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Revolutions begin with insignificant events, but we don’t have to wait long to realize how important they could become. Ours began with “Occupation,” which spread to hundreds of cities across the country but eventually became languid because of the physical misery and agony of the participants – even though the spirit and anger remain resolute. Very distinctly we were able to see the constancy and intensity of the two Americas that author Michael Harrington told us about more than 50 years ago.

This November, we faced one of the most important elections in our history. It was an election which defined in every aspect our two different countries – one showing our continuous decadence which started in 1980 with Ronald Reagan’s arrival. In spite of the odds against President Obama’s victory, he became re-elected in a revolutionary fashion. Blacks, Latinos, women, the food-stampers, those with no insurance, academics, college graduates and young people – all of whom voted for the first time ever in 2008 – made the dream possible.

This revolution will bring national health care for everyone; strict laws on election contributions; a way back to the civility that dominated the decades from the 1930s to the 1960s; a much-needed change to the Second Amendment of the Constitution and the destruction of the National Rifle Association, which distributes money to our corrupted lawmakers.

We are a very violent country. We were founded by way of exterminating our American Indian population and killing Mexicans in our quest to conquer “vital” territory for our survival.

No wonder some of our beloved states are mulling over a secession.

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TParty
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TParty 12/19/12 - 01:28 am
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Revolution? People are not

Revolution? People are not going to do anything besides write things on the internet. Banks can launder money to terrorists and drug cartels, and nothing happens besides a small fine because they are rich and powerful. That's how the rules are... nothing is going to change because of this election. Our taxes will go up, while spending is cut hurting the middle class, while our rights are being taken away- and the lawmakers having dinner with the rich and powerful will continue playing by their own set of rules.

nofanofobama
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nofanofobama 12/19/12 - 08:21 am
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huh

huh

Starvin Larry
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Starvin Larry 12/19/12 - 08:22 am
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"a much-needed change to the

"a much-needed change to the Second Amendment of the Constitution and the destruction of the National Rifle Association, which distributes money to our corrupted lawmakers."

It is not so easy to change the Constitution,or the bill of rights-it will not be done by those who elected Obama to a second term-a term which by the way-was barely won,it was by no means a landslide,nor was it the beginning of any "revolution"

What needs to be destroyed are the radical environmental and animal "rights" groups that have been making a living off of filing lawsuits against the federal government,and getting lawmakers to cave in to their outrageous demands-these groups are trying to take away our rights to fish and hunt,they are banning access to some public lands to hunters and fishermen,they are trying to ban all trapping,hunting with hounds,lead fishing sinkers,and ammunition,trying to ban target shooting on public land,trying to shut down public hunting areas in many states.
These radical groups are trying to stop ALL extraction of resources,trying to force all of us to drive electric cars,use whatever light bulb they deem best,trying to force us to use so-called "green energy" which costs far more than power generated by coal,or hydroelectric-they want to shut down coal power plants,tear down all dams so there is no hydroelectric power,and force us all to live in the dark,and freeze in winter in the northern states.
These groups give far more money to corrupt politicians,and are a far greater danger to the well being,and freedom of all citizens of this country than the NRA is.

You actually believe you can change,or get rid of the second amendment?
Any attempt to do that WILL start a revolution!

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Riverman1 12/19/12 - 08:47 am
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Obama is still killing

Obama is still killing Mexicans with Fast and Furious.

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Chad 12/19/12 - 09:11 am
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Don't Blame the 2nd Ammendment.

Change to the 2nd Ammendment is not the cure for the voilence in America. If you take away the tools will this stop the violence NO. In Japan, the total murder rate is almost 1 per 100,000. In the U.S., there are about 3.2 murders per 100,000 people each year by weapons other than firearms. This means that even if firearms in the U.S. could be eliminated, the U.S. would still have three times the murder rate of the Japanese. Whereas Japan’s murder rate may be low, its suicide rate is over 20 per 100,000 people. Combined, Japanese are being murdered and committing suicide at a rate of about 21 per 100,000. In the U.S., our combined murder and suicide rate is also about 21. The Root of the problem is the Operator of those weapons. The last couple of shooting were performed by young individuals that stole legally purchased weapons. A good question to ask would be why not ban Rental vans, Deisel Fuel and Fertalizer after the bombing in Oklahoma. Why not ban Doctors for medical mistakes that kill 400,000 people per year – the equivalent of almost three fully loaded Boeing 747 jet crashes per day – or about 286 times the rate of all accidental firearm deaths. This translates into 1 in 6 doctors causing an accidental death, and 1 in 56,666 gun owners doing the same. WHy not BAN Doctors. We can not legisislate our selves into a safe and happy place. There will always be some one that want to hurt us, take our money, or is just plan evil.

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Humble Angela 12/19/12 - 09:15 am
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"Our taxes will go up, while
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"Our taxes will go up, while spending is cut hurting the middle class"

Why is it you say only the middle class is hurt? How are they hurt if their taxes aren't the ones going up? Don't the liberals assume that raising taxes on the rich only hurts the rich?

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RMSHEFF 12/19/12 - 09:55 am
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Revolution in America

The writer must be referring to the Marxist revolution we find ourselves in.
Americans hired Obama to use the power of the federal government to confiscate the earnings of one group and give it to another group. What will happen when the first group leaves or stops working? Can you say " third world country"

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RMSHEFF 12/19/12 - 09:57 am
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HA is correct

Raising taxes on the wealthy only hurts the rest of us.

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JohnRandolphHardisonCain 12/19/12 - 10:33 am
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I applaud Mr. Godoy's attempt

I applaud Mr. Godoy's attempt at a broad analysis, but I think it doesn't go far enough. Let me begin with a specific example. The U.S. State Department is coming under withering criticism for its performance both before and after the attack in Benghazi, Libya on Sept 11, 2012. What Americans of all strips are missing is that this was a consequence of U.S. support for extremists for the simple reason that they wanted to overthrow Qaddafi. The entire U.S. intervention in Libya should be investigated and reviewed not just a single incident like what happened in Benghazi.

IMO Mr. Godoy places far too much faith in the Democratic Party establishment which is as culpable in the development of our corrupt and crumbling system as is the Republican Party establishment. President Obama, Sec. of State Hillary Clinton, and Sen. John Kerry, along with nearly every member of the Democratic and Republican parties who are elected or appointed at the national level, are members of an elite governing establishment which places the interests of corporations and super rich individuals above those of ordinary Americans. This is not democracy. It is plutocracy.

When Mr. Godoy talks about the "civility" to the 1930s to the 1960s he is talking about an era that preceded the civil rights movement. Segregation was legal back then. It was not a golden era.

I think it is highly unlikely that Obama will back campaign finance reform. Money is free speech according to the Supreme Court. The interests of corporations and their profits outweigh ordinary citizens and their needs. This is a major factor in our decline and contributes to violence in our society.

I have supported basic universal health care for 40 years, but it could and should have waited for peace. We learned during the Lyndon Johnson era that we cannot have guns and butter too.

If United States is going to develop an equitable, green, sustainable economy, we need a paradigm shift away from waging endless wars to waging peace. Drone strikes and CIA covert operations using the pretext of an anti-polio campaign in order to locate and kill Osama bin Laden will never lead to our security much less to peace or prosperity.

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dichotomy 12/19/12 - 10:41 am
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"Blacks, Latinos, women, the

"Blacks, Latinos, women, the food-stampers, those with no insurance, academics, college graduates and young people"

Hmmm, since there ARE Republicans who are college graduates, and there ARE SOME women who are conservative, I think you got those two wrong. As for the rest, yep, that is pretty much the groups who are not working, soaking up the welfare, not contributing, and draining the resources of the taxPAYERS.

The revolution is yet to come Joaquin. We are just deciding whether to fight it now or wait and pick up the pieces after the collapse.......if there is anything left to pick up. We know you are excited about your victory now but the "Oh my god, what have we done" moments will be coming over the next year or so. When the credit runs out and the lower and middle class realize that THEY will be paying for all of this, you guys are toast. That tingle running down your leg is just that.....an unfinanced tingle. You think it's revolution but it will turn to revulsion. When the communists take control, nothing good follows. And there is nobody left to pay the welfare......which will be a hoot in itself.

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jrbfromga 12/19/12 - 10:50 am
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Mr. Godoy
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You should go to any country who will take your socialistic corpse. You are clearly nucking futs.

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 12/19/12 - 11:29 am
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"Waging peace." smh....great
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"Waging peace." smh....great idea when people are trying to kill you.

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Jake 12/19/12 - 11:51 am
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@JRHC

I like your analysis of the "big picture" and not the usual political party junk we constantly get here.

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bubbasauce 12/19/12 - 12:49 pm
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AMEN dichotomy! Enough said!

AMEN dichotomy! Enough said!

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rmwhitley 12/19/12 - 01:33 pm
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Somebody
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forgot to take his medicine, this morning.

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JohnRandolphHardisonCain 12/19/12 - 02:51 pm
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I ask anyone who thinks the

I ask anyone who thinks the concept of United States using its considerable resources and soft power to wage peace is naive, to please explain how the war on terror which United States has been waging for more than 11 years is an efficacious strategy. More and more experts have concluded that U.S. drone strikes in places like Yemen are counterproductive. We are creating more enemies than we are killing real terrorists who threaten this country.

Remember how Soviet Union got bogged down in Afghanistan battling U.S. financed mujaheddin fighters. Now those same holy warriors have battled the greatest military power in the world, United States, to a stalemate. Overspending on the military coupled with failure to provide for its domestic population spelled doom for Soviet Union. It was predicted as early as 1992 that if United States did not curb its military spending, we would likely suffer the same fate as Soviet Union within a generation. Those 20 years are now up. We may indeed be on the eve of revolution, but it isn't the liberal revolution Mr. Godoy fantasizes. It is the revolution that marks the end of the American military empire.

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Bulldog 12/19/12 - 02:58 pm
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Just what was that about?

Someone please tell me what the Occupy people wanted. I was never able to figure it out...

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Humble Angela 12/19/12 - 03:54 pm
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"More and more experts have
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"More and more experts have concluded that U.S. drone strikes in places like Yemen are counterproductive. "

And more and more experts concluded that the strikes are effective....who do you lend creedence to some experts, but not to others?

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JohnRandolphHardisonCain 12/19/12 - 06:31 pm
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The fact is more and more

The fact is more and more experts have NOT concluded that drone strikes in Yemen, Pakistan, Somalia, Libya, and elsewhere are productive. Where is your evidence that it has, Humble Angela? Here is some of my evidence that drone strikes are counterproductive. http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/09/drone-strikes-in-pakistan-d...

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JohnRandolphHardisonCain 12/19/12 - 06:55 pm
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Drone strikes which are

Drone strikes which are targeted assassinations and extrajudicial executions are war crimes under international law. They are subject to persecution in the International Criminal Count at the Hague which former President George W. Bush removed United States from the auspices of even though we use the ICC to prosecute war criminals from other countries.

Beyond targeting specific "suspected" terrorists for assassination which is approved by the U.S. Commander in Chief, drone strikes can also occur on groups of military age men using so-called "signature strikes". And worst of all from a legal and moral aspect, U.S. officials in charge of approving drone strikes have allowed second drone strikes on first responders.

Under President Obama only 13% of those killed in drone strikes are known Al Qaeda or terrorist leaders. This is an indication that violence in our culture begins at the very top. Anyone who thinks there will not be legal, political, military, and cultural consequences from this illegal practices is deceiving themselves. Those responsible for these crimes will be held to account one day. United States cannot move ahead economically, politically, or culturally until we face the truth about our own war crimes.

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Humble Angela 12/19/12 - 07:36 pm
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Hmmmm....killing the enemy
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Hmmmm....killing the enemy that you are at war with is a war crime. Got to love it.

One thing I will say for Bush....he never targeted US citizens to be killed, yet I don't see certain people calling but one President a war criminal.

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Humble Angela 12/19/12 - 07:45 pm
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Seems like the people that
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Seems like the people that see the results believe they are effective. But let's not listen to them. We'll listen to political pundits who haven't see the effectiveness. It's a great deal easier to debate when you leave out anything that doesn't support your opinion.

http://www.voanews.com/content/pakistani-military-drone-strikes-have-bee...

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JohnRandolphHardisonCain 12/19/12 - 07:57 pm
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Obama become a war criminal

Obama become a war criminal within three days after assuming office in 2009. I wasn't pleased when Obama quietly sent 16,000 more U.S. troops to Afghanistan in April 2009 or when he reappointed Robert Gates as Secretary of Defense, but the breaking point came in December 2009 when Obama told the American people he was "temporarily" surging another 30,000 U.S. troops into Afghanistan. Of course, Obama said he was listening to the commanders on the ground in Afghanistan like Stanley McChrystal and David Petraeus. I haven't believed a word that has come out of Obama's mouth since then.

Just yesterday U.S. Sec. of Defense Leon Panetta again asserted that U.S. occupation forces have "turned the tide" in Afghanistan. He told U.S. troops in Afghanistan last Christmas that they were "winning", but nevermind what BIG LIE Leon Panetta tells this year because he is headed for the exit himself. He will be replaced as Secretary of Defense in Obama's second term. Chuck Hagel is his likely replacement. BTW, Republican supporters of the long failed U.S. war in Afghanistan did not protest when Obama escalated the U.S. war there. They though Petraeus walked on water or something.

Humble Angela, United States has NOT declared war in Pakistan, Yemen, or Somalia, yet it launches drones strikes on whomever it chooses in those countries whether they are U.S. citizens or not. The "war on terror" whether it is referred to as that or as "overseas contingency operations" has no definition and no end. There is a real risk of seemingly disparate wars merging into a giant conflagration that even a superpower like United States cannot control. Historians may well come to regard this as the beginning of WWIII.

Juan Cole reports that 176 children have been killed by drones: http://www.juancole.com/2012/12/lets-also-remember-the-176-children-kill...

And ProPublica issued a report titled "Have U.S. drones become a ‘counterinsurgency air force’ for our allies?" http://warincontext.org/2012/12/02/have-u-s-drones-become-a-counterinsur...

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JohnRandolphHardisonCain 12/19/12 - 08:49 pm
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Your VOA report, Humble

Your VOA report, Humble Angela, is from March 2011. Here is a more timely and unbiased assessment: "Analysis: US drone strikes in Pakistan's tribal areas create backlash" (Global Post - October 10, 2012) http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/regions/asia-pacific/pakistan/12...

And yet another cogent report from Pakistan dated 15 September 2012: "President Zardari asks US to end drone strikes, remove mistrust" http://dawn.com/2012/09/16/president-zardari-urges-us-to-immediately-cea...

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 12/20/12 - 08:39 am
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Not sure how much creedence I
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Not sure how much creedence I care to put in the statements of someone who declares someone a "war criminal" for doing things that are not crimes, ie appointing someone as defense secretary.

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JohnRandolphHardisonCain 12/20/12 - 01:28 pm
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So, you are denying that both

So, you are denying that both Bush and Obama are war criminals? I say they both are, and it isn't because of who either one of them appointed as Secretaries of Defense. You need to get up to speed on what constitutes war crimes, Humble Angelia.

"Ralph Nader Says Obama Is A 'War Criminal' Who Has Been 'More Aggressive' Than George W. Bush" 25 Sept 2012
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/25/ralph-nader-says-obama-is-war-c...

"Predator Drone 'Double-Taps' Highlight Possible War Crimes By Obama" 19 December 2012
http://www.policymic.com/articles/21070/predator-drone-double-taps-highl...

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 12/20/12 - 04:19 pm
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Well...in order to be a war
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Well...in order to be a war criminal, one must break a law. In order to break a law, that law has to actually exist. It can't just be things that some blogger strongly disagrees with. Even if that person is Ralph Nader.

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JohnRandolphHardisonCain 12/20/12 - 10:59 pm
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Targeted assassination via

Targeted assassination via drone strike or otherwise is against international war. It is a war crime.

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Humble Angela 12/21/12 - 08:36 am
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Against international war?
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Against international war? What does that even mean. Mr Cain says something is against "international war" and that makes it so? I didn't know that was how things worked. Personally I think Ralph Nader even has more clout that that. LOL

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KSL 12/23/12 - 04:54 pm
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He has always been an expert

He has always been an expert on war crimes.

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