GOP still 'the stupid party'

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Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal has proclaimed his own Republican Party to be “the stupid party.” Thanks to a large group of conspiracy-minded, science-denying people, a.k.a. the Tea Party, the GOP is attempting to purge itself of stupid candidates.

In looking at the last GOP primary, that is what it had in Rick Perry, Rick Santorum, Herman Cain and the poster child for stupidity, Michele Bachmann.

How can a party with members who denies global warming, evolution and rape pregnancies turn itself around when this is what so many of its voters want?

Fox, conservative talk radio and conservative newspapers carry endorsements of the worst sort of this ilk because “they are one of us.” Their editorials, many taken from far-right conspiracy blogs, inject “stupid” into the mainstream. We have witnessed the birther/Barry Soetoro nonsense down to the idiotic “unanswered” Benghazi questions. It is the pro-life party that wants to keep its guns and ban Obamacare.

The language of “stupid” is epitomized by the phrase “socialist agenda.” Recently the words “nullification” and “secession” also have entered its vocabulary.

Good luck, Bobby.

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Jane18
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Jane18 02/13/13 - 11:16 am
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Global Warming Is..............

A Lie! It is all about politics and economics. TAXES, Mr. Ledo!! Taxes paid by.... guess who?

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 02/13/13 - 11:17 am
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Was it a Republican who said
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Was it a Republican who said "we have to pass this bill so we can see what's in it?"

Was it a Republican who said "I've been in 57 states. I think one left to go?"

Was it a Republican who told the man in the wheel chair to "stand up?"

Was it a Republican who said "we're the country who built the intercontinental railroad?"

Was it a Republican who said ”A zebra does not change its spots.”

And they have the nerve to throw names around to OTHER people.

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 02/13/13 - 11:32 am
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I AM overwhelmed by the irony
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I AM overwhelmed by the irony of a person who calls people stupid, and then uses the following sentence. "How can a party with members who denies global warming, evolution and rape pregnancies turn itself around when this is what so many of its voters want?"

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Jon Lester 02/13/13 - 11:32 am
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Individualists of both sides need to assert themselves

against those party apparatchiks who have led us to the current, unsatisfactory situation. A true liberal would appreciate the Second Amendment every bit as much as the rest of the Bill of Rights. Conversely, Rand Paul shouldn't have to waste his breath even saying the phrase "tea party," when the word "libertarian" has been clearly understood since his father first came to office.

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carcraft 02/13/13 - 12:32 pm
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Who is stupid?

Stupid is Calling the Republicans stupid when the Democrats have a congress critter who thinks Guam might tip over and another who wants to send the Mars Rover over to see where the astronauts landed on the moon! The Best study seems to indicate that Global warming stopped 16 years ago but who am I to argue with the party had a three time felon as a political canidate.in Detroit..BWAHAHAHAHAHA

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dichotomy 02/13/13 - 12:36 pm
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The stupid ones are those who

The stupid ones are those who ignore what is really being said. The stupid ones are those who cherry pick the statements of one or two nutcases and attribute them to a philosophy of fiscal responsibility.

Whatever is happening in the climate, and there is much evidence that nothing extraordinary is happening, it is merely our position that it is a natural occurence is not "man made". You are the stupid ones if you ignore the fact that the earth has warmed and cooled many times before man walked the earth, after man walked the earth, and before there were any cars or industry. Ignoring your beloved science based evidence of prior warming and cooling is what's STUPID.

"Socialist agenda" is certainly not stupid. This administration has proven they have a socialist agenda. We oppose their socialist agenda. Nothing stupid about that. I submit to you Greece, Spain, Portugal, Ireland, England, etc., etc. to prove huge government social programs and deficit spending are not the way to go. That is ALL we have seen from Obama and the Democrats and Obama proposed more of the same last night. There IS a socialist agenda and opposing it is NOT stupid......except to socialists apparently like the writer.

You can disagree with many of the social issue values of the GOP.....I do myself. BUT, when it comes to advocating fiscal responsibilty and spending cuts the GOP is apparently the only smart ones around. If we continue down the Obama path the GOP is going to be viewed as being very smart in about 10 years.

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Riverman1 02/13/13 - 12:51 pm
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Stupid is as Stupid Does

And that's 'bout all I got to say 'bout that.

owensjef3
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owensjef3 02/13/13 - 12:59 pm
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Sorry I think it was a fellow
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Sorry I think it was a fellow member of the GOP who called you stupid.

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 02/13/13 - 01:25 pm
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"Sorry I think it was a
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"Sorry I think it was a fellow member of the GOP who called you stupid."

And that makes him right? Again...I know it's hard for someone who agrees with EVERY SINGLE THING that their chosen party says to believe that there are those of us who can disagree with someone with an "R" behind their name, but we do. And I seriously doubt that Mr. Ledo, who called us stupid, is a member of the GOP.

myfather15
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myfather15 02/13/13 - 01:29 pm
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The liberal democrats are

The liberal democrats are constant LIARS, therefore anything they say is automatically untrustworthy!! What else needs to be said? It's the truth!!

myfather15
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myfather15 02/13/13 - 02:14 pm
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Liberals are all to happy to

Liberals are all to happy to ignore the fact there are actually more scientists in the world who QUESTION global warming, than support it. Many saying they do NOT believe it's factual and proven. Just use google and find out for yourself. But of course, to liberals, those are crackpot scientists, not deserving of any legitimate voice becaue they don't agree with them.

Wow, is it amazing but there is one thing liberals are absolutely the CHAMPIONS of the World in.........LYING!! It isn't even close!! Comparing it to sports, the liberals could beat the Baltimore Ravens, SF Giants and Miami Heat; ALL at the same time, if the game were lying!! Lying and confusion go hand in hand and they are the undisputed Champions of the World!! Give them their trophy!!

Bruno
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Bruno 02/13/13 - 03:40 pm
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There are stupid people in

There are stupid people in all political parties. To deny this fact is ... stupid and proves my point. :)

duffstuff
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duffstuff 02/13/13 - 04:07 pm
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Libertarian anyone?

I don't understand why more people don't get on board with the libertarian party? I feel like most republicans say they want the government to stay out of our business but then they're all about "the war on drugs" which is a joke, and a failure. First off shouldn't an adult be able to determine what he/she can put in their body? I realize the argument is about "the good of society" but people are gonna do drugs and prosecuting them and locking them up does little to affect drug use. And if the government really cared about people's health as its affect to their bodies, cigarettes would have to be made illegal but they won't do that and the reason being has nothing to do with health or society but about big business. Also in the same regard if we're going down that road, the number one thing that should be illegal is over eating. Maybe restaurants should regulate portion sizes and calories. After all obesity kills more people every year and causes way more health problems than any drug. Then there's the other issues I see as inconsistent with wanting to keep the government out of our business like certain ares of censorship and defining who can or can't get married. Live and let live. Thats what I say. I certainly have my problems with liberals/democrats as well, and the common denominator (in my opinion) with both of them is an ineffective sense of ideology. I see the libertarian party as not only the party of limited government, but also the party of realistic functionality (not ideology) So who's with me on that? Anyone??? Bueller? Bueller?

That last line is a Ferris Buellers Day Off joke (for the slow folks out there) ha ha jk

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 02/13/13 - 04:16 pm
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Duffstuff. I'll counter your
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Duffstuff. I'll counter your post with a quote from Blazing Saddles....just after Gabby Johnson's speech.

"Now who can argue with that?"

harley_52
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harley_52 02/13/13 - 04:27 pm
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Most Scientists....

....who support the notion than man has caused, or can influence in any way, the earth's warming (or cooling) have a political, or financial, interest in that claim being true. It's wise in this case, and many others, to "follow the money."

Most independent scientists believe the earth warms and cools in cycles. They can point to evidence that this has been happening as far back as can be measured. The believe such cycles are largely dependent on solar activity which influence ocean warming and cooling, which influences weather. Solar activity occurs in cycles as well and is not influenced in any way by automobile exhaust emissions, hair spray, or any other human behavior demonized by global warming cultists.

Look to see if your scientist is in a government job, or works in a business, or University, which depends on government grants or other government funding dependent on proving anthropogenic global warming is a fact. It isn't. The earth is actually cooling.

Man has no ability to influence the earths warming, or cooling, one way or the other.

Mother Nature has a mind of her own no matter what the liberals tell you.

harley_52
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harley_52 02/13/13 - 04:36 pm
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If You Wonder....

....what is the real reason the liberals have created this entire anthropogenic global warming scam, it's because they want to take money from the rich, take most for themselves, and act like they're doing it for humanitarian reasons based on "social justice."

If you need evidence to support that claim, look no further than Al Gore.

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burninater 02/13/13 - 04:36 pm
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Whatever is happening in the

Whatever is happening in the climate, and there is much evidence that nothing extraordinary is happening, it is merely our position that it is a natural occurence is not "man made". You are the stupid ones if you ignore the fact that the earth has warmed and cooled many times before man walked the earth, after man walked the earth, and before there were any cars or industry. Ignoring your beloved science based evidence of prior warming and cooling is what's STUPID.
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Dichotomy, you should educate yourself about the evidence before you throw the "stupid" word around so freely.

Do you think the scientists studying the data are ignorant of earth's climactic history? Do you think they are unaware of the non-anthropogenic factors that contribute to average global temperatures? Do you think they are unaware of solar energy fluctuations, orbit eccentricity, magnetic field fluctuations, volcanic activity, and plate tectonics as non-anthropogenic factors? Do you think they're that STUPID?

The question isn't whether or not the earth has cooled or warmed independently of man's actions. The fossil record, evolutionary record, geochemical record, and geologic record unambiguously show past warming and cooling. Guess who figured that out, dichotomy? The same SCIENTISTS using the same SCIENTIFIC METHOD that is presenting clear evidence of anthropogenic global warming.

Do you think they are STUPID enough to NOT consider natural effects in their analysis? Your post clearly suggests that, but guess what? They're not.

burninater
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burninater 02/13/13 - 04:58 pm
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Harley, the earth has cooled

Harley, the earth has cooled and warmed in the past, but not in the strictly cyclical pattern you suggest. Many heating and cooling events were unique events, such as the dramatic cooling following the unprecedented trapping of atmospheric carbon by an explosion in vegetation growth during the Mississippian and Pennsylvanian subperiods (298.9 to 358.9 million years ago). This type of historically unique event can profoundly influence climate, and it is not a cyclical event.

Yes, natural climate change occurs. No climate scientist denies this, and attempts to derail debate of potential human impacts by claiming climate scientists are ignorant of natural climate variation are purely red herrings.

Equally unsupportable is the belief that the chemical composition of the atmosphere can be changed with no physical response. Human activity is changing the relative concentrations of chemical components of the earth's atmosphere. This is simple fact. Changing the physical chemistry of a system changes the behavior of that system. This is also a simple fact. How that system changes, or even if that change is measurable, are the things that science is studying. But blanket, unfounded assertions that humans cannot change climate -- particularly when such assertions summarily disregard chemical and physical law -- are ill-informed and serve no purpose but distraction. Scientific study that disproves anthropogenic effects are useful. Because I Said So statements that ignore physical law are not.

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RMSHEFF 02/13/13 - 04:59 pm
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Perception is reality

Perception is reality with low information voters and the liberal progressive like Obama take full advantage. Having the main stream media singing from the same song sheet helps keep these low information voters in the dark. Climate change is the perfect example. Obama and the liberals preach about global warming as if it were a settled scientific fact and the media repeats the same line. Most people have become intellectually lazy and don't us antithetical reasoning to discover truth. I fear by the time most people realize what "fundamental change" actually means it will be to late for America.

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Bizkit 02/13/13 - 05:56 pm
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There is no smoking gun

There is no smoking gun "proof" that global warming is man-made it is just the consensus of what scientist "think" with the evidence they've examined. I remember back in the 70's they predicted we would be in another mini-ice age now. But science is a process. Life and our environment constantly impact each other just like the dinosaurs before mammals took over. But carbon does cycle and the oceans and peat bogs are carbon sinks for excess-unfortunately we kinda wiped out most of the sphagnum peat bogs. Really the issue is what to do-in Asia much of the carbon footprint comes from rice fields that feeds their population, cattle in South America, then industry too. Bottom line is that it is "global" so if everyone doesn't do their job then all is for naught. I should also add that scientist aren't without bias and this consensus maybe just as much political as science. Look how the embryonic stem cell scientist bastardized themselves for money and personal gain.

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burninater 02/13/13 - 05:27 pm
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RMSHEFF, very perceptive.

RMSHEFF, very perceptive. Let's take a closer look at how minor changes to your post produce an equal truth:

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Perception is reality with low information voters and the conservative oligarchs like the Kochs take full advantage. Having the Right wing media singing from the same song sheet helps keep these low information voters in the dark. Climate change is the perfect example. The Kochs and the right wing preach about the absence of global warming as if it were a settled scientific fact and the right wing media repeats the same line. Most people have become intellectually lazy and don't use antithetical reasoning to discover truth. I fear by the time most people realize what "fundamental change" actually means it will be to late for America.
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I fully agree with your statement that there is a pandemic of intellectual laziness. History suggests it is not new, and honest assessment confirms that it is rampant across the entire political spectrum, not just confined to the other side. Thinking that only one political group suffers from it is its own form of intellectual laziness.

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Willow Bailey 02/13/13 - 05:31 pm
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Joe Biden in 2016?

"If we do everything right, if we do it with absolute certainty, there's still a 30% chance we're going to get it wrong."

"I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man."

"A man I'm proud to call my friend. A man who will be the next President of the United States — Barack America"

"Stand up Chuck, let'em see ya!"

"They're going to put y'all back in chains."

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allhans 02/13/13 - 05:37 pm
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Facts checkers found a

Fact checkers have several problems with Obama in his address to the nation last night.

burninater
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burninater 02/13/13 - 05:39 pm
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WB, absent some major event,

WB, absent some major event, my money's on HRC in 2016.

It will be interesting to see who the Repubs bring on, but Rubio generates quite a buzz ...

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Riverman1 02/13/13 - 05:46 pm
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It's been revealed the data

It's been revealed the data used for the famous global warming report was false. Keep in mind, without a doubt, an ice age spreading glaciers over America will happen and current thinking is there's not much we can do about it. We would be better off trying to think of ways to warm up the planet.

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allhans 02/13/13 - 05:56 pm
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I think this started with

I think this started with talk about "stupid party" and yet we have liberals who will support this kind of...well, you know...
"Even as the president made his case to the nation that he could generate new jobs without raising the federal deficit he pledged to increase federal spending to fix roads and bridges and boost the minimum wage.

Willow Bailey
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Willow Bailey 02/13/13 - 05:56 pm
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burn, I agree with you,

burn, I agree with you, though Biden commented he had not ruled it out. Hillary Dianne, Joe, and I don't under estimate another term via Michelle.

burninater
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burninater 02/13/13 - 06:02 pm
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It's been revealed the data

It's been revealed the data used for the famous global warming report was false.
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Has it? What report? What data? Was it data, or a prediction from data? Does the falseness undermine all work, or just a piece of it? Does it undermine evidence of the link between atmospheric CO2 concentrations and average global temps? Does it undermine the link between rate of CO2 release by human activity and atmospheric levels?

Unlike religion and some politics, science doesn't work by revelation or fiat. Please, provide the details, explain specifically what this erroneous data was, and specifically how the data undermines decades of work by literally thousands of scientists.

I remember a post where you admonished someone for treating the Savannah River as though it were a gutter rather than a complex system. Why pretend that the complexity of decades of work by thousands of scientists can equally be dismissed with a single disparaging impression?

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harley_52 02/13/13 - 06:03 pm
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"Because I Said So statements that ignore physical law are not."

Agreed.

But those kinds of statements along with ginned up "proof," forged data, and coordinated attempts to lie to the honest scientists and the public have all been part of the "scientific community's" efforts to confuse, deceive, and enrich those faking the data.

The credibility of the real scientific community has all but been destroyed by these charlatans and fakers.

Is there one shred of proof that man has had ANY effect on the earth's climate one way or the other?

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d1zmljqg 02/13/13 - 06:20 pm
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Humble Angela @ 10:17 am

"Was it a Republican who said "we have to pass this bill so we can see what's in it?" " Many a Republican has misquoted the sentence, but Nancy Pelosi actually said,

"But, we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it, away from the fog of the controversy."

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