Blame society, not guns

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Walter Williams’ column “Are guns the problem?” (Jan. 17) is so very true and appropriate for this age and time.

I was given a .22 rifle for Christmas in 1941 just before my 11th birthday. My father impressed upon me the safe use of the rifle, and told me never to shoot anything live unless it was for food or if I was in physical danger. Consequently, I never even shot a bird.

I still have the rifle but cannot use it because the breech is expanded so that the shells rupture in the chamber. I have not found anyone who can repair it or it would be in use.

Regarding Mr. Williams’ moral absolutes, he hits the nail on the head. If I misbehaved in school and was punished, I was again punished when I got home.

I would think hard against doing it again. As Proverbs 13:14 says, if you spare the rod, you hate your children, but if you discipline them, you love them. It seems nowadays we are prevented, by laws, from loving our children.

Maybe this is one reason there is so much crime. We cannot love our children with punishment because we might lower their self-esteem.

As society becomes more litigious and more tolerant of misbehavior, the world will become more like a jungle.

Charles M. Stone

Evans

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harley_52
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harley_52 02/18/13 - 12:49 pm
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"I recall the history lessons I was taught in grade school....

....about those God-fearing English who landed at Plymouth Rock in 1620 to found a new Christian nation. After kneeling on the ground and praying over their Bibles, they loaded their guns and started shooting Indians!"

Obviously one of these Government schools, not a parochial school.

Actually, that statement explains a lot.

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allhans 02/18/13 - 12:54 pm
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Children want to be

Children want to be corrected. They are seeking love and what better way to show it.

harley_52
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harley_52 02/18/13 - 01:05 pm
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"Children want to be corrected.....

....They are seeking love and what better way to show it."

I have two granddaughters here with me today (ages 6 and 4). Let me assure you they don't "want to be corrected." But, I know they NEED to be corrected, so I do. They know I love them and I know they'll be better adults for the corrections I make and how I make them.

effete elitist liberal
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effete elitist liberal 02/18/13 - 01:14 pm
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"Actually, that statement explains a lot"

So that didn't happen, harley_52? Of course you wouldn't hear about all that in many Christian parochial schools. In Christian schools, those unreasonable Indian savages would have been fine if they had just abandoned their land without a fight, gays wouldn't have gotten beaten up if they'd just stayed in the closet, and blacks not lynched if they had only stayed away from white women. And don't forget those parochial school "science" classes, where humans never evolved and global warming is a myth.

harley_52
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harley_52 02/18/13 - 01:36 pm
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"So that didn't happen, harley_52?....

....So that didn't happen, harley_52? Of course you wouldn't hear about all that in many Christian parochial schools."

No, it most certainly did not. Forget all that anti-American hatred you were taught and now spew as an adult. Seek the truth. Read a few history books written by the most non-biased sources you can find.

I wasn't taught to hate America. I wasn't taught to hate anybody. Liberalism is all about hatred and victimization. Conservatism is all about respect and responsibility.

harley_52
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harley_52 02/18/13 - 01:48 pm
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Why....

....do many young adults believe the worst about the United States Of America?

Why would a smart, articulate, well educated young woman publicly make the charge that the Pilgrims "After kneeling on the ground and praying over their Bibles, they loaded their guns and started shooting Indians?"

There is abundant evidence that such is NOT the case.

Why do these people view the Founding Fathers as a bunch of drunks and slave holders?

Why do they view successful businessmen as evil, hateful, greedy devils who want to steal from the poor and keep them in misery?

Why do they believe the federal government is the solution to all their problems?

Why do they shun traditional family relationships in favor of anti-social, anti-family behavior and practices?

Why do they insist that certain inanimate objects in the hands of people are responsible for the evil behavior people exhibit?

Why do they believe God is bad for society, but that denying God is good?

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Willow Bailey 02/18/13 - 02:33 pm
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@eel..."I recall the history

@eel..."I recall the history lessons I was taught in grade school about those God-fearing English who landed at Plymouth Rock in 1620 to found a new Christian nation. After kneeling on the ground and praying over their Bibles, they loaded their guns and started shooting Indians!"

What a total lie! Nothing like that occured and you know it. The pilgrims and indians got a long very well for a time. Differing goals, cultures and values led to many misunderstandings and it was natural that conflict arose out of it.

There's always going to be good and evil; stop using Christianity as the basis for evil. Man's the problem, not God. If Christian man makes mistakes, just imagine what the unchristian man does.

Willow Bailey
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Willow Bailey 02/18/13 - 02:35 pm
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harley, I see we are on the

harley, I see we are on the same mind-wave today, simultaneously.

harley_52
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harley_52 02/18/13 - 03:18 pm
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Willow....

What's new?

faithson
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faithson 02/18/13 - 03:23 pm
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'trail of tears'

Protestant America in the late 1800's laid waste to the Red Man. A holocaust by definition if mass genocide is a qualifier. Oh, but they were savages...

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RMSHEFF 02/18/13 - 04:18 pm
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EEL

EEL is giving us proof of how the public school distorted history even way back when he/she went to school. I am sure all of those that risk their lives to sail to the new world came here just to kill some indians ! There are two versions of history,the progressive liberals revisionist history and what actually happened. Unfortunately the liberal progressives have been writing the history text books for the last 40 years.

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faithson 02/18/13 - 04:34 pm
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no RM, there are only the facts of History

as registered in the archives of culture. To deny the pioneering spirit had its amoral side is not supported by the facts. The telling of these factual stories of amoral decisions IS our American History.

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Willow Bailey 02/18/13 - 04:35 pm
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Anyone who is feeling the

Anyone who is feeling the guilt and shame of owning property that is not rightfully theirs can always give it back; don't let any of us hold you back.

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Willow Bailey 02/18/13 - 04:38 pm
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We were all born into sin;

We were all born into sin; red, white, yellow and black.

harley_52
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harley_52 02/18/13 - 05:38 pm
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Faithson....

....who decides what "history" is? Do you think historians might be biased?

Do you think Japanese historians have the same view of the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor as we do, or the same view of Hiroshima and Nagasaki?

How about JFK? Watergate? The Iraq war? The "Trail of tears?"

If you think all historians are unbiased, you probably believe the "mainstream media" is too.

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faithson 02/18/13 - 08:41 pm
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harley

of course all historians are biased, no one is arguing that point, have you seen some of the biographies of JFK. many of us think these decisions are amoral; the Iraq War, Trail of Tears, Invasion of Grenada, Iran-contra, etc. and enjoy a good documentary explaining what happened from a journalists point of view. a Journalist, not a partisan.

harley_52
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harley_52 02/18/13 - 09:22 pm
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faithson...

You said..."... a Journalist, not a partisan," and you say you "enjoy a good documentary explaining what happened from a journalists point of view."

Meaning what? You believe that while historians may be biased, "journalists" are not? Surely you jest.

There's ample evidence to suggest that journalists are just as partisan as are historians (perhaps more so).

You're free to think any decision is amoral, immoral, or moral. It's a free Country. The challenge is to find unbiased journalists and unbiased historians, review their data with an open mind, and draw your own conclusions.

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Bizkit 02/18/13 - 10:19 pm
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One thing for sure EEL wasn't

One thing for sure EEL wasn't paying attention in school. Forgot about Samoset and Squanto. Squanto saved the Pilgrim's butts teaching them how to fish and plant corn-and they did have their first Thanksgiving together. Now later they may not have faired so well but the original posit by EEL is just plain wrong. The Pilgriims didn't go blastin' away at natives.

harley_52
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harley_52 02/18/13 - 10:33 pm
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"One thing for sure EEL wasn't paying attention in school."

My guess is that EEL WAS paying attention in school. I think the liberal educational establishment purposefully produces students who are indoctrinated with the kind of thinking EEL has demonstrated.

Or do you think she just made it all up? Did you read the rest of her post?

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KSL 02/18/13 - 10:48 pm
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Thank yall for defending my ancestors.

John and Priscilla would be pleased.

Darby
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Darby 02/18/13 - 11:28 pm
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"Guns and Bibles again. Where have I heard that before?..."

Maybe it was from our good buddy Obama. Remember, people clinging to.....

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