswers.net/q-eden/edn-c015.html

As for women not talking without permission from men.....this was only in the church and women were suppose to discuss spiritual issues with their husbands (can't do that today because most husbands don't attend church and many single women and mothers today) This did not imply that women were slaves or less than men. It was a hierarchy in religious order leadership. Women were allowed to teach children and other women so your implication that women were slaves according to scripture is untrue.

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InChristLove 05/13/13 - 05:46 am
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Yes palmetto.....same old

Yes palmetto.....same old lies from those who have no clue about Holy Scripture but wish to use it to spread lies.

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Riverman1 05/13/13 - 05:48 am
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If it's in the Koran, that makes it true?

If it's in the Koran, that makes it true?

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TrukinRanger 05/13/13 - 06:08 am
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Looks like controversy has
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Looks like controversy has been slow so they decided to throw one of these letters in to stir up people. Soon a letter about abortion will be in here as well. It's just another letter to try and spread hatred in the name of God. In human history there has been more death and destruction in the name of religion, religions that advertise love.

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angedelune 05/13/13 - 06:12 am
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Hey, here's something... not all of us are christian

I don't quite understand how some people can be so blatantly hypocritical and have to re-assert their "morality" upon others week after week after week against homosexuality. It's even more disturbing due to the fact that, "it has nothing to do with you." Let's get one thing clear, I'm not a christian therefore I don't have to live by your Bible and word of your god, so therefore your religious arguments are invalid. If i'm wrong at the end of my life, then that's on me, not you, now let me live my life how I feel, it's not affecting you in any way. You can try and throw bible passages at me all you want, but as show by others, we can throw just as many back at you that show how much of a sinner everyone is, so stop singling out a specific group you don't agree with. I don't see you spear-heading any projects to get divorce banned in any states.

Also, let's get another thing clear, I'm in love very very much in love with a wonderful guy, we go on dates, we live together, we have a dog, we play video games together, we make artwork for/with each other, we laugh and smile and cry and get mad and make up and make love like any regular couple. Just because our genitalia match and we can't make children (which we don't want) don't try and tell me our love isn't worthy of the same recognition as a straight couples. Don't tell me I can't get married just because you don't like it or think it appropriate. Don't tell me i'm wrong with living my life the way that makes me happy (whether it be genetic or a choice, that's another debate). I don't try to make laws or rules to stop you from freely living your life the way you wish, because if you have to use "morals" and "values" as a means to take away rights from others then you probably have no morals or values. Jews don't eat pork here in this country, but no one is trying to ban it's production. I'm sure not having bacon would make a lot of people unhappy. Point is, if you don't agree with something that is not harmful then you DON'T DO IT, YOU DON'T TRY AND TAKE AWAY THE RIGHT FROM OTHER PEOPLE.
When you post these types of articles, really, what is your main goal? Are you trying to convert people from homosexuality? Well, A). that's not going to happen, and B). you are just making them mad. Are you saying to yourself "Oh, well if I just post this people will see it and see how against evil I am and the lord will be very happy with me." That good sir or madam is the very pinnacle of vanity. Which the last time I checked was also a sin. Maybe you are saying to yourself, "I just hate homosexuals, and maybe if we start a movement we can have the practice punished by law or we can start killing them." Well that's also not going to happen, so you are stuck with us regardless, so you might as well learn to get along with people that aren't like you.

The times are changing and in 30 years your grandchildren/great grandchildren will look at you with the same pity as that racist grandfather we all had growing up and say "oh, well he's just from a different era." How can I be so sure of this, my love and I hold hands and hug and it is OBVIOUS we are together when out in public, and truth be told younger people our age come up and say "hey, that's really great to see, especially here in Augusta." We've had one problem, just one time, with a couple that looked to be in their 40's whom decided they were going to say something out loud and negative. To whom which we smiled looked directly at them and then proceeded to hold each other closer. They continued to verbally harass us until another couple told them they needed to quiet down and mind their business. To us they are just words and it brings us closer together. The harder you fight to keep us from getting married or try and debase our love, the harder we are going to fight against you and the deeper and more passionate our love will become.

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Humble Angela 05/13/13 - 06:15 am
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"As I asked before, when you
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"As I asked before, when you published a similar letter to the editor, why do you do this?

Is it because you agree with Mr. Jilani and believe homosexuals should be punished (and I assume he is implying the punishment should be death)?"

karradur...they do it for the same reason they publish Greenbaum's endless letters. Because they are a fair editorial staff.

WalterBradfordCannon
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WalterBradfordCannon 05/13/13 - 06:33 am
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@ICL, it could not be more

@ICL, it could not be more clear than in the bible that women are to be considered property and slaves of men. I can get into chapter and verse if you like. Even today, the Southern Baptist Convention uses this to make a "policy statement" that women are to be "submissive servants" to their husbands.

Ephesians 5:22-24: Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.

Exodus: When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again.

1 Corinthians 11:3:But I want you to understand that the head of every man is Christ, the head of a wife is her husband, and the head of Christ is God.

1 Timothy 2:11-14: Let a woman learn quietly with all submissiveness. I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet.

1 Corinthians 11:8-9: For man was not made from woman, but woman from man. Neither was man created for woman, but woman for man.

Titus 2:3-5: Older women likewise are to be reverent in behavior, not slanderers or slaves to much wine. They are to teach what is good, and so train the young women to love their husbands and children, to be self-controlled, pure, working at home, kind, and submissive to their own husbands, that the word of God may not be reviled.

1 Corinthians 14:34-35: The women should keep silent in the churches. For they are not permitted to speak, but should be in submission, as the Law also says. If there is anything they desire to learn, let them ask their husbands at home. For it is shameful for a woman to speak in church.

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Humble Angela 05/13/13 - 06:31 am
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I personally think it is a
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I personally think it is a waste of time to use the Bible as evidence when arguing with someone who doesn't believe in the Bible. But that's just my opinion.

InChristLove
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InChristLove 05/13/13 - 06:33 am
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angedelune, Wow...who said

angedelune, Wow...who said anything about everyone being a Christian? Topic of discussion so far has been concerning whether it was right for the AC to print a letter about homosexuality in THEIR paper. No one has said you can't be gay.....go for it, but if someone post incorrect meaning on biblical scripture then I am going to call them out. You are free to be gay, you are free to live or love another male, you are free to go about your life however you wish but DO NOT state that Holy Scripture does not condemn homosexual behavior.

As for all the other junk you posted? That's your opinion and thankfully I don't agree with it.

InChristLove
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InChristLove 05/13/13 - 06:36 am
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Got for it WBC.....you can

Got for it WBC.....you can quote chapter and verse all day long but do you know the meaning of the scripture. I seriously doubt it. I do not have time to further this discussion but will be back later this morning to continue this discussion with you.

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deestafford 05/13/13 - 06:38 am
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"It doesn't hurt anyone and I'm not trying to push it on other

people" is a comment heard many times by the pro-homosexual community which at the most is 3% of the population not the 10% Kinsey is credited with. Well, homosexual advocacy does impact on others as evident by the leftist push to make it "normal" such as allowing openly gay people to serve in the military and gays in the military to marry. To see a female general standing in a receiving line with her "wife" showed the depths to which the morality of the military had sunk.
The left has turned the military into a social experiment and it is detrimental to its mission of protecting the country.

One comment about the future generations accepting homosexuality may have a ring of truth to it since it is indoctrinated in children beginning in the earliest grammar school grades that homosexuality is OK. The only ones who will not accept it are the ones reared by God-fearing parents who teach them that homosexuality is abnormal and unnatural.

If homosexuality is not wrong because "people should be able to live their life as they want" why not having more than one wife and what about marrying your kin? Those who do those things "are not hurting anyone. They are just want to be with the one they love."

angedelune
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angedelune 05/13/13 - 06:42 am
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InChristLove, Wow... Read the what I wrote

I addressed why I thought it was wrong for people to write stuff like this which in turn covered it's printing in the paper. Also, the flow of the conversation had already changed away from that point to various scriptures, re-read the entire discussion.
I never said that the scripture didn't condemn homosexuality, I pointed out that the scripture is blatantly against things we consider normal now, but again no one is spearheading an effort to ban divorce.

As for my "other junk" I don't care if you agree with my opinion, no one asked you to. Just remember like I said, people are going to view you in the same light they do their racist grandparents later on in life.

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karradur 05/13/13 - 07:00 am
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http://chronicle.augusta.com/

http://chronicle.augusta.com/news/metro/2013-01-24/family-friends-rememb...

Maybe next time, a kid like Jerad Meriweather won't choose an abnormal, unnatural lifestyle.

I guess he got what he deserved according to the Bible.

angedelune
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angedelune 05/13/13 - 07:00 am
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well... deestafford

If homosexuality is not wrong because "people should be able to live their life as they want" why not having more than one wife and what about marrying your kin? Those who do those things "are not hurting anyone. They are just want to be with the one they love."

The bible is just full of instances of men having multiple wives, plus your mormon brethren seem to like to adhere to that. It also has many instances of incestuous relationships. Lot and his daughters to name one.

http://www.ncsl.org/issues-research/human-services/state-laws-regarding-...

That's a link to all of the states that allow marriages between first cousins.

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Bodhisattva 05/13/13 - 07:16 am
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If we were a theocracy it

If we were a theocracy it might amount to a hill of beans. We are not.

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scoopdedoop64 05/13/13 - 07:16 am
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Why?

Is it really necessary to go through all this debating over the subject again and again and again and again. It is old news. No I don't agree with homosexuality, yes I believe it is a sin, yes the Bible speaks against it. But as long as people are determined to live a life separate from Christ then these things will be. If you really want to read a good story on the subject check out Rosaria Champagne Butterfield. She wrote a book called, The Secret Thoughts of a an Unlikely Convert. This woman was a liberal College professor and a lesbian. She tells how God saved her soul and how she turned away from the lifestyle of homosexuality only after she had a relationship with Christ. You can find her on youtube also. She is now married to a Presbyterian minister. God can deliver us from ourselves.

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nofanofobama 05/13/13 - 07:24 am
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karrader...asks...when did

karrader...asks...when did you choose to be straight?.AT BIRTH..i will answer that GOD thru nature made me a male with all the bodily characteristics of a man...with that comes the compatability to the female gender to unite and procreate...its a wonderful gift...to goe AGAINST that natural process and wonderful gift is when YOU make that desicision... its going against the instruction book that innate to our species...

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Humble Angela 05/13/13 - 07:36 am
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Hmmmm..... When do pedophiles
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Hmmmm..... When do pedophiles choose to be pedophiles? When to polygamists choose to be polygamists? Interesting.

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jic 05/13/13 - 07:39 am
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Just remember
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None of the commenters and undoubtedly, no one on the Augusta Chronicle staff are ordained and qualified to interpret scripture or preach it. The Chronicle has never actually presented multiple "sides" from an objective, journalistic perspective by interviewing either scientists, or named religious authorities. The paper may have a "right" to print what it wants, but its journalistic ability is childish, inflammatory and ignorant disinformation and is far more dangerous to the public than any lgbt could hope to be. No wonder Georgia and South Carolina continue to be laughing stocks to rest of the country. Sid Mullis is the only writer worth reading.

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RMSHEFF 05/13/13 - 07:46 am
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WBC is just like all

WBC is just like all progressives that attempt to discredit Scripture by quoting selected scriptures out of context or not citing the following verse. God does have very different roles for women but they were to be cherished , protected and valued by their husband. Please stop misusing the Word of God.

Proverbs 31 [a]A wife of noble character who can find?
    She is worth far more than rubies.
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Her husband has full confidence in her
    and lacks nothing of value.
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She brings him good, not harm,
    all the days of her life.
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She selects wool and flax
    and works with eager hands.
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She is like the merchant ships,
    bringing her food from afar.
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She gets up while it is still night;
    she provides food for her family
    and portions for her female servants.
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She considers a field and buys it;
    out of her earnings she plants a vineyard.
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She sets about her work vigorously;
    her arms are strong for her tasks.
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She sees that her trading is profitable,
    and her lamp does not go out at night.
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In her hand she holds the distaff
    and grasps the spindle with her fingers.
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She opens her arms to the poor
    and extends her hands to the needy.
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When it snows, she has no fear for her household;
    for all of them are clothed in scarlet.
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She makes coverings for her bed;
    she is clothed in fine linen and purple.
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Her husband is respected at the city gate,
    where he takes his seat among the elders of the land.
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She makes linen garments and sells them,
    and supplies the merchants with sashes.
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She is clothed with strength and dignity;
    she can laugh at the days to come.
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She speaks with wisdom,
    and faithful instruction is on her tongue.
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She watches over the affairs of her household
    and does not eat the bread of idleness.
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Her children arise and call her blessed;
    her husband also, and he praises her:
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“Many women do noble things,
    but you surpass them all.”
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Charm is deceptive, and beauty is fleeting;
    but a woman who fears the Lord is to be praised.
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Honor her for all that her hands have done,
    and let her works bring her praise at the city gate.

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karradur 05/13/13 - 07:50 am
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http://chronicle.augusta.com/

http://chronicle.augusta.com/news/crime-courts/2013-01-26/slain-aiken-of...

Maybe next time, a woman like Master Cpl. Sandy Rogers won't decide to go against the tide of normalcy and decency and cohabitate in sin with another woman.

As a homosexual, she was incapable of rational decisions, good judgment, or human emotions, and probably should not have been a law enforcement officer.

I guess she got what she deserved, too.

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faithson 05/13/13 - 07:53 am
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best explanation I heard...

this brewhaha over gay rights was put into prespective by one of my favorite sports commentators. You either live in the 60's/70's and have no desire to evolve with the 'people', or you learn to live with all the new and different people who have just as much right to their way of thinking and living as you. Live in the 'codified' past, or in the present, your choice. This issue is so much like the 'separate but equal' issue of old. Keep your predjudice if you must, but please allow those who want to 'move along' their perogatives. Yes, there is much predjudice vieled in biblical terms.

karradur
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karradur 05/13/13 - 07:54 am
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