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Current immigration law makes it difficult for people who reside in the United States without legal status to get permanent residency or a work permit. Undocumented workers are subject to exploitation by employers; discriminatory state laws and administrative practices; and exposure to criminal violence because of a fear of interaction with the criminal justice system.

Even those with permanent residency can be subject to removal proceedings if they are convicted of crimes for which U.S. citizens are given little or no punishment.

Removal proceedings separate family members, place people in inhumane detention facilities and uproot productive workers to countries that they have hardly known. Undocumented workers are indispensable in agriculture; food processing; construction; domestic and custodial services; and hospitality. If they were allowed to participate fully in society, they could contribute in all fields just like citizens.

It is hypocritical for citizens to enjoy the benefits of a person’s labor and deny that person the basic human rights of security. Whether you arrive at a clean office building, or purchase tomatoes and onions at your grocery store, or enjoy dinner at a restaurant, you’re very likely benefiting from an undocumented worker.

Have the decency to urge politicians to end the current suite of unjust state and federal laws and administrative practices that prevent such workers from enjoying the protection of law. Let God’s commandment to do good for your neighbor extend to all those who make your life easier, whether you know their names or not.

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dichotomy
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dichotomy 01/30/13 - 12:35 am
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I've been urging this for 10

I've been urging this for 10 years..........AFTER they secure the border tighter than Dick's hat band.

There is two basic facts here. 1) We cannot deport 12 million illegal aliens. It's physically impossible. 2) We cannot offer a path to citizenship before we SECURE THE BORDER to keep another 12 million illegals from rushing the border to get their path to citizenship before we come to our senses and renege. We tried something like that before....back when we only had like 3 million illgal aliens.

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TrukinRanger 01/30/13 - 08:16 am
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I won't use the term undocumented workers - as they are still illegal aliens. However - I also believe they should be given a path to citizenship when certain criteria are met. At the same time I also agree that our borders should be secured and have our military patrol it. Most of the southern border is desert-like and the perfect place for training troops in middle-eastern type terrain. Why not have them on schedules where they break from training and do patrols? The logistics to round up every illegal in this country and ship them back from where they came from would be impossible. Give them a chance and stop new ones from coming illegally.

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Gary Ross 01/30/13 - 08:29 am
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A nice socialist point of view, but...

...where do we get the money to pay for this pipe dream? You want me to put off a rightfully EARNED retirement for 2 more years, against my will, in order to provide free food, a free home, and free health insurance for those who do things illegally?

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carcraft 01/30/13 - 08:33 am
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Fadal seems to want us to

Fadal seems to want us to cook breakfast for the guy we catch breaking into our house in the early hours of the morning!.

Bizkit
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Bizkit 01/30/13 - 08:34 am
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These poor immigrants who

These poor immigrants who broke federal laws should be made citizens. Then because the rule of law means nothing anyone in prison for a felony should be free, anyone in prison for breaking drug laws should all definitely be free. Now don't even bother to pay your federal taxes because what are they going to do? Make you felon for breaking federal laws-that would just be too hypocritical and ridiculous. We need to just give up on the drug war and crime altogether because they are too big problems to solve. I like this new American strategy-problem too big- forget about it.

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deportem 01/30/13 - 08:45 am
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Illegal Aliens

They are not "undocumented immigrants"! They are "Illegal Aliens". Stop trying to confuse the issue. Legal Immigrants did not sneak in or overstay their visas. Many waited for years and followed the law. Many are still waiting.
The government uses the 11-12 million number because they don't have the slightest idea how many there really are, or they really know there are a lot more, but don't want to upset their "amnesty" plans.
The real number is probably closer to 20-30 million. First of all, there aren'y jobs for the unemployed we have now, plus all of the troops that will be returning from Afghanistan. WalMart doesn't pay a living wage. The returning servicemen and women deserve better.
Second, the 20-30 million new citizens will form their own political party and take over the US in 10-20 years.
Three presidents have had the courage to round up and deport the Illegal Aliens-Teddy Roosevelt, Harry Truman, and Dwight Eisenhower.
Since the Mexican border is totally unsecured in many places, another rush for the border will happen as soon as the announcement goes out.
Illegal Aliens are foreign invaders, and our officials took an oath to protect us from all enemies-foreign and domestic. Our leaders are turning out to be our worst enemy!

GnipGnop
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GnipGnop 01/30/13 - 08:57 am
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Must be nice...

To have a politicial bloc that supports illegal activity of foriegners all in the name of getting more votes. The more I read about politicians in Washington now the more I think about being a libertarian.

carcraft
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carcraft 01/30/13 - 09:20 am
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GripGnop- The more I read

GripGnop- The more I read about Washington the more I think a Nuclear weapon dentonated in the center of our government would be a good start. The hypocrisy, idiocy and termanal stupidity is rampant! I just read that much of the governent complex in DC is powered by "gasp" coal fired power plant. As Ben Styan said, we are not required to provide proof of citizenship to vote but if we as citizens we are required to show proof of health insurance? LOL

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 01/30/13 - 09:56 am
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Show immigrants
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Show immigrants gratitude......YES.
Show illegal immigrants (criminals) gratitude......NEVER.

Why can't liberals seem to separate the two?

nofanofobama
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nofanofobama 01/30/13 - 09:59 am
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liberals like to talk about

liberals like to talk about un-documented immigrants as being in the dark*or in the shade*or some other mental image to show they are here but not counted or something..they say we must bring them out of this darkness into society after all its only fair because they are here..well the reason they are in the dark, or what ever our polticians want to call it, is because they are illegal and hiding...just like most crimes are done at night ..its so the criminal can hide..when will the politicians care about the 51 percent who pay federal income taxes and carry the load for the rest and now are asked to carry more for the illegals..perhaps the jobs the ILLEGALS are doing would be good starting jobs for teens and the un-employed and help cut our welfare spending..

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deestafford 01/30/13 - 10:11 am
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A few points here:

We need to get over this idea that everyone, everywhere on the globe has a right to immigrate to the USA.
We should only allow those in who can demonstrate they can contribute positively to the US and not some liberal theory.
There is this sterotype out there that all the immigrants coming here are hard working, family loving, people who are just looking to be able to pursue the American Dream of being all they can be. That may have been true decades ago but is not the case today. Recent studies show the number one reason immigrants come here are for the benefits given by the government. 70% of the immigrants in TX are on some type of government program.
Nobody mentions the number of gangs that are based on immigrant countries which are terrorizing the cities.
We should also get over this idea that illegal immigrants do the jobs that Americans won't do. If we do as Ben Franklin said,"Make it painful to be poor and you reduce the number of poor." we would not have as many sitting around getting government checks who don't deserve them. Most are not going to work when they can get more sitting on the couch than they can working in a field. There are in place procedures for bring in migrant worker legally.
Finally, you can thank Ted Kennedy, a member of the most destructive family along with the Roosevelt family in US history, for this by his 1965 legislation which changed out immigration policies.

KSL
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KSL 01/30/13 - 11:22 am
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Thank you posters for your

Thank you posters for your wise comments.

Red Headed Step Child
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Red Headed Step Child 01/30/13 - 11:26 am
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Really?

Unbelievable! I have a LOT of heartburn over this issue - my mother immigrated to this country over 40 years ago - she did it LEGALLY - has worked, paid taxes, and follows the laws of the United States. So being the child of an immigrant, who dutifully works, pays taxes and upholds the laws of the United States, I do NOT think we should allow anyone to come into our country ILLEGALLY -moreover, THANK them and reward them for breaking the law! I don't begrudge anyone for wanting to improve their life - but do it LEGALLY!
Yes, there are processes and procedures involved in getting legal access and residency that are not the easiest to have to deal with - but there has to be protocol and security involved otherwise why have immigration laws at all?? Why have citizenship at all??

As for it being hypocritical to enjoy the benefits of their labor - really? They are being PAID! It's not like they are indentured servants!! THEY benefit from having a job, in a lot of cases they are paid under the table, so they aren't paying taxes, etc. Do you think I can go to another country, live there illegally, and expect that country to take care of me? I know for a fact I can't go to my mother's native country and do that!

In my opinion, it all boils down to this - if you are not a citizen of this country, and you don't like the laws and requirements of being in this country LEGALLY - then there's one obvious solution: Go back to where you came from!

eagle
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eagle 01/30/13 - 02:01 pm
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Someone please tell me why WE
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Someone please tell me why WE (American citizens) have to change our immigration policy because people of other nations don't like it?

Don't like our laws/language...LEAVE NOW!!!

Darby
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Darby 01/30/13 - 02:45 pm
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"Whether you arrive at a clean office building, or....

...purchase tomatoes and onions at your grocery store, or enjoy dinner at a restaurant, you're very likely benefiting from an undocumented worker."

Of course if there were no illegals (undocumented is a politically correct construction) my office would not be clean, and there would be no tomatoes or onions to be found anywhere in any store and I'd have to go to the kitchen and get my own food in a restaurant.

Just waiting for someone to break into Mr. Fadel's home while he's at work (I'm assuming he's employed.), sweep his floors, clean his windows, then greet him at his front door, demanding payment for "services rendered". Then follow that up insisting on a room in the home for himself and his family, with kitchen privileges.

These people are on a par with the "cleaning crews" that accost you at traffic lights, shoot a little water on your windshield, smear it around a bit then hold out their hands for "payment".

Darby
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Darby 01/30/13 - 02:45 pm
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"Removal proceedings separate family members..."

Breaking the law, sneaking across borders in the dead of night, willing to shoot a border patrol agent if necessary, separates family members.

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Bizkit 01/30/13 - 07:23 pm
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We are all immigrants as were

We are all immigrants as were the American Indians before us. It is called immigration but it is evolution-gene flow. Except for mexican immigrants, no other nationality is allowed here illegally. Why the discrimination against all other nationalities? Does the Dream Act apply only to mexican immigrants or illegal indians, asians, and europeans too. My bet it it will be largely hispanics-with other nationalities held to a different accounting as is the present custom. I have had a number of friends from Japan and European countries who have been forced to leave America while legally here because of technicalities. I don't see a big trend in forcing hispanics back to mexico for any reason. This discriminatory practice needs to be addressed with immigration reform. It is being framed as purely a hispanic immigration issue-I guess because other nationalities are largely here legally. But immigration reform should apply equally to all rather than the progressive notion of only those they favor. Hmmmmmmmmmm.

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gargoyle 01/30/13 - 07:54 pm
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Nobody has mentioned this,

Nobody has mentioned this, but what about all the identity theft used by illegals with fake I.D's. Next how do you go about proving who is who without documentation from their home country ,as is required to enter our and just about any other country legally.I guess we must take the word of a person who isn't scared of breaking a law to be honest . I guess our goverment thinks only citizens of the United States need to prove who they are and show a passport upon entering this country

Bizkit
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Bizkit 01/30/13 - 08:10 pm
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Perhaps we should give

Perhaps we should give hispanics a quick path to citizenship and then hold them to a high tax rate to pay back for all the freebies we've paid for-or perhaps a one time fine of say 10-20K they can pay over five years. That is really a great deal considering the financial burden illegal immigration has cost us tax payers. We need to get them on the IRS rolls quickly so we hold them to a 35-50% tax rate. By the same logic of raising taxes on the wealthy because they need to pay their fair share, then no one can argue that the financial burden of illegal immigration would argue for them to finally pay their fair share too. I can't wait Obama need the revenue. But eh what about them being president-they have to be naturally born citizens. So it seems this maybe a problem later on when an illegal immigrant rises to power to become a potential president. That doesn't seem fair does it???

KSL
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KSL 01/30/13 - 08:14 pm
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Maybe obama will issue an

Maybe obama will issue an executive order to change that, Biz.

itsanotherday1
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itsanotherday1 01/30/13 - 08:26 pm
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I do recognize the need for

I do recognize the need for immigrant labor in agriculture and other areas, but legalizing those already here is not the answer.

Things should happen in this order:

1. Beef up our system for approving and monitoring guest workers to guarantee a supply of labor as needed. Special attention to the monitoring part, as a substantial number of those here illegally are those who had a guest pass and disappeared into the woodwork after it expired. We must have a reliable way to track guests in this country.

2. NO guest worker gets in line ahead of other applicants for citizenship who've gone through the apprpriate process.

3. With a reliable, legal, pipeline of workers now available; put employers in prison who employ someone without a legitimate green card.

4. Provide a special appeals process for humane reasons that would allow families to stay together under certain conditions.

5. Now that the majority of illegals have self deported (yes, that does work-go home or starve to death); or have gone home long enough to apply for legal worker status, lock down the border, and I mean lock it down.

I wouldn't even care if a current employer sponsored the travel back to where they came, and then brought them back to their old job. I don't have a thing in the world against these hard working people, except their illegality.

End the ANCHOR BABY laws yesterday! It has long outlived the purpose for which it was created; and is now just a tool for people to get their tendrils in the ground here.
I suppose it would require an amendment to the 14th amendment, but there has to be a way to uphold the intention of t he law without people abusing it.

KSL
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KSL 01/30/13 - 08:32 pm
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Add, charge Mexico for their

Add, charge Mexico for their freebies, like medical expenses.

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Fiat_Lux 01/30/13 - 08:35 pm
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GREAT comments on this absurd letter

I wonder if Mr/Mrs/Ms Fadel has gotten a clue yet.

We used to be able to deal with the parasites, illegal border jumpers and native-born Americans, but they've gotten so numerous and we've gotten so oblivious and/or stupid and tolerant that we're turning into a corpse.

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Practical Person 01/30/13 - 08:37 pm
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Really?

Some readers seem to have both a short memory and short-sighted vision. Georgia, with a wink and a nod, INVITED construction workers from South of the US Border to come help with the labor shortage during the Olympic Build. Those people were told, "It's ok. We'll take care of the paperwork." They brought their families, settled here and bought homes. Unfamiliar with our laws, they BELIEVED the falsehoods. The children they brought grew up here - today they are known as DREAMers. They are American in every way - EXCEPT through birth. Immigrants pay taxes, despite what some would have you believe. They CAN NOT and do NOT collect government benefits, again despite what you have been told. They avoid contact with the law. Families are being separated all because of LIES told to them by the "Good Christians" who now throw (virtual) rocks at them. Deporting people who have been good residents for many years is both unconscionable and just plain STUPID on multiple levels. Please people, get the real facts and stop blaming immigrants. Stop just "believing" the hateful false information you are being fed. Wise up. There's a whole industry making money by feeding you false information - laughing at your ignorance and gullibility. Look up CCA and Private for Profit Prisons. Then take a look at this chart. There's a reason immigration law is a tangled mess. Immigrants are NOT the ones benefiting from it. http://immigrationroad.com/green-card/immigration-flowchart-roadmap-to-g...

KSL
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KSL 01/30/13 - 08:38 pm
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Or whatever country.

I once encountered a couple who were not from Mexico that were here illegally and had been for 9 years. They worked for a very wealthy couple, like a CEO of a large corporation. Received a cell phone, room and board, and low wages.

Bizkit
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Bizkit 01/30/13 - 08:40 pm
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KSL I've sent Obama a request

KSL I've sent Obama a request to make Bizarro president by executive order. You can join my cabinent that I plan to form while Congress is in recess. Hee,hee,hee. We will make an awesome team.I had a good handle on the education problem following Bush's No child left behind with my Beat Yo' Childs behind program. And now I've got big plans to stimulate the economy. Stay the heck outta da way. This slow recovery should take off like a rocket.

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gargoyle 01/30/13 - 08:50 pm
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Anyone remember when Castro

Anyone remember when Castro solved prison overcrowding by sending prisoners along with the boat lift in 1980

KSL
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KSL 01/30/13 - 08:53 pm
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I do remember. He durn near

I do remember. He durn near emptied the prisons, or so it seemed when they got here and hit the streets.

Bizkit
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Bizkit 01/30/13 - 09:20 pm
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Apparently illegal immigrants

Apparently illegal immigrants cost Georgia (alone") 1.6 billion dollars a year. http://www.examiner.com/article/how-much-does-illegal-immigration-cost-g...
Then they break down the bad news into bits you can choke on. Gasp, gasp, gasp
So PracticalPerson, REALLY!!!!!!!! Appears your little rant was ill informed.

KSL
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KSL 01/30/13 - 09:18 pm
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Biz

I would be honored. I bring loads of generations of self employment to the table. I know about immigration, from the Mayflower to the late 1800's when my Italian great grandfather and his brother emigrated to New York. And I even have relatives with government experience, including elected officials. I have worked in social work, sales and the judicial system. I will be pleased and honored to serve in whatever capacity you and your advisers think is appropriate.

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