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Well, well – South Carolina is one of 11 states that has more people receiving welfare than people who are gainfully employed.

According to the Republican side of the Senate Budget Committee, in 2011, between food stamps, housing support, child care, Medicaid and other benefits, the average household below the poverty line received $168 a day – whereas the median household income for the employed averaged only $137 a day.

It went on to report that welfare now pays the equivalent of $30 an hour for 40 hours while the average worker pay is only $25 a day. There are 83 overlapping federal welfare programs that cost $1.03 trillion.

Is there something wrong with this picture? Where is the incentive to work for a living? Apparently, there is none.

What we are witnessing is the Cloward-Piven strategy at work. For the benefit of those who do not know, it was named after Columbia University sociologists Richard Andrew Cloward and his wife, Frances Fox Piven. Both were members of the Democratic Socialists of America Party.

This strategy seeks to hasten the fall of capitalism by overloading the government bureaucracy with a flood of impossible demands, thus pushing society into crisis and economic collapse.

What we are seeing is the deliberate destruction of our beloved country being replaced with a Soviet-style socialist system.

Andy Windham

Wagener, S.C.

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Jon Lester
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Jon Lester 03/31/13 - 02:54 am
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DanK
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DanK 03/31/13 - 04:30 am
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southern2
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southern2 03/31/13 - 05:57 am
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Good letter. Amazed there are

Good letter. Amazed there are still so many low information Americans that just don't get it, then again that is the way the strategy works.

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seenitB4 03/31/13 - 07:06 am
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Maybe some need to read this again...

South Carolina is one of 11 states that has more people receiving welfare than people who are gainfully employed.

If YOU can't see a problem in this statement....weel we are in a heap of trouble...even more than I thought.

RMSHEFF
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RMSHEFF 03/31/13 - 07:40 am
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Dank & John Lester

Facts are stubborn things !

Jane18
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Jane18 03/31/13 - 08:03 am
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Jon and Dan

Too blind to see, too deaf to hear, and too ignorant(to ignore) to realize what is happening right in front of them. People like these two really do amaze me, as in "DENY, DENY, DENY"!

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rmwhitley 03/31/13 - 08:05 am
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The doubters
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( those who do not believe this is happening or don't care) are at the core of this disaster.

CobaltGeorge
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CobaltGeorge 03/31/13 - 09:01 am
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Yes Jane

and it's more than likely that 99.9 % of those you describe in your comment "Do Not Believe In God".
Their love, faith and worship is in their government, controlled by Lord King SMNCICBHO, the Hammer & Sickle Man.

justthefacts
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justthefacts 03/31/13 - 08:56 am
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Unsubstainable

More people riding in the wagon and less people pulling.

dichotomy
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dichotomy 03/31/13 - 11:04 am
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Isn't it amazing that there

Isn't it amazing that there are folks like Jon Lester and DanK that refuse to hear the facts. I suppose they also ignore the recent analysis in several states that PROVE that there are low wage workers that refuse pay raises because it would cause them to lose some government subsidies and actually reduce their income. And that those low wage workers who are getting subsidies are actually netting MORE income than people who are working and making a higher wage.

We have reached the RIDICULOUS point. There is no way that someone on the public dole should net more than someone working in ANY job.....even a minimum wage job. I hate to say it but it's time to make WELFARE people POOR again. That MIGHT give them some incentive to get off of their arse and go to work. Take away their Obamaphones and subsidized house in the suburbs and give them enough to buy rice and beans and that's about it. WHAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING FOR THIRTY YEARS OR MORE HAS NOT WORKED. WE HAVE MADE IT WORSE. WE HAVE CREATED A CULTURE OF USELESS, NON-PRODUCTIVE MOOCHERS AND LEECHES.

And please, do not give me this crap about feeding the hungry. I haven't seen anyone fall out from malnutrition in 50 years. Just the opposite. The majority of obesity is in this "no work" culture because even though we GIVE them money they are too lazy to shop and cook a decent meal so they head for the nearest fast food joint. And the only ones I've seen die of exposure did so because they were drunked up or drugged up on the taxpayer's dime.

You know it, I know it, and I suspect Jon Lester and DanK know it but it's an INCONVENIENT TRUTH that nobody wants to admit. They won't admit it because it destroys their socialist, big government nanny state dream and many of us won't admit it because it proves how STUPID we are for being duped so long by the "take care of the poor and elderly and feed the children" guilt mongering crowd. How the hell Obamaphones got in there I will never know. I don't mind taking care of the elderly, disabled (not drug users and drunks), and any TRULY hungry children. BUT THAT AIN'T WHAT'S HAPPENING. We have created a live for free, contribute nothing, and hate the people who are paying your way society.....and they are still hollering for MOOOORE.

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jimmymac 03/31/13 - 11:45 am
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dichotomy
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You have nailed it on the head with your comments. Many states have totally incentified so many people to not work that whole generations of them just no longer get the connection between working and having stuff. They expect it for "free'' and if the goverment doesn't give it to them they steal to support their habits. This is the only country in the world where the so called poor are suffering from obesity. They're rewarded for their bad choices with taxpayer funded healthcare. We need to get smarter and force the lazy off their rearends and start taking care of themselves and their spawn.

KSL
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KSL 03/31/13 - 12:21 pm
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Being poor and lazy ought to

Being poor and lazy ought to be uncomfortable.

southern2
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southern2 03/31/13 - 01:59 pm
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Heard EBT is $700 month and

Heard EBT is $700 month for free groceries and fast food and tax "refunds" for the "poor", non producers is at $10,000 a year. Incentive to work is now at zero.

IMRIGHTYOUREWRONG
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IMRIGHTYOUREWRONG 03/31/13 - 02:36 pm
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I have a few points to make about the “facts” presented by this writer. First, the misuse of numbers, if “the average worker pay is only $25 a day” ($3.13 per hour for an 8 hour day), then “the median household income for the employed averaged only $137 a day” does not hold as valid. The median household income would be $50 per day ($25 per person times 2, per day). Now, I personally think that this number is low unless of course the number is being averaged out with days in which the worker is not working (i.e. 365 days) in which case the hourly average would bump up to about $4.38 per hour when the $25 per day is applied times 7 days per week and divided by 40 work hours per week. This number is about $3.00 below the federal minimum wage. So again, it still seems low. Secondly, since no source is provided for the numbers mentioned, other than “the Republican side of the Senate Budget Committee”, either this committee has erroneous numbers or the writer fabricated the numbers to help falsely argue his point. If this were the case, then the writer committed an egregious error in writing. And finally, if the working wage numbers are grossly miscalculated then it would be fair to suggest the federal benefit numbers are miscalculated as well. Again, since no definitive source is provided for these numbers. I will at least acknowledge the argument on its suggestive basis. However, in this particular case the “facts” do not make it valid. Thus, I would suggest the writer reevaluate his sources, and I try again.

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specsta 03/31/13 - 02:47 pm
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Rich Folks Are Wonderful! The Poor, Not So Much...

It appears that "bad" welfare equals helping poor citizens, but "good welfare" equals helping billion-dollar corporations make even more money. That's the conservative mindset.

I would imagine that some of these heartless people wouldn't mind seeing a return to the Dust Bowl days of the 1930's, or the soup lines or people living in wooden shacks with outhouses. After all, poor people deserve what they get, right?

Despite the apparent laziness of many rich folks, many of whom inherited their wealth and never raised a finger to earn it, it will be the poor person in this society who is accused of being shiftless and lazy and no-count and good-for-nothing. This makes perfect sense to the conservative mind.

Poor people make a convenient scapegoat. Why not blame the ills of society on those who have no voice, no power, no influence? They are hardly in a position to defend themselves, are they?

That's America for you - love the rich and condemn the poor. Exploitation at its best.

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harley_52 03/31/13 - 03:46 pm
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"Why not blame the ills of society on those who have no voice,..

...no influence? They are hardly in a position to defend themselves, are they??

I don't blame the ills on the powerless and poor, I blame LIBERALS.

As for being unable to defend themselves, what can unborn children do to protect themselves? If they can't trust their own mother, who can they trust?

dichotomy
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dichotomy 03/31/13 - 04:30 pm
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specsta......So again you

specsta......So again you start with a flaming lie that people who disagree with our welfare system somehow automatically are rich and automatically are in favor of corporate "welfare", which I assume you mean tax breaks or incentives. No matter how many times you say that it don't make it true.

I'm not making poor people a scapegoat. I'm just saying the facts that everyone knows are true. And NO, I do not agree with corporate welfare. But two wrongs do not make a right. And you can stop all of the corporate welfare you want but even if you get it all, that will not cure the problem with the pity party poor welfare culture we have created under the false flag of helping the needy. We've helped the needy so damned much I am now needy. And 100% of the income from the "rich" cannot support the permanent welfare culture of healthy breeding freeloaders we are supporting and going in debt for.

And I guess the difference is that I have never had to stand in line at the grocery store with my hamburger and family pack of pork chops while a corporation was using food stamps to pay for NY strips, T-bones, and name brand cereals and jumping into the Escalade that was waiting at the door being driven by the boyfriend that ain't never seen a job.....all while BOTH of them were yapping on their Obamaphones.

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Darby 03/31/13 - 04:36 pm
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"Yes, it's totally bogus."

No, not really. What is bogus is the feigned denial by those who support the leaches and parasites whose dependence on those of us who produce has become institutionalized.

What Cloward-Piven did not anticipate, however is the chaos and ultimate armed uprising that will ensue should their predictions bear their bitter fruit.

Some progressives and liberals do see what's coming, thus the push to nullify the Second Amendment.

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southern2 03/31/13 - 05:56 pm
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"There are 83 overlapping

"There are 83 overlapping federal welfare programs that cost $1.03 trillion."

This is one thing you never hear mentioned by either party as a contributing factor to our nation's $$$16trillion debt. It is always the "entitlements" of those who have worked, paid in to S/S and medicare and are expecting a return on their lifetime of paycheck deductions that are blamed and used as sacrificial lambs when illustrating ways to solve our debt crisis. I say cut off these generational moochers first.

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harley_52 03/31/13 - 07:00 pm
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What Is "Corporate Welfare?"

It is a pejorative term used to describe LAWS, passed by Congress, and signed by the President that provide tax breaks to corporations who take actions (or refrain from taking actions) in accordance with what the government wants them to do. Drill in a certain place, you get a tax break. Make certain desirable, specified changes to your method of production, you get a tax break. Locate your business in a certain area, you get a tax break.

I AM NOT necessarily a fan of "corporate welfare," I'm simply pointing out that it's neither illegal, nor probably immoral, for companies to avail themselves to "corporate welfare." As a stockholder, I would want and expect a company in which I held stock to do just that.

Taking a tax credit for buying an energy saving refrigerator is analogous to a company taking a credit for making an energy saving investment in its manufacturing equipment.

If you don't like "corporate welfare" I believe you should be faulting Congress and the President, not industry.

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allhans 03/31/13 - 07:47 pm
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It makes no sense at all that

It makes no sense at all that so many are content to be controlled by their "masters". The liberals have known how to control the lazy for decades..don't expect them to cut them loose now.

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Young Fred 03/31/13 - 10:21 pm
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I'm with you on this allhans

I'm with you on this allhans -

"It makes no sense at all that so many are content to be controlled by their "masters".

At least until you apply a little basic psychology. Caged rabbits tend to be happier than one would believe.

Darby
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Darby 04/01/13 - 02:21 pm
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"It appears that "bad" welfare....

equals helping poor citizens, but "good welfare" equals helping billion-dollar corporations make even more money."

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When you get right down to it. There is no such thing as corporate welfare, given that without corporations, there would be no money to provide the so-called "bad" welfare.

Corporate welfare is simply a left-wing buzz phrase to facilitate the war on capitalism and free enterprise, and to advance bogus environmental issues.

In truth, corporations pay no taxes at all, (and they shouldn't) because any taxes levied against them is passed on to the consumer as it must be in order for the corporation to survive and grow.

On another level, corporations (in the body of it's shareholders) do pay taxes and a lot of them too.

Without those shareholders, Specsta's "poor" would starve in the streets, or find work on their own. Fat chance!

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