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Being a licensed gun dealer and supporter of the U.S. Constitution, I would like to clear things up for letter writer Melissa Sherwood (“Gun-bill result sickening,” May 3) of Aiken, S.C. She obviously has fallen for the “facts” that the liberal media tend to spew.

When someone buys a firearm online, it must be shipped to a licensed dealer at the local level. If a handgun is purchased, it must be shipped to a dealer in the same state as the buyer, because handguns cannot be sold over state lines.

The buyer must then go into the local store and fill out the paperwork required by the federal government. This paperwork is known as a Firearm Transaction Record, or a Form 4473. The dealer then calls the information in to the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, and the required background check is completed. If a “proceed” message is received from the ATF, the sale may proceed, and the dealer usually collects a small fee from the buyer for their time.

The same is true at gun shows. There is not a time when a licensed dealer sells a gun at a gun show without conducting the proper and required government background check. The dealer then is required to keep these forms indefinitely and to give access to ATF agents during an investigation which may involve the purchaser or the firearm.

That is how it works, period. A dealer can be prosecuted and lose his or her business if found to be in noncompliance with these simple rules. What the government is trying to do is make sales between private citizens subject to a background check.

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myfather15
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myfather15 05/07/13 - 06:34 am
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Mr. La Pan

Please stop confusing LP's with truth and logic. You saying this, doesn't bode well for their argument that these bills ONLY want to further background checks. They must disguise their agenda as "true" compassion. Remember, Hitler also took his picture with children and said they must "do something" to protect these innocent ones. Did we find out later that he had a hidden agenda? Well, not according to Ahmadinejad; the holocaust actually didn't happen according to him.

They must hide and destroy ACTUAL history and replace it with their own version; because history certainly isn't own their side. History has taught us over and over that governments have been the most oppressive entities in existence. BUT, certainly not to LP's; they believe government should have more control over us citizens. Well, except on the topic of the legalization of drugs, unfettered abortions and recognizing legal marriage; they believe government should stay out of these aspects, imagine that.

Again I will state; gun control has ZERO to do with making us safer. Even the representatives pushing these bills have admitted they wouldn't have prevented a single mass shooting in the past few years; BUT, "We must do something" right? Standing by idle and allowing our children to be slaughtered is cruel and unacceptable, right? But certainly lets not take practical steps to ACTUALLY make them safer, like TRAINING and arming WILLING teachers and principals. No, No, No; instead lets take firearms out of law abiding citizens hands. Does this make sense to anyone who isn't a committed LP? Next, LP's will come up with a miracle to stop residential burglaries; they will require you to lock your house when you leave for work.

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Bodhisattva 05/07/13 - 07:36 am
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Aren't the little right wing abbreviations cute?

While many gun shows have eliminated private sales, only because it cuts down on the profits of people who have paid to have a booth, many still allow private sales outside of whatever facility it is held. The letter somehow manages not to mention this. Sales between private citizens subject to a background check? I suggest Mr. Lapan look up "straw purchase", although as a licensed gun dealer he should already be familiar with the term. Plausible deniability applies.

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 05/07/13 - 07:53 am
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I'm glad you brought up

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I'm glad you brought up "straw purchase." It is already against the law. How is passing a new law going to make someone follow the already existing law?

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 05/07/13 - 08:27 am
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Isn't the left wing's

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Isn't the left wing's condescension and lack of logic or facts cute?

t3bledsoe
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t3bledsoe 05/07/13 - 08:49 am
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HA I had the last word on two stories from yesterday

I haven't read today's LTE's but am sure the arguements will be carbon copies of yesterday !

faithson
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faithson 05/07/13 - 08:50 am
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rest my case

this short video is a case in point on why owners of assualt rifles should be especially vetted to own them. The need for this 'fire-power' in the hands of the average citizen is ludicrious.
http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_t5#/video/topvideos/2013/05/03/dnt-dash...

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 05/07/13 - 08:51 am
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And I will continue to repeat

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And I will continue to repeat them until they are logically refuted. The price of freedom is vigilance.

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 05/07/13 - 08:53 am
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faithson, the reporter

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faithson, the reporter CLEARLY said that the shooter pulled out a semi-automatic rifle, NOT an assault rifle. If the citizens are not allowed to have such fire power, then why would the Police need it? Why do they need more protection than we do?

t3bledsoe
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t3bledsoe 05/07/13 - 09:06 am
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You could use this same agruement about embassey

"If the citizens are not allowed to have such fire power, then why would the Police need it? Why do they need more protection than we do?"

With all due respect to ALL of the dead in these stupid wars, police are paid to "protect and to serve". The average citizen is responsible for their individual safety. Average citizens should nao have assault weapons nor larger magazines.

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 05/07/13 - 09:07 am
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"Average citizens should nao

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"Average citizens should nao have assault weapons nor larger magazines."

Why not?

faithson
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faithson 05/07/13 - 09:10 am
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pray tell

that 'scene' in the video is EXACTLY what those children in Conneticut saw as their bodies were riddled with bullets. Many may be able to jusify their last moments, draped in the constitution... I cannot.

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 05/07/13 - 09:20 am
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Many may be able to use

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Many may be able to use children to rob others of their constitutional rights (tugging at emotions) But I cannot.

t3bledsoe
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t3bledsoe 05/07/13 - 09:20 am
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How's this idea for protecting America !

How about a fully computerized form of gun registry ( spelling ).

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 05/07/13 - 09:21 am
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"that 'scene' in the video is

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"that 'scene' in the video is EXACTLY what those children in Conneticut saw as their bodies were riddled with bullets. "

Really....you were there?

faithson
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faithson 05/07/13 - 09:21 am
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looked like an 'anti-personnel' weapon to me...

the 'fact' that these weapons only, ONLY function is for killing people, seems to go over the head of all these 'constituionalists'. Not sayin' ban, but qualifiing to own one seems pretty reasonable, except for those who ARE, unreasonable. and discussions with unreasonables, are NOT discussions, they are arguments. No time or energy for that.

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 05/07/13 - 09:21 am
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"How about a fully

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"How about a fully computerized form of gun registry ( spelling )."

Why?

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 05/07/13 - 09:22 am
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"the 'fact' that these

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"the 'fact' that these weapons only, ONLY function is for killing people, seems to go over the head of all these 'constituionalists'. "

Really.......I've fired 1000's of rounds through very similar weapons and have yet to kill a single person. So your "fact" is far from a fact.

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 05/07/13 - 09:24 am
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What would you consider

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What would you consider "qualifying" for one?

faithson
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faithson 05/07/13 - 09:25 am
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Really....you were there?

No... but being a vietnam vet and having seen what these instuments of death can do... that scene is exactly what those teachers and children saw in their last breaths. Don't think there is a man who knows guns on these boards who would disagree.

t3bledsoe
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t3bledsoe 05/07/13 - 09:26 am
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HA you could have at least corrected my spelling

"Average citizens should nao have assault weapons nor larger magazines."

"Why not?"

Indaviduals (sp) should not have the same fire-power as police. Police are paid and trained for this, NOT THE AVERAGE CITIZEN.

t3bledsoe
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t3bledsoe 05/07/13 - 09:34 am
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HA I don't know how you defined so much desent at once

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"How about a fully computerized form of gun registry ( spelling )."

Why?"

People are literally getting away with murder because there is no computerized gun registry ! You say we all need to add to our safety, LET'S HELP LAW ENFORCEMENT DO A GOOD JOB !

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 05/07/13 - 09:37 am
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"Police are paid and trained

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"Police are paid and trained for this, NOT THE AVERAGE CITIZEN."

The average citizen in this state is required to have training to carry a concealed weapon already, Bledsoe.

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 05/07/13 - 09:38 am
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Bledsoe...EXPLAIN how not

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Bledsoe...EXPLAIN how not having a gun registry is allowing people to get away with murder? Please use some facts.

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 05/07/13 - 09:39 am
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"that scene is exactly what

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"that scene is exactly what those teachers and children saw in their last breaths. "

Still.....no idea if you weren't there. What guns did he use? Seeing as the ar-15 (a SEMI automatic gun) was found in the trunk.

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RMSHEFF 05/07/13 - 09:40 am
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The Liberal argument seems to

The Liberal argument seems to be that we can't have something because we don't need it, its not necessary. I could make that same argument for the type of car you drive or size house you may live in. Indeed Obama would like nothing better than to prevent Americans from purchasing large SUVs and trucks

Its clear to me that Liberals what to dictate what people can and cannot have. Its a question of freedom and they don't like people being free.

t3bledsoe
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t3bledsoe 05/07/13 - 09:52 am
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HA soom things are true at face value

"Bledsoe...EXPLAIN how not having a gun registry is allowing people to get away with murder? Please use some facts."

I saw a story on ""60-Minutes"" ( a conservative news show ) about the law will allow written registries but no cumputers. What good is served by this ??!!

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 05/07/13 - 09:54 am
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What good is served by a

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What good is served by a computerized registry?

RMSHEFF
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RMSHEFF 05/07/13 - 09:54 am
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""60-Minutes"" ( a

""60-Minutes"" ( a conservative news show ) !!! Thanks for the laugh..I need one.

t3bledsoe
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t3bledsoe 05/07/13 - 09:59 am
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"What good is served by a

"What good is served by a computerized registry?"

HA WAKE-UP, it's the 21st century ! Not giving police WHAT IS VERY MUCH NEEDED, deals the police a very nigative advantage !!

By the way, Please answer my newest e-mail to you, please.

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 05/07/13 - 10:03 am
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EXPLAIN how the computerized

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EXPLAIN how the computerized registry would help.

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