Nation turned against God

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The fall of Rome has been traced to several unrelated causes – from the rise of the Vandals, to changes in the weather – but ultimately Rome lost her favor and protection from almighty God.

The root cause beneath all the troubling issues facing America today is our rejection of God and His Word, the Bible, in all areas of life – religious, political, economical, social, aesthetic, medical and scientific.

For most of American history, the old King James Bible held center stage in homes, schools, courts, businesses and churches. But with the trampling and rejection of the Bible and dissolving of the separation of church and state (with the state now over the church) two generations of American savages have been produced – all with “rights” and Social Security numbers and guns, but no God. Godless environments always produce savages, and a savage with a gun always is a bad thing.

The First Amendment and Second Amendment stand and fall together. The reason for the most recent school massacre goes back to the First Amendment more than the Second. When children no longer are taught to fear and love God with all their hearts, to keep his commandments and to love their neighbors as themselves, they will revert to barbarianism, and barbarians must be disarmed.

God called wicked King Nebuchadnezzar “my servant” when He would use him to punish Israel (Jeremiah 25:8-9). Pat yourself on the back, America. You turned against God and His defense and protection by giving up your First Amendment. Now God’s going to turn against you, using His servant, President Obama, to forcibly strip you of your last defense and protection – your Second Amendment.

The Rev. Timothy Fellows

Aiken, S.C.

(The writer is pastor of The Church of Philadelphia in Aiken.)

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carcraft
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carcraft 01/11/13 - 09:43 am
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A brief, perhaps inaccurate history, of Israel

Techfan, the UN didn't steal it. After the collapse of the Ottoman Turk Empire at the end of World War I the land was administrated by various countries, Britain being the dominate nation in the Area. At the end of World War II Jews started immigrating to the area. The Jews established a large presents and through acts of Terror (the bombing of the King David Hotel by David Ben-Gurion being one) drove the British out. Egypt, Jordan and several other countries told the people of the area they would kill any one there when the drove the Jews out. Those that fled were put in settlements. These are the Palestinians we have today. Well the Arabs, in one of the worst cases of military leadership the Israelis won and founded Israel. The "Palestinians" were kept these camps and trained as attack dogs for the Arabs that hate Israel. The UN recognized Israel 72 hours after the War. There was no UN grab of land.

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carcraft 01/11/13 - 09:45 am
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Israel is the only country to

Israel is the only country to give the Palestians land. Jordan, Egypt both admiinistered the West Bank and Israel gave it to the Palestians!

carcraft
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carcraft 01/11/13 - 09:51 am
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Burninater drink another cup of coffee and wake up!

Burninater wrote " Christians were there at the end of slavery -- but they were also there at the beginning and they were there throughout its practice." LOL The Ancient Epyptians practiced Slavery. The Romans practiced slavery before Christ. the Israels (Jews of the Bible practiced Slavery but were very limited in it's scope and had to release a slave after 50 Years) I know you know better!

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RMSHEFF 01/11/13 - 09:59 am
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Techfan

Techfan, is your hatred for God limited to Christians and Jews or does it extend to others also?

burninater
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burninater 01/11/13 - 10:15 am
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carcraft. We're talking about

carcraft. We're talking about the "Christian nation" of America here. I know slavery was pre-Christian. Slavery in America was not pre-Christian. Sheesh.

carcraft
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carcraft 01/11/13 - 10:31 am
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Burninater- Slavery was

Burninater- Slavery was ended by Christians so even thought they were here at the founding of America you can't change the fact that it was Christians that were responsibvle for ending it. Wilberforce in England with a cohort of other committed Christians were responsible for ending Slavery in England reducing the number of slaves coming to America. Abolistionist in America, all Christians fought to end it in America. Now it did take about 100 years but the American government did end the evil practice. You still haven't commented on the 100 million or so killed by atheists during the last century.

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chascushman 01/11/13 - 10:34 am
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I agree
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“Now God’s going to turn against you, using His servant, President Obama, to forcibly strip you of your last defense and protection – your Second Amendment.”
Obama is evil he hates everything this country was based on.

RMSHEFF
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RMSHEFF 01/11/13 - 10:53 am
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Burninater

You have successfully pointed out that Christians are not perfect,we have, do and will sin. We are a "work in progress" and will not reach perfection until we are with the Lord. Until then , God will continue to chasten and correct those that belong to Him, just as a good father would do with his children. When a person who names Christ sins it brings dishonor to God and will not go uncorrected. As for those that do not belong to God, He will deal with them in other ways, including allowing them to continue in sin and reap the reap their just reward for their sinfulness. If you can sin and not be bothered by your sin, you may be in this latter group.

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shrimp for breakfast 01/11/13 - 11:08 am
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Look out folks

God is coming and he's really, really mad! He told me he's sick of Christians not treating their neigbors like they would like to be treated. If I said I wasn't a Christian all you rabid Christians would call me a left wing, abortion loving, socialist who prays to Obama and wants him to take away all your guns especially your M-16's that you use for deer hunting. Why don't you just buy a tank to go deer huntin' with. You don't even need to hit the deer. Anything close and that sucker is toast. Oh and don't forget to take your Bible along while you're hiding in your deer stand waiting to nail that 10 point buck which will get your picture in the Sunday paper holding it's head up saying looky what I kilt!

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GiantsAllDay 01/11/13 - 11:17 am
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My prayer

My prayer is: God please protect me from your followers.

shrimp for breakfast
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shrimp for breakfast 01/11/13 - 11:29 am
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HAHA

If you folks actually take me seriously I feel sorry for you. You see I'm a jokester but some of you folks take my comments way too seriously.
Lighten up and enjoy the day. Hey it's warm out! Rejoice!

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harley_52 01/11/13 - 11:37 am
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"Ignorance and righteousness are a truly ugly pairing."

You are talking about liberalism (or "progressivism") right?

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justthefacts 01/11/13 - 11:39 am
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Underestimate

I wouldn't understimate the abilty of posters to discern jokes from true feelings or true feelings disquised as humor.

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Willow Bailey 01/11/13 - 11:49 am
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I'd be interested to know

I'd be interested to know Rev. Fellows stand on gun control.

The Lord will use whatever or whomever; His mighty plan will not be thwarted. His memory is lonnnnnnnnnnnnnng, as He knows every hair on our heads...He knows every utterance, deed and comment posted on this site.

And for those who think themselves funny as they comment against Him, the Word says, God will have the last laugh.

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HenryWalker3rd 01/11/13 - 11:59 am
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John 10:10
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If we have hope in the Lord, there is no need nor room for "doom and gloom". No one knows the hour....not even Jesus. Stop waiting for it, but be conscious of the times.

Willow Bailey
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Willow Bailey 01/11/13 - 12:06 pm
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Henry, the scripture means we

Henry, the scripture means we are to carry on, not wait, nor not live in denial, but to do our best until Christ comes. Doing our best....now what would that look like?

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harley_52 01/11/13 - 12:28 pm
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duffstuff
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duffstuff 01/11/13 - 12:48 pm
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Who would God hire as a campaign manager?

Alot of Christians think it's their job to be crusaders of Gods judgement. Maybe if they displayed more of Gods love toward others, more people would see the merits of Christianity? One thing some Christians don't realize is the fact that this doom and gloom/judgment rhetoric does little to make atheists and non believers want to join the party (so to speak)

Think of it this way: If some of y'all were campaign managers for God, he'd probably fire you cause you're not winning him alot of votes.
People are drawn in simply by love and kindness. The fear and judgment they can learn later. People who sell fear usually don't end up with too many new customers.

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burninater 01/11/13 - 01:06 pm
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Slavery was ended by

Slavery was ended by Christians so even thought they were here at the founding of America you can't change the fact that it was Christians that were responsibvle for ending it.
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And the murder of Soviet citizens in the gulags under Stalin was likewise ended by Soviet Communists. That fact doesn't nullify their prior savagery; nor does the role of Christian abolitionists nullify the prior savagery of Christian slavers.

burninater
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burninater 01/11/13 - 01:10 pm
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"Ignorance and righteousness

"Ignorance and righteousness are a truly ugly pairing."
You are talking about liberalism (or "progressivism") right?
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I would be if liberalism (or "progressivism") claimed a monopoly on truth based on an infallible source, but it doesn't.

This doesn't exempt liberals/progressives from the ability to hold ignorant beliefs, but it certainly nullifies the evil of unfounded righteousness.

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carcraft 01/11/13 - 01:12 pm
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If I see a wall of fire

If I see a wall of fire coming up in back of your home while taking with you in front of your home what kind of person would fail to warn you that a wall of fire is approaching and about to take all your worldly goods? Is that gloom or doom to warn you? We are to tell others that Jesus loves them and offers his grace and love to them. God also wants us to warn of his judgments. When Christians turn the other cheek and say God loves you they are laughed at, when we warn of impending judgment we are condemned. I just read Mark Twain's "Remembrances of Joan of Arc". When she warned the British to leave France they laughed at her. When God used her to execute His judgment they accused her of being a witch and burned her at the stake. Many people simply do not want to hear God's truth.

carcraft
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carcraft 01/11/13 - 01:15 pm
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Ah, so if I possess unfounded

Ah, so if I possess unfounded righteousness that excuses the death and suffering of hundreds of millions killed by atheists? Please

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Willow Bailey 01/11/13 - 01:20 pm
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Is God in it?

In my lifetime, I have found there to be three "Christian Camps".

1) Licentious Christians - God is only love.

2) Religious Christians - God is only law.

3) Gospel Christians - God is both - love and law.

Most of us know that God is love, and we want that part, but love always has a price which is God's truth. He is never one or the other; but both. He loves us, but He is Holy and there will be a day of judgment.

I can agree with duff, to a degree, because it is our God, Himself, who draws us with loving kindness. But we mustbe very careful when we draw others to the party, that we are truthful with them about WHAT and WHOM we are celebrating. There's far too much being done in the name of God that has NO GOD IN IT.

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burninater 01/11/13 - 01:37 pm
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Ah, so if I possess unfounded

Ah, so if I possess unfounded righteousness that excuses the death and suffering of hundreds of millions killed by atheists? Please
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Carcraft, how does pointing out the savagery committed by Christians excuse the savagery committed by atheists? Who has even made that claim? NO savagery is excusable, whether it be Christian or non-Christian.

Savagery is an individual and institutional CHOICE, and history shows that some Christian individuals and institutions have been guilty of making that choice like some of their non-Christian counterparts. Ignoring that is where this LTE exhibits unfounded righteousness, and where this LTE is dead wrong.

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RMSHEFF 01/11/13 - 02:04 pm
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John the Baptist was said to

John the Baptist was said to be the greatest man born of woman who ever lived and he did one thing... preached repentance.

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duffstuff 01/11/13 - 02:33 pm
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My point is

My main point is, be aware of how you come across to other people. Make sure you're selling Christianity well because if you want other people to join then you gotta give a good sales pitch. If a telemarketer calls, you're certainly not gonna listen to what they have to say if they're all negative and want to judge you for having the competitors product. People will learn about Gods judgement and trust me...they've already heard plenty of that talk by most of y'all, but they will never make the first step into christianity if they feel judged by the people. Nor will they if they think its all about doom and gloom. No one wants doom and gloom. There's way too much of that out there already and its depressing. How bout for every bad thing you have to say about society you find two good things to say??

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harley_52 01/11/13 - 03:01 pm
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"I would be if liberalism (or "progressivism") claimed....

....a monopoly on truth based on an infallible source, but it doesn't."

If you really believe that, you're in denial.

Most liberals seem to believe the democrat party leadership is an "infallible source." No matter what history demonstrates, or common sense/logic dictate, most liberals/progressives insist on the infallibility of whichever democrat happens to be in charge. If you need proof, look at the last election and what's going on right now with Obama's economic/financial policies and "gun control."

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Willow Bailey 01/11/13 - 03:14 pm
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The Gospel is best shared by

The Gospel is best shared by living it out. Not perfectly, but always honestly.

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Bizkit 01/11/13 - 03:24 pm
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Carcraft Palestine is

Carcraft Palestine is mentioned in Joel 3:4. But the Phillistines lived in Gaza and neighboring areas and they were also called Paleaste or something like that-bascially Palestinian. So Israel has been fighting the Phillistines-Palastines for a long time.

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HenryWalker3rd 01/11/13 - 03:29 pm
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Missed it.
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Willow.

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