Pro-gay letter fell flat

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The letter “Gays merely want rights” by John Cashin (Feb. 22) was the lamest attempt to be cool and progressive that I have ever seen.

When did unnatural sex become a civil right? Funk & Wagnalls defines unnatural as “contrary to the laws of nature.” Homosexuality rarely occurs in the natural world because snakes know better, monkeys know better, and birds, fish, lizards and even insects know better.

Mr. Cashin states that gays have no agenda. That is the second-most preposterous statement in his letter. His most ridiculous statement is that no laws have been broken. A Georgia law criminalizes sodomy. Sheriffs’ deputies have a legal obligation to arrest any person they witness engaged in any act of sodomy.

He asks why we don’t write letters protesting rape, murder or incest. The answer? We don’t have to. Society has the good sense to arrest and jail those people.

He says “They just want their rights.” I guess he means civil rights, which are described by Funk & Wagnalls as private and nonpolitical. Do us all a favor and keep your sexual preferences private and nonpolitical.

By one reliable estimate, more than 97 percent of U.S. citizens are heterosexual. Why do we have to cater to the 3 percent? After years of research and billions of dollars spent, geneticists are unable to find a gene that causes people to be homosexual. Until we know that a person can be genetically predisposed to be homosexual, it remains a matter of choice.

Today’s gay rights movement may be the first time in history that such a small group of people have been so vocal, so adamant and so public to promote a sexual activity. The 97 percent have much more important things to attend to, such as God, family, jobs, food, clothes and shelter.

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myfather15
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myfather15 02/26/13 - 02:39 pm
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@WritingsOnTheWall

So, what you would like to see is ALL journalism reporting to be towards one side, as to assist that side only?

Yes, you're correct that does sound like Nazi Germany.

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justthefacts 02/26/13 - 02:41 pm
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Wow

The things you learn on this site! (:

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InChristLove 02/26/13 - 02:41 pm
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" "Please explain you comment

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"Please explain you comment karradur? What does the internet have to do with rude behavior?"

To paraphrase Chris Kluwe, sometimes it's the only way to get through to people like you who have convictions I could never feasibly change."

So you admit that since you can not discuss the subject as an adult, instead of stating your opinion and then agreeing to disagree, you take on juvenile and rude behavior as an alternative to try and make your point. Well at least I know whom I'm dealing with.

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Humble Angela 02/26/13 - 02:43 pm
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" Do you report so as to
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" Do you report so as to allow the continuation of harm to a minority or a less powerful person or group or do you report in such a manner as to help change the situation that is causing harm?"

That's the problem with liberal "journalists." Their job is to report the facts, NOT promote one agenda over another.

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myfather15 02/26/13 - 02:47 pm
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I'm still waiting on karradur

I'm still waiting on karradur to explain how gay couples can conceive in the same manor as hetrosexual couples without outside assistance.

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WritingsOnTheWall 02/26/13 - 02:48 pm
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Angie, MyFather, and the
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Angie, MyFather, and the rest

No one has to sit idly by and tolerate inhumane treatment of our fellow humans. People can have their opinions "respected" and still not enacted into law, that's what all you people fail to realize, respect your opinions in your own life, stay out of everyone else's. Call it bias, or advocacy...I'll just call it what it is, right.

I'm gay and I really don't care if you find how I love immoral. What I do mind is you thinking we're a Christian theocracy and that you can impose your religious will on us. If you want to have your religious values in government allow your churches to be taxed or keep your anti-gay drivel inside your tax free church where the rest of us don't have to hear it.

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WritingsOnTheWall 02/26/13 - 02:50 pm
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"That's the problem with liberal "journalists." Their job is to report the facts, NOT promote one agenda over another."

Yes conservatives never have a bias or make up their own facts to fit their own agendas. They are perfect, pure, and moral. Riiiiiiight.

You guys need to listen to Jon Huntsmen. The 100 year old religious social agenda is killing the GOP. Why you all cling to it is beyond me.

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myfather15 02/26/13 - 02:50 pm
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One man and one woman=Child

One man and one woman=Child containing both their DNA's.
One man and one man=Hhhhmmm, guess I'll have to get back to you.
One woman and one woman=Hhhmmm, Let me think on this one......

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WritingsOnTheWall 02/26/13 - 02:51 pm
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Why on earth does the media
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Why on earth does the media need to be "even handed" about this issue?! Did they need to be even handed about Segregation? While I'm all for attempting to understand differing point of views there is a clear "right" and "wrong" side here. There is group of people using their personal beliefs as a reason to oppress another group of people. Do I think the anti-gays need to be tolerated, and treated with the same basic dignity as everyone else? Yes, of course, but that doesn't mean treating their unfairness fairly.

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WritingsOnTheWall 02/26/13 - 02:52 pm
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"One man and one woman=Child
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"One man and one woman=Child containing both their DNA's.
One man and one man=Hhhhmmm, guess I'll have to get back to you.
One woman and one woman=Hhhmmm, Let me think on this one......"

What about straight, sterile couples?

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WritingsOnTheWall 02/26/13 - 02:52 pm
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Civil rights was supposedly
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Civil rights was supposedly going to destroy the fabric of our society, interracial marriage was supposedly worse than having coitus with your dog that is doing your sister, and now we have gay marriage that is supposedly worse than 6 Million Jews and other groups killed in the holocaust....common denominator? Republicans. Same old crowd of hate filled tools who were against equality until they were pounded into submission by the more enlightened public, i am glad my generation is rejecting religious dogma and hate.

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karradur 02/26/13 - 02:53 pm
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"So you admit that since you

"So you admit that since you can not discuss the subject as an adult, instead of stating your opinion and then agreeing to disagree, you take on juvenile and rude behavior as an alternative to try and make your point. Well at least I know whom I'm dealing with."

Why am I supposed to agree to disagree?

Like this is something where there is a reasonable compromise or a middle ground.

That's funny.

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Humble Angela 02/26/13 - 02:53 pm
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" What I do mind is you
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" What I do mind is you thinking we're a Christian theocracy and that you can impose your religious will on us."

No one said we are, or that we can. But I'm not surprised you would post that....see my last post for the reason.

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WritingsOnTheWall 02/26/13 - 02:53 pm
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Horror of secularism? You
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Horror of secularism?

You mean a society that isn't going to be prejudiced against another group just because of something that doesn't really matter in the first place? You do realize most of the arguments against gay marriage were also used, nearly word for word, against interracial marriage right?

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 02/26/13 - 02:54 pm
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"Yes conservatives never have
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"Yes conservatives never have a bias or make up their own facts to fit their own agendas. They are perfect, pure, and moral. Riiiiiiight."

Again....let's see your evidence.....not that I would defend it if you could find it, because I'm not a hypocrite. I condemn journalists lying from either side.

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karradur 02/26/13 - 02:54 pm
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Remember when Dr. Martin

Remember when Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. "agreed to disagree" with the segregationists?

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WritingsOnTheWall 02/26/13 - 02:54 pm
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"No one said we are, or that we can."

Then why fight to ban marriage between loving CONSENTING adult couples?

Please don't bring up pedophilia or bestiality as neither animals nor children can consent and they are not anything like two grown women or two grown males loving one another.

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WritingsOnTheWall 02/26/13 - 02:55 pm
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"I condemn journalists lying from either side."

Have you condemned Fox for lying about the WMDs?

Have you condemned sites like The Heritage calling Obama a socialist/Commie when he isn't?

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 02/26/13 - 02:56 pm
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"You guys need to listen to Jon Huntsmen. The 100 year old religious social agenda is killing the GOP. Why you all cling to it is beyond me."

He's a journalists now?

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Humble Angela 02/26/13 - 02:56 pm
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Show me where FOX lied about
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Show me where FOX lied about WMD's. I'll be waiting.

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WritingsOnTheWall 02/26/13 - 02:56 pm
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The entire western world is
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The entire western world is quickly adapting to the idea of gay marriage and recognizing opposition is based on hollow arguments propped up by religious fanaticism. Never has a single valid argument against gay marriage been printed that isn't fully rooted in superstition or gut level ick factor. Reporters don't get quotes from flat-earthers each time they mention the earth is round. There is a reason for that.

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 02/26/13 - 02:57 pm
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Obama isn't a socialist?
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Obama isn't a socialist? Really? Who knew.

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WritingsOnTheWall 02/26/13 - 02:57 pm
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LOL show me where any WMDs
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LOL show me where any WMDs were found :-P

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WritingsOnTheWall 02/26/13 - 02:57 pm
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The majority of people (or
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The majority of people (or Popular Vote) did not want slavery to end, equal rights for women, interracial marriages, etc. If we made laws based only on the majority, many groups in the U.S. would not have Civil/Equal rights. When examined closely most sane people can see there are no arguments in support of withholding full civil rights and recognition of homosexual relationships (including Gay marriage) that do not stem from bigotry, hatred, ignorance, and/or religion, ALL of which are NOT valid reasons to deny people Civil/Equal Rights.

If the government (military and non-military) does not allow full equality marriage rights to Straight and Gay people, then the government should get out of the marriage business completely, giving NO marriage benefits to ANYONE (straight or gay), etc. and allow churches to perform their own marriage ceremonies (straight or gay) - no double standards and everyone is treated equally, regardless of sexual orientation. Legal scholars agree that if the Supreme Court looks at this issue from an objective, logical, rational, legal, and civil rights stand point, they will rule that gay marriage should be legal nationwide with the same benefits, and they will strike down DOMA.

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myfather15 02/26/13 - 02:58 pm
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Care to address NATURE? That's what I've used to argue against gay marriage, because NATURE itself has created a system where homosexuality is AGAINST NATURE. Every species requires male and female to procreate, and it's impossible for homosexual human beings to naturally procreate.

Also, exactly what do you call "inhumane treatment"?

Seriously, please answer that. Because the ONLY aspect of homosexual lifestyle I'm opposed to, is societies acceptance of legalized gay marriage. Besides this, I couldn't care less what people do with their lives. Do is oppossing gay marriage "Inhumane treatment"? Please answer.

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HenryWalker3rd 02/26/13 - 02:58 pm
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Does anyone else notice the correlation between being homosexual and not believing God?

It is bigger than sexual orientation.
It is about defying God because of what you "feel" and not know.

FACT: Humans do not benefit from homosexual relationships.
FACT: Humans are not animals, insects, and anyting elase they have been equally compared to...(i.e. Black Widow kills husband after sex)
FACT: God's love can change ANYONE that is willing to change.
FACT: Homosexuality is a spirit. I cannot be conqured alone.

"For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms." - Ephesians 6:12

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Humble Angela 02/26/13 - 02:58 pm
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"Please don't bring up pedophilia or bestiality as neither animals nor children can consent and they are not anything like two grown women or two grown males loving one another."

Yeah...please don't bring up facts that he/she can't defend. It's not fair.

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WritingsOnTheWall 02/26/13 - 02:59 pm
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"Obama isn't a socialist? Really? Who knew."

Things you would have learned in High School if you had only payed attention:

1. Taxation is the main portion of Socialism incorporated into ALL modern Democracies.

2. Taxation consists of 4 main purposes, known by all educated people as the 4 R's of taxation.

a. Revenue (money brought in through collecting taxes)
b. Redistribution (adjusting tax structure... allocating tax revenues through government spending)
c. "Repricing" (quantity vs. price of goods... taxes vs. subsidies)
d. Representation (Taxpayers giving a ****. Government accountability)

To claim that Obama's plan is Socialism is to be as ignorant as ignorant can be, in regard to understanding taxation. This is not spin, nor rhetoric. This is plain hard fact. Ignorance is no excuse, and you now have no excuse to be ignorant of the fundamentals of taxation. To continue to use the word Socialism as a pejorative term will result in the continuation of deliberate ignorance. The same thing goes for "Redistribution", "Spreading the wealth", or "Government giveaway". Don't be ignorant.

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Humble Angela 02/26/13 - 03:00 pm
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WritingsOnTheWall 02/26/13 - 03:01 pm
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Angie there is no logical
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Angie there is no logical reasoning in comparing consenting adult relationships to pedophilia or bestiality. CHILDREN CANNOT CONSENT. ANIMALS CANNOT CONSENT.

It doesn't matter if pedophiles are born that way. They're harming children (who by law cannot give informed consent), which means their actions must be condemned and prohibited. People practicing bestiality are harming animals, which cannot give informed consent. Two adults in a consenting relationship aren't hurting anybody, so there's no reason to condemn them or deny their rights.

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