Atheists just don't get it

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A recent letter claims prayer does not work.

Like so many of his atheist friends, the writer makes the mistake of thinking prayer does not work because someone did not gain what they prayed for. But God Himself tells us not all prayers will be answered, at least not with a “yes.” If the intentions of the praying person are selfish or for wrong reasons, such as promoting a political agenda, then God will say “no!”

Unfortunately, atheists are a completely selfish, hate-filled people. I say hate-filled because they are unhappy, hopeless people who are filled with a jealous rage toward those who have the hope of our faith to see us through this life, while they have made a conscious decision to deny themselves this hope, by rejecting God.

Have you ever heard of any charity founded by atheists? No you have not, because they do not exist, as atheists are totally self-centered and cannot find it in themselves to be helpful to their fellow humans.

It is man’s nature to mock and deride that which he cannot understand. As for the common mistake the writer repeats in his letter, true believers are not ignorant about science. Why must people on both sides of this argument continue to insist that you must be all religion and no science, or all science and no religion?

I myself, as do all I know, embrace science as the study of God; every discovery just reinforces the knowledge that God made all. I took four years of biology in college, and I believe science proves God exists much more than it proves He does not. Do not forget, it was Christian scientists who laid the foundations for much of science that exists today. In fact, if not for the church, man would probably have suffered in the dark ignorance that was the Dark Ages for a lot longer than happened. But the scoffers have existed all through history, and will continue to mock, deride and reject the knowledge they cannot possess. Unlike them, a true Christian will feel sorrow and pity, not hate and rage, for those who deny Him, and will pray that maybe, before it is too late, they will come to know God.

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Willow Bailey
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Willow Bailey 01/08/13 - 02:53 pm
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I don't like the letter and

I don't like the letter and no I am not an atheist, I am a Christian.
We are all humans subject to ALL of the same God given emotions which very much includes HATE and anger. Hate is not always wrong, in fact there are many things that we should hate.

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 01/08/13 - 03:12 pm
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EEL...not a non-sequitur, but
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EEL...not a non-sequitur, but thank you for showing everyone that you don't understand that Christians can be sinners and seek help for a divine influence.

oneofthesane
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oneofthesane 01/08/13 - 03:18 pm
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And what, that's our standard for morality?
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Ummm, no. explanation : Eve bit the apple. God sent satan to earth.

oneofthesane
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oneofthesane 01/08/13 - 03:22 pm
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If you're going to use your "loving" religion to express hatred
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Perhaps some might perceive spreading of knowledge and stating things in a book that the opposite doesn't believe in, that point out the opposite's wrong doing could be considered hatred to those that do not understand the bible or God.

brds3526
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brds3526 01/08/13 - 03:26 pm
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lol

Please, do tell me about all of my wrongdoing.

oneofthesane
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oneofthesane 01/08/13 - 03:34 pm
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Please, do tell me about all of my wrongdoing.
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Yikes! Forget about the "holier-than-art-thou" crowd that happen to pop up all too often. You can take up whatever wrong doing you have done (pssst....we all have done them/and might do them unknowingly) to God and ask for forgiveness. Forget about those that use their understandings of the scripture to feed their need for outside approval and tell you you need to do this and need to do that and judge and judge and judge. Take whatever you have to God alone if you want. That is all that matters anyway :)

InChristLove
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InChristLove 01/08/13 - 04:06 pm
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pssst.....if their heart has

pssst.....if their heart has not be transformed by the Holy Spirit then they have no knowledge of wrong doing so why would they even consider the need or want to take it to the Lord alone and ask for forgiveness?

oneofthesane
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oneofthesane 01/08/13 - 04:38 pm
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"For if a man think himself
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"For if a man think himself to be something, when he is nothing, he deceiveth himself"

---Galatians 6:3

oneofthesane
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oneofthesane 01/08/13 - 04:39 pm
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"Any intelligent fool can
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"Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction."

---Albert Einstein

InChristLove
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InChristLove 01/08/13 - 04:41 pm
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Good Advice oneofthesane.

Good scriptural advice oneofthesane.

oneofthesane
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oneofthesane 01/08/13 - 04:45 pm
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"Criticizing others is a
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"Criticizing others is a dishonest way of praising ourselves."

----wisdom

oneofthesane
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oneofthesane 01/08/13 - 04:48 pm
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Good scriptural advice oneofthesane.
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Well thank you! :) I thought so too.

oneofthesane
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oneofthesane 01/08/13 - 04:54 pm
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"A fool flatters himself, a
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"A fool flatters himself, a wise man flatters the fool."
----Edward G. Bulwer-Lytton

Willow Bailey
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Willow Bailey 01/08/13 - 04:57 pm
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This has been my experience.

No one likes criticism, but used appropriately, there can be several upsides to it.

1) We can reflect and ask ourselves and God questions about it. Is there any truth in it? Ask God to show it to you, if it's true.

2) Seeing something wrong in another person, is the first step to seeing the wrong in ourselves.

InChristLove
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InChristLove 01/08/13 - 04:59 pm
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Since you love quotes so much

Since you love quotes so much oneofthesane, maybe this one will hit home for you.

"When words are many, transgression is not lacking, but whoever restrains his lips is prudent." Proverbs 10:19

The stage is all yours oneinthesane. Have a good day.

dichotomy
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dichotomy 01/08/13 - 05:17 pm
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RMSHEFF....."As for your

RMSHEFF....."As for your statement the women should be able to choose what happens to her body and she can, however with abortion there is another person involved. At the very least no one should force me to pay for the murder of a innocent life."

And that is precisely why I chose the name dichotomy. That exact situation presents a dichotomy for me. There is no perfect answer to the abortion issue. I know for many it is a strictly black and white issue but for me there is some overlap where it is gray.

BTW, I do agree with you about about not being forced to pay for abortions and I disagree with giverment funding of Planned Parenthood (which has nothing to do with planning anything and should rightfully be named Abortions Inc.). Nothing to do with religious beliefs for me, just my personal views on what kinds of things the taxpayers' dollars should pay for.

Willow Bailey
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Willow Bailey 01/08/13 - 05:35 pm
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@ICL "pssst.....if their

@ICL "pssst.....if their heart has not be transformed by the Holy Spirit then they have no knowledge of wrong doing so why would they even consider the need or want to take it to the Lord alone and ask for forgiveness?"

That is the catch 22 isn't it, ICL? We need the Holy Spirit to convict us, but we lack it without Christ. Good thing our Savior has other ways to bring us to the end of ourselves where we have no other choices left but to look up.

My favorite minister is famous for saying, "So, you are depressed, that's great news" and "our problems are some of the best things we have going for ourselves...embrace Christ in them."

oneofthesane
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oneofthesane 01/08/13 - 05:58 pm
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Yes! Love quotes! Love to read! Love knowledge! Love education!.
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Love working! I couldn't be the type to stay at home and whine and complain. You see, with knowledge and education, it is easy to recognize so much. With wisdom comes humility. With education dealing with the human mind and behavior makes ppl easily see through. Clearer than they see themselves for sure. Which makes for great comedy and pass time as with every passing moment, validity always follows (that's the fun part for me)...categorized human nature. But it would take intelligence to recognize it.

Willow Bailey
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Willow Bailey 01/08/13 - 05:59 pm
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uh oh.

uh oh.

InChristLove
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InChristLove 01/08/13 - 06:10 pm
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Yeah Willow.....Just sent you

Yeah Willow.....Just sent you an email. Sorry for the delay. :)

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Jane18 01/08/13 - 09:14 pm
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Rapture?????

Sheff, anyone, show me where the word rapture is in the Bible! You cannot...because it is Not in there! Trust me, no one is "flying" off anywhere!

RMSHEFF
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RMSHEFF 01/08/13 - 09:48 pm
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No, the word rapture is not

No, the word rapture is not in there nor is "flying." "Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up in the clouds together with them to meet the Lord in the air; and so we will be with the Lord forever. (NRSV, 1 Thessalonians 4:13-17) You will not find the word trinity either but the Bible clearly speaks of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost. You will wonder where we all went!

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tcowan13 01/08/13 - 10:16 pm
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I Truly Feel..........

I Truly Feel Sadness For Those Who Cannot See The Glory And The Power Of God's Love.I Have No Hatred For Atheists,Just A Complete Lack Of Understanding Of Those Who Do Not Know Gods Power And Gods Love.

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faithson 01/08/13 - 11:15 pm
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All True Love

All True Love

All true love is from God, and man receives the divine affection as he himself bestows this love upon his fellows. UB

some may claim this for their own... but I think somethun' bigger is going on !

Willow Bailey
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Willow Bailey 01/09/13 - 09:15 am
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Nothing Good

I completely agree with you, faithson. There is nothing good in any of us that God didn't put there in the first place.

"This is love: not that we loved God, but that he loved us and sent his Son as an atoning sacrifice for our sins." (1 John 4:10 God's Holy Word)

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soapy_725 01/09/13 - 03:40 pm
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Westabo Baptist is an LLC....
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with a huge legal staff that does nothing but file lawsuits. This so called church is another SCAM on society. They make money from HATE in the name of religion. But so does Benny Hinn and C.A. Dollar in the name of GREED.

rdillenb
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rdillenb 01/10/13 - 02:29 am
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timothy s. walker

How illuminating to read Timothy Walker has personal knowledge of God, that he believes all atheists are self-centered, selfish hate-filled people incapable of helping others, and that he believes it is "man's nature to mock and deride". Judging from most of the responses to your letter, Mr. Walker, it appears many folks "get" you if not "it".

KasparHauser
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KasparHauser 01/11/13 - 01:55 pm
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Tunnel Vision
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"if not for the church, man would probably have suffered in the dark ignorance that was the Dark Ages for a lot longer than happened."

Makes you wonder what they called the Dark Ages in China and the Middle East? You know, those godless places....

KasparHauser
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KasparHauser 01/11/13 - 02:03 pm
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Irony Meter Explodes, AGAIN
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"I have observed that the atheists seem to be more condescending towards others believes than most people.....generally speaking."

And, from the original article:

"Unlike them, a true Christian will feel sorrow and pity, not hate and rage, for those who deny Him, and will pray that maybe, before it is too late, they will come to know God."

Sorrow and pity?1 We don't need no stinkin' 'sorrow and pity'; we are The Agnostics!

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