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A message to the obviously misinformed person who wrote the letter to the editor “Amend Second Amendment” (Feb. 15): Ignorance can be changed through education; stupidity and bias can’t.

The Second Amendment, like the rest of the Bill of Rights, is protection for each American citizen against our own government. Our Constitution was finally ratified when these rights were included.

Automatic weapons? These rare weapons have been carefully controlled since 1934. Not one single legally registered machine gun has ever been used in the commission of a crime.

And the so-called “assault rifles” the liberals want to ban? The guns function mechanically no differently than a .22 rifle you can buy at Wal-Mart. They look like machine guns or automatic weapons, but are not.

So the writer doesn’t think we have enemies? Look at the White House. Our enemies can’t come here? What was 9-11?

Throughout the history of man, every time a dictator, despot or king has disarmed his own people, those same people have lost all rights and freedoms.

The Second Amendment is not about criminals or ducks. It is about freedom.

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deestafford 02/19/13 - 08:22 am
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Excellent letter.

I think the biggest trait of those who push for gun control is ignorance(which is temporary and can be overcome) for the most part...with some stupidity (which is permanent) on the part of some.

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 02/19/13 - 08:44 am
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I have yet to see a good
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I have yet to see a good argument against common citizens owning machine guns. It would be good to see someone try. The standard argument they use is "no one has a NEED for such weapons." Well if that is the standard, let's see what other things people own that they don't have a need for, and ban them as well.

faithson
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faithson 02/19/13 - 08:54 am
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'common citizens owning machine guns'

it is kinda intuitive... pull and spray in the hands of the inept is NOT a good idea. remember well the three shot spurts taught on the firing line at Fort Polk, really don't think full auto should be available at Wal-Mart. Now if that is an infringement on YOUR liberty, so be it. btw, one can own auto weapons if they jump through all the federal hoops to do so.

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 02/19/13 - 08:51 am
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Any gun in the hand of the
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Any gun in the hand of the inept is not a good idea. What is wrong with a common citizen who is NOT inept owning a machine gun? Just because you don't THINK full auto should be available at Wal-mart, does not mean it is "intuitive."

faithson
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faithson 02/19/13 - 08:56 am
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Think...

now there is something sorely lacking in continuing this discussion. I'm out.

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 02/19/13 - 09:28 am
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So since you can't tell us
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So since you can't tell us what is wrong with citizens owning machine guns other than "you don't think wal-mart should sell them", you think something is sorely lacking in continuing the discussion? You are right......but what is lacking is a logical, well expressed reason against my first post. Thanks for at least trying. Without a logical refutation, the "I don't think" argument is just the normal liberal, emotion over logic, argument.

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 02/19/13 - 09:33 am
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Let's take it one step
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Let's take it one step further. As the law is now, citizen's CAN own machine guns, provided they pay the exorbitant tax that is required to own the licenses. SO........as it is now, the rich are given rights that the poor don't have. How do you square up with THAT? I thought the left didn't like the rich having rights that were denied to the poor.

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 02/19/13 - 01:33 pm
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Wow....no one will even try?
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Wow....no one will even try? How disappointing.

Darby
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Darby 02/19/13 - 03:31 pm
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Angela - You...

resorted to the dirtiest tactic in the book. Logic and common sense and ran faithson off the board.

Funny, I didn't see anything in the LTE about pull and spray. And the three round burst thing at Ft. Polk, that was concerning the old Browning Automatic Rifle which is no longer in use.

And where did the letter suggest that full auto be available at Wal-Mart? Although, with sufficient controls and background checks, (maybe a required psychiatric evaluation ) it wouldn't bother me it they were.

Jack T
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Jack T 02/19/13 - 04:01 pm
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The Bill of Rights doesn't guarantee unlimited, consequence-free
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The Bill of Rights doesn't guarantee unlimited, consequence-free rights.

I'm so sick of people acting like the Constitution entitles them to unlimited rights to do and own whatever they want regardless of what that freedom does to others. I'm not asking you to give up your guns. I'm not asking for a gun ban. I'm asking for gun owners to have to be responsible for the weapons they purchase and possibly decide to sell others. And regardless of what the right and some libertarians will tell you rights are not unlimited.

Consider, for example, Justice Antonin Scalia’s majority opinion in a ruling of four years ago that overturned a ban on handguns in the District of Columbia:

"Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose…"

When will all the extremely pro gun people ever look around at the carnage and ask if they have a social responsibility to make the gun violence stop? Will there ever be a point where you say enough, perhaps it's up to me to help make this country a safer place, rather than continuing to demand more - more weapons, more firepower, more ways to kill fellow human beings?

Darby
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Darby 02/19/13 - 05:31 pm
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"When will all the extremely pro gun people.....

ever look around at the carnage and ask if they have a social responsibility to make the gun violence stop?"
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There are NO "pro gun" people. There are just pro-liberty and anti-liberty people.

Weapons in the hands of government alone will ultimately suppress liberty. It has been so since the invention of the stone ax.

Weapons in the hands of a free people, assure continuing freedom and liberty.

Darby
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Darby 02/19/13 - 04:29 pm
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I'm just wondering, when will all the......

extremely "anti-liberty" people look at all the carnage and and ask if they have a social responsibility to get the crazies off of our streets and into institutions?

I know, that would require diverting a lot of money away from special interest and "victimization" vote buying, but don't they even think it would be worth it? Look at all the lives they could and would save.

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 02/19/13 - 05:04 pm
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"The Bill of Rights doesn't
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"The Bill of Rights doesn't guarantee unlimited, consequence-free rights."

Care to explain why it is the only right listed in the bill of rights that says "shall not be infringed" instead of "can be infringed upon under certain circumstances."

Jack T
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Jack T 02/19/13 - 05:06 pm
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"Care to explain why it is
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"Care to explain why it is the only right listed in the bill of rights that says "shall not be infringed" instead of "can be infringed upon under certain circumstances.""

Care to explain why you ignore the well regulated part or the fact that even the SCOTUS says there are limits?

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 02/19/13 - 05:08 pm
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Jack T
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Jack T 02/19/13 - 05:13 pm
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Angie president Obama has
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Angie president Obama has faced more threats then any other president in our history including Bush 2. To ignore that it to be willfully ignorant.

Jack T
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Jack T 02/19/13 - 05:18 pm
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Now I admit a lot of liberals
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Now I admit a lot of liberals have bad mouthed Bush and a rare few might've actually threatened him but I have never liberals stand behind such inflammatory rhetoric like the right does especially since 2008.

There are no shortage of websites, signs, posters, and other "humorous" articles that suggest that shooting Democrats or Liberals is an acceptable political strategy. And of course, hateful talk radio hosts are suggesting that if voting doesn't work (e.g., your crackpot views don't appeal to a majority, in a Democracy) that armed violence is acceptable to enforce your minority views on the majority. Gee, the Taliban would certainly agree with that!

If you search online for "Liberal Hunting Permit" you will find tons of images like this(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/552998_4474202127092_16772439...), and websites galore.

Funny thing, though, when you search "Conservative hunting permit" or "Republican Hunting Permit" nothing comes up. Perhaps Democrats don't use the Internet? Or is something else going on here?

Jack T
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Jack T 02/19/13 - 05:22 pm
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Look at ColbatGeorge's main
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Look at ColbaltGeorge's main avatar here. You all know that if liberal came on here with something similar you'd raise all some kind of cane until Sean banned them or at least made them take down the photo. But ColbaltGeorge has a photo implying it's okay to shoot liberals....no problem there huh?

And yes I'm sure Sean or whoever will delete this. The last time I said something about George's photo it didn't even last 5 minutes.

This paper is so full of bias and hypocrisy.

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Willow Bailey 02/19/13 - 07:40 pm
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I'm just sorry we are put in

I'm just sorry we are put in a predicament of having to own guns. If everyone did what is right, we would have no need for guns, locks, security systems, police, jails, prisons, courts....

CobaltGeorge
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CobaltGeorge 02/19/13 - 08:17 pm
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WB

You make me think of the living times of the 40's - 50s'.

Willow Bailey
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Willow Bailey 02/19/13 - 09:23 pm
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sigh, CG...yep, when you rode

sigh, CG...yep, when you rode your bike to the next town, left your doors unlocked and enjoyed sleeping porches in the summer time.
My daughter says she wishes she had grown up then.

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specsta 02/19/13 - 09:39 pm
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You're Worried About the 2nd Amendment? Please...

Thomas R. Taylor wrote : "Throughout the history of man, every time a dictator, despot or king has disarmed his own people, those same people have lost all rights and freedoms."

Here's a thought - the situation that Americans now find themselves is due to a fear-mongering mindset that was crafted so elegantly by the Bush Administration, with its terrorists on every corner, threat levels and illegal wars.

We Americans actually allowed the US government to pass the PATRIOT Act, to initiate a Homeland Security division, to require us to take off our shoes and face sexual-assault level pat-downs at the airport - ALL BECAUSE WE WERE AFRAID!

If anybody has disarmed our rights as citizens, it is us - there is no one else to blame. We have behaved like sheep and watched our rights erode like snow on a stove. We have allowed the Fourth Amendment to become a distant memory. We have allowed constant surveillance of our lives, our internet activity, our purchases, our banking transactions, our political gatherings, our bodies and our travels on the roadway - all because we believed the LIE that some terrorist was just waiting to destroy our lives.

Ladies and gentlemen - we have destroyed our freedoms more than any terrorist ever could imagine.

Government should have no ability to restrict ANY of our activities or freedom of movement, if that activity does not harm anyone's person or property. Yet, as a result of fear-mongering, we are now the ones who HOPE the government will ALLOW us to move about in a fashion without being detained, arrested, or under surveillance.

We accept the fact that we must show "our papers" when asked. We accept the fact that we must be searched, X-rayed, and patted down. We accept the fact that surveillance cameras, many of them undetectable, record our every movement and transaction. We accept the fact that police helicopters, drones, and satellites record our movements. We accept the fact that any governmental body can pry and peer into our private lives and know the most intimate things about our persons.

We accept these things because we are afraid.

Yet, some citizens think that having a cache of weapons in the basement somehow "protects" them. That their 2nd Amendment rights is the peaches-and-cream. Brother and sisters, face it - you have lost the war already, when you decided that you would rather give up your liberties and your privacy in the name of "fighting terror" or some other government-sponsored slogan that required you to turn a blind eye toward your First, Fourth, Fifth and Eighth amendment rights to "be secure".

So go ahead and stockpile your guns and bullets. As if you're actually gonna do something with them, other than accidentally shoot a family member or have them stolen by a real criminal. Americans have allowed their right to be truly free squandered - and some folks are worried about having their guns taken away. They might as well take them away because you have given up everything else, without even so much as a dissent.

Because you are afraid.

itsanotherday1
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itsanotherday1 02/19/13 - 09:47 pm
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A lot of truth in that

A lot of truth in that specsta; we bent over for the Patriot Act and subsequent surveillance methods.

itsanotherday1
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itsanotherday1 02/19/13 - 09:48 pm
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*impatience*

*impatience*

itsanotherday1
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itsanotherday1 02/19/13 - 09:51 pm
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WB

In some respects I wish I had been born 30 years earlier so I would have missed most of this lawlessness and fear.

Jack T
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Jack T 02/19/13 - 10:41 pm
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itsanotherday, Go look up
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itsanotherday,

Go look up crime statistics. Crime is at 30 YEAR LOW! LOL.....lawlessness and fear...riiiiiiiiiiiiight. Unless you live in Somalia or something.

Darby
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Darby 02/19/13 - 11:00 pm
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"So go ahead and stockpile your guns and bullets. "

Thanks so much for your permission... Given the circumstances, the Patriot Act was an overdue but absolutely necessary evil.

If the Patriot Act had been in effect on 9-10, there never would have been a 9-11.

Deny that if you will! And just try to justify your logic.

Darby
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Darby 02/19/13 - 11:14 pm
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"I wish I had been born 30 years earlier.....

so I would have missed most of this lawlessness and fear."

You would have still missed out on the Gunfight at the OK Corral, Dodge City, Billy the Kid, John Wesley Hardin, John Dillinger, Pretty Boy Floyd, Al Capone, 'Bugsy' Siegel, "Baby Face" Nelson, Bonny and Clyde, Ma Barker.... ad infinitum

The evil has always been with us and it always will be with us. So what's really new, other than the fact that more Americans today are willing to stand up to the bad guys??

Darby
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Darby 02/19/13 - 11:28 pm
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"blind eye toward your First,.....

Fourth, Fifth and Eighth amendment rights to "be secure""

Now that's really funny. It's the strict interpretation and adherence to the Second Amendment that guarantees all the others. Think about it.

Darby
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Darby 02/21/13 - 04:37 pm
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"a fear-mongering mindset that was crafted....

so elegantly by the Bush Administration"
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Not like the the "Emperor has no clothes Obama" who is the master of fear mongering. Latest example, going all over the country (at hundreds of thousands of dollars of taxpayer expense) telling the folks how they will starve and die if Sequestration is allowed to go forward. A program HE first proposed and pushed.

Not only that, Sequestration involves only about 2% of the discretionary budget and less than 1% of the total budget.

If the working/producing people of this country can give up between 26 to 65 percent of their earnings to a non-productive government, cannot that same government give up 1 to 2 percent of its out of control spending?

Face it. Obama is the consummate liar and charlatan. The man is disgusting. You can only appreciate him and what he does if you are a parasite on the backs of others.

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