Abortions deadlier than guns

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In 1970, Apollo 13 captivated our nation’s attention. The world watched as one, captivated, praying that the capsule Aquarius would protect the three astronauts and deliver them back to Earth. Less than three years later, an intrusive Supreme Court’s Roe v. Wade decision assured there would be no safe “capsule” for the unborn.

Legalized abortion turned 40 recently, and the latest poll suggests two out of three Americans want Roe v. Wade to remain law. I do not know whether to call those in favor ignorant, callous or oblivious. I stand lost at this misguided logic.

We are told that women must have a choice when it comes to their bodies. Frankly, I couldn’t care less what women do with their bodies. However, that which is developing in a woman’s womb is not her body but a new creation that longs not to be destroyed.

We are told a woman has reproductive rights. What do you think is being reproduced, a fish? No, it is this miracle we call human life.

Progressives will argue the government should stay out of that which should be between a woman and her doctor. Unless the doctor is an abortionist, then taking tax dollars to pay for abortion drugs and/or procedures is the appropriate choice.

The hypocrisy of “pro-choice” is immense. We all watched in horror after 20 people were slaughtered at Sandy Hook Elementary School. The left says take the guns because we must protect the children – unless they are in the womb. A medical instrument in the hands of an abortionist is just as deadly as an AR-15 in the hands of a demented shooter.

Our nation stands today terribly divided. This division will soon cause our union to fail. One of the significant seeds of this polarization was planted 40 years ago.

Barry F. Cook

Augusta

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DanK
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DanK 01/31/13 - 04:13 am
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Mr Cook, by your own admission, 2/3 of the American populace supports legal abortion and the right of women to make their own decision in this matter. There is no real "polarization" on this issue.

And it is misguided to lay the blame on Roe vs Wade. Before the court decision, millions of women in the U.S. sought illegal abortions. 15,000 women died each year from the procedure or complications like infection and hemorrhaging. So, before it was legalized and regulated, abortion was claiming the lives of otherwise healthy women.

It is foolish to believe that abortions will not occur if they are re-criminalized. They have been common in every society throughout history.

Perhaps those who oppose abortion should reconsider their opposition to birth control coverage in health insurance plans, to sex education in the schools beginning at a young age, and easy affordable access to birth control for everyone who is sexually active.

These three basic steps have proven successful in other countries, not only reducing the need for abortions significantly, but also reducing the incidence of sexually transmitted diseases.

The best way to reduce abortions is to reduce the number of unwanted pregnancies through education and contraception.

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Jane18 01/31/13 - 07:03 am
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Born And Bred To The System

No amount of education and availability to contraception is going to help people, any people, until they learn that "entitlements" are NOT the way they are supposed to live. You need to get out and talk to people DanK, you would be surprised at the complete ignorance(to ignore) of the younger people who have been "born and raised" under the system!! That's all they know, and in so many cases, all that is told to them! Pitiful legacy, don't you think?

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grouse 01/31/13 - 07:38 am
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The letter writer, like many
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The letter writer, like many anti-abortion protesters, is unable or unwilling to see a distinction between a zygote, a fetus, and a child. To compare the first two with the last in comparison with being aborted and gunned down is ludicrous and distasteful. I'm sure the parents of those slain at Sandy Hook know the difference.

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allhans 01/31/13 - 09:03 am
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Don't worry, we have

Don't worry, we have immigrants coming in to replace them.

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RMSHEFF 01/31/13 - 10:32 am
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Dank, obviously you don't see

Dank, obviously you don't see abortion as the murder of the unborn. Most likely you don't see euthanasia as murder either. Hitler didn't see killing the jews as murder. Its all about how you value life.

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What Happened 01/31/13 - 11:31 am
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Not saying the left doesn't
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Not saying the left doesn't have lapses in logic but have you right wingers looked at yours?

If banning guns won't keep them out of the hands of criminals then what makes you think banning abortion will eliminate all abortions???

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What Happened 01/31/13 - 11:32 am
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By the way how many unwanted
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By the way how many unwanted kids have you anti-choicers adopted?

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What Happened 01/31/13 - 11:33 am
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"No amount of education and
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"No amount of education and availability to contraception is going to help people"

Countries with comprehensive sex education and access to birth control beg to differ with you....

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GiantsAllDay 01/31/13 - 01:26 pm
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Barry Cook wants to go back

Barry Cook wants to go back to pre-1973? You mean those good old days where rich women went to Europe and poor women died? Since when life begins has always been the argument and we need to err on the side of caution, I say we throw men in jail for masturbating.

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 01/31/13 - 02:05 pm
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"If banning guns won't keep
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"If banning guns won't keep them out of the hands of criminals then what makes you think banning abortion will eliminate all abortions???"

One big flaw in this logic. The people that are killing people with guns are already criminals. Banning guns will not stop this. If you ban abortion, then you are forced to go "underground" to get that abortion, where you run the risk of dieing.....which in my opinion is a fitting end for a mother who is willing to kill her own child.

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 01/31/13 - 02:07 pm
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"Countries with comprehensive
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"Countries with comprehensive sex education and access to birth control beg to differ with you...."

You do realize that nearly every public school in the US teaches sex education, and that everyone has access to birth control, don't you? So what are these countries that you are talking about?

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Darby 01/31/13 - 02:26 pm
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"The best way to reduce abortions is to reduce....

the number of unwanted pregnancies through education and contraception."

In theory, this sounds really great. In practice, it comes down to looking the other way while handing out condoms in public schools.

The theory doesn't work or even come close to working. One that will, and has in the past, is teaching morality and constraint. But we can't do that because progressives believe that morality is basically the same as religion. They don't want to go there.

It's not of course but when our education system attracts only a relative handful of bright articulate teachers, with the rest drawn from the dregs of academia, what other result can there be?

Ever wonder why there are so few teen pregnancies in private schools, whether religious or secular compared with "government" run institutions?

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What Happened 01/31/13 - 02:38 pm
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"You do realize that nearly
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"You do realize that nearly every public school in the US teaches sex education, and that everyone has access to birth control, don't you? So what are these countries that you are talking abou"

Are you sure you attended school? I graduated from Evans in 2005 and all we got was "abstinence, abstinence, abstinence"!

"The theory doesn't work or even come close to working."

Putting your fingers in your ears and screaming "I'm right, I'm right" while ignoring that countries with comprehensive sex ed and easy access to contraception have the lowest rates of abortion, teen pregnancy, and STDs. The southern states are among the highest for out of wedlock births and STDs precisely because they don't teach good sex ed.

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What Happened 01/31/13 - 02:39 pm
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http://www.livescience.com/23726-birth-control-abortion-rate.html

But I know it's science so to you all that means it's liberal non-sense.

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justthefacts 01/31/13 - 02:39 pm
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Only 8% of women having an abortion had never used contraceptives. That would lend credence to Jane 18's comment. Over half of abortions are to women in their 20s. You saying they don't know where babies come from?

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Humble Angela 01/31/13 - 02:42 pm
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"Are you sure you attended
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"Are you sure you attended school? I graduated from Evans in 2005 and all we got was "abstinence, abstinence, abstinence"!"

Did you pay attention? Abstinence from what? From sex. And yes, we learned about condoms, pills, IUD's, sponges, etc etc etc. Are you aware that abstinence is 100% effective, or did you not pay attention during THAT part either? Sorry if you didn't pay attention, or were too busy giggling.

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Bizkit 01/31/13 - 02:44 pm
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Well you mentioned two arms

Well you mentioned two arms of the issue education, and birth control. The third is socioeconomic groups. In european countries all factors being equal it is birth control number one. We have an educated population-just under educated population. We have access to birth control-go to any bathroom in a seven-eleven and buy a cheap condom-and women have access to birth control. Yep the third arm is socioeconomic group. And the reason african-americans have the highest rates of unwanted pregnancies, and sexually transmitted diseases (especially AIDS). Now because they are african-american and much of this is really cultural then you will be hard pressed to find anyone who will seriously address this because of trepidation of being called a "racist".
Oh sperm and egg are haploid gametes-not a human being which will be resulting from the fusion of these gametes.
The rates are higher in the south because that is where the majority of african-americans live is in the south. We have a culture problem here. It isn't the same as Europe so the comparision isn't useful.
Did you know the first person to "legalize" abortion was Joseph Stalin in Russia.
It is murder but we murder in war, death penalty, Obama muredered an american citizens without due process and then kills innocent too with drones. I guess it is all relative.

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Bizkit 01/31/13 - 02:49 pm
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But the letter is correct.

But the letter is correct. Abortion has killed more people than guns. Most gun related deaths are suicide not genocide. Few crimes are committed with assault rifles. Of course that sort of science will be voodoo to progessives who chose pseudointellectual stances based on "their" vision of things. Science has mostly a neutral point of view,although there are nobel laureates guilty of fraud and numerous exposures of bias too. We all are human I guess.

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Humble Angela 01/31/13 - 02:52 pm
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" Few crimes are committed
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" Few crimes are committed with assault rifles."

Heck...they can't even define an "assault rifle."

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Bizkit 01/31/13 - 03:06 pm
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What I find so strange and

What I find so strange and hypocritical is progressives pitch a fit about voter ID (and infringing on voter rights) but now with guns they want background checks, ID, limit weapons, etc and don't mind at all infringing on a constitutional right that says it shouldn't be infringed at all. The machinations of the mind of a progressive is just too Bizarro world for my taste.

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billcass 01/31/13 - 03:45 pm
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Liberals love to talk about how conservatives deny science when it comes to evolution and climate change. But when it comes to the murder of the unborn, they turn a blind eye to science. You simply can't look at an ultrasound these days and conclude it is not a child. But they want to put blinders so they can continue to murder children in the euphemistic name of "choice."

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What Happened 01/31/13 - 04:41 pm
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A baby is a baby once it's
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A baby is a baby once it's born. Before that point, it is either a zygote, blastocyst, embryo, or fetus, or whatever. not a baby. That is like saying an acorn is an oak tree. Someday, if all goes well, the acorn might very well become an oak tree. But not today.

In the united states, there is no legal compulsion for anyone to loan another the use of their body against their will. My uterus is part of my body, and no action I take will require me to make it available to anyone else. I could sleep with everyone in my town, and still not be obligated to loan my uterus out for so much as a day.

Also consider that most women who have abortions already have one kid. Consider also, that many women cite the reason for their abortion as financial instability. There are other reasons (Mental instability, poor health, other kid is still too young to wean soon). Now, when you force a woman to carry a child to term that she doesn't want, can't care for, or can't afford, (or whatever her reasons) now you are deliberately condoning the suffering of multiple parties. Not only the woman - we have already been over that.

The other child - may not have enough food to eat now that mom has 2 (or more) mouths to feed. Now she has 2 malnourished children instead of one healthy one. Congrats, you saved one life, but shortened 2. This is exactly the situation in developing countries. The mother knows she can only raise x amount of kids, but she is property of her husband, who is usually a bipedal rutting pig. So she's constantly pregnant. has 12 kids, half of which are starving, and the philosophy is "she can always make more".

If the mother knows she is mentally unstable, then you are forcing the kid into an abusive situation. Congrats, you saved a life, but made it hell for the child.

If the mother is in poor health, that will be reflected on the child. Malnutrition can cause spina bifida, and many other congenital and permanent defects in a fetus. Congrats, you saved a life, but the kid is not confined to a wheel chair, and is costing society a LOT of resources.

Also consider that most pro-lifers are adamantly against the welfare and food stamp systems that most women depend on to feed their kids when they have more kids than they can afford. Congrats, you have saved thousand of lives, cost society billions of dollars, and made our taxes skyrocket to pay for these programs (which would not be needed if women had access to contraceptives and abortions when they needed them) OR, if you refused to provide welfare for the situation you caused, you just created a whole generation of starving, abused, neglected children. Aren't you proud of yourself?

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What Happened 01/31/13 - 04:43 pm
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Okay, lets say you all get your wish and Roe vs .Wade is overturned. Answer these questions with feasible and enactable answers:

1. Who is going to provide for these children? The pregnant women didn't want them in the first place, and forcing a woman to have a pregnancy she doesn't want does not suddenly make her into the bastion of motherhood. If she didn't want the pregnancy in the first place, there is no way to make her provide properly for the subsequent child.

2. You're going to bring up adoption next- there are currently 500,000 children in the incredibly stretched thin foster care system. Who is going to pay to provide for them? Until those half a million children find loving homes, you have no business suggesting taking resources away from already existing children.

3. What will you do to prevent the psychological and emotional damage done to children born to mothers who didn't want them in the first place?

4. How are you going to prevent the horrors of do-it-yourself and backalley abortions, which will occur?

5. What are you going to do about the increase in child abuse that is evident in countries where abortion is illegal?

6. How many unwanted children have you adopted?

7. How much of your time do you contribute to foster children?

8. Have you voted in favor of welfare, food stamps, and health care reform?

9.How are you providing for women who would have abortions for financial reasons?

10.Are you helping to provide birth control to low income women?

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What Happened 01/31/13 - 05:03 pm
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"One big flaw in this logic. The people that are killing people with guns are already criminals. Banning guns will not stop this. If you ban abortion, then you are forced to go "underground" to get that abortion, where you run the risk of dieing.....which in my opinion is a fitting end for a mother who is willing to kill her own child."

I hope you do not call yourself a Christian. When you die I hope Jesus smacks the self righteousness and sanctimoniousness out of you.

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Humble Angela 01/31/13 - 05:06 pm
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"1. Who is going to provide for these children? "

The mother and the father. It's called personal responsibility.

"3. What will you do to prevent the psychological and emotional damage done to children born to mothers who didn't want them in the first place?"

Far less damage will be done than if you kill them.

"4. How are you going to prevent the horrors of do-it-yourself and backalley abortions, which will occur?"

Anyone who tried to kill their child deserves any horrors that they get.

"6. How many unwanted children have you adopted?"

How many have you?

"10.Are you helping to provide birth control to low income women?"

YES. My taxes fund free clinics that provide free birth control.

You make this way too easy.

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Humble Angela 01/31/13 - 05:09 pm
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"I hope you do not call yourself a Christian. When you die I hope Jesus smacks the self righteousness and sanctimoniousness out of you."

hmmm..so a Christian can't want someone to be severely punished for killing? I didn't realize it was "self righteous" to desire to punish someone for killing children. Interesting take.

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What Happened 01/31/13 - 05:08 pm
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Go ahead and ban me
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Go ahead and ban me chronicle. I know you want to. If you don't tow the conservative lines it's censorhip for you! Please stop calling your self a balanced newspaper. You're a right wing, fundamentalist rag.

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Humble Angela 01/31/13 - 05:10 pm
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If you don't hurl insults,
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If you don't hurl insults, you don't get banned. Intelligent people are capable of disagreeing without personal insults.

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"hmmm..so a Christian can't want someone to be severely punished for killing? Interesting take."

Something that has no brain function and can't survive without being parasitic to it's host is NOT alive.

It's funny to me that the people who oppose any gun regulation tend to be strongly in favor of regulating marriage & lady parts. Remind me again which one is more related to personal autonomy rights?

You're so wrapped up in rhetoric that all the facts in the world would not penetrate your bigoted brain. Funny you did not answer one of my questions above either.

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