No leeches allowed

  • Follow Letters

Why do all of the politicians keep talking about entitlements and mentioning Social Security and Medicare? I paid into these for years! Why are they not talking about cutting out or drastically reducing food stamps, low-income housing, Medicaid and welfare? A lot of these deadbeats who receive them haven’t paid into anything. They are leeches.

If someone is totally disabled or old and in need of help, OK – but only for a short period of time, and after their family, church and charities have done their parts. Deadbeats need to get off their butts and go to work or starve. I do not owe them a thing.

I have signed a petition to leave the Union. I have loaded my guns, and what really needs to be done is to tell the Yankee states that they need to leave the Union and join Europe, and we in the South will take this country back to the original Constitution as our Founding Fathers wrote it.

Any elected official who votes for any tax increases without substantial reductions in welfare programs needs to go.

Don Turner

Grovetown

Comments (23) Add comment
ADVISORY: Users are solely responsible for opinions they post here and for following agreed-upon rules of civility. Posts and comments do not reflect the views of this site. Posts and comments are automatically checked for inappropriate language, but readers might find some comments offensive or inaccurate. If you believe a comment violates our rules, click the "Flag as offensive" link below the comment.
faithson
4783
Points
faithson 12/02/12 - 01:50 am
4
12
I do not owe them a thing.

reminds me of the jim crow south.

specsta
6073
Points
specsta 12/02/12 - 03:15 am
6
17
Ignorance Abounds

Don Turner wrote: "A lot of these deadbeats who receive them haven’t paid into anything. They are leeches."

Great, another name to demonize poor people. Now they're leeches. Add that to deadbeats, lazy, entitled, greedy, slovenly, looking for a hand-out, etc. Some folks really hate poor people.

They feel that somehow something is being taken from them if a poor person is helped. Funny, they don't have the same thought when a billion-dollar corporation receives corporate welfare. It's only a problem when a poor person is helped.

Let's say we eliminate food assistance, TANF, Medicaid, HUD housing, etc. Poor children and adults will go hungry, sickness and disease will increase, homelessness will become rampant and desperation will creep in. Most mothers and fathers will do what's necessary to feed a starving child, even if it means knocking you over the head in the street to take your purse or wallet.

Refusing to help the needy is just plain stupid. If we have money to create and build weapons that shred people into chunks of bloody flesh, we certainly can have money to feed a hungry child or adult.

The US, despite its great wealth, has the second highest poverty rate for children in all of the developed nations of the world. The second highest. This is completely shameful. Romania has the worst poverty rate.

Yet, the ignorant among us still think that social programs do not have a place in this society. Exactly how hard-hearted must you be, to be comfortable with the fact that over 17 million children go to bed hungry in this country? That 33 million adults struggle to eat food on a daily basis?

Sometimes folks do not understand until it happens to them.

swcohen
563
Points
swcohen 12/02/12 - 05:19 am
6
12
Yankee states?!?

Mr. Turner is likely unaware that the majority of folks on some kind of public assistance live in the states that comprised the late, lamented Confederacy.

Oh, and he'd do well to check on that 150-year pile of newspapers in his driveway. War's been over for some time now. If he wants to leave the Union, it won't require any firearms... just a plane ticket.

Yankee states... hoo, boy....

wribbs
373
Points
wribbs 12/02/12 - 07:29 am
16
3
I don't think anyone that

I don't think anyone that shares this writer's opinion is saying throw all poor people out on the street. His point is that it's time for subsidized housing, food stamps, and constant government assistance for any of life's hardships to stop becoming a way of life.

As for an earlier comment about corporate welfare, corporations shouldn't be subsidized by the government either, that includes farmers.

Riverman1
79176
Points
Riverman1 12/02/12 - 08:09 am
6
2
Yeah, we all get a little

Yeah, we all get a little upset with too much government now and then. You could go hideout in the woods and come to my house for Thanksgiving and other holiday meals. I'll pass you off as a relative.

southern2
5309
Points
southern2 12/02/12 - 08:19 am
3
0
Poor? What poor?

With the average govt assited "taker" household costing the "makers" over $60K a year, how is it possible that 17 million children to go to bed hungry, as stated above? With clever little names like:
*SNAP
*WIC
*EBT
*Child Nutrition Program
*National School Lunch Program
*Afterschool Snacks
*Seamless Summer
*Team Nutrition
*Fresh Fruit and Vegetable Program
*School Breakfast Program
*Special Milk Program
*CACFP (Child and Adult Food Care Program)
*The Summer Food Service Program

You would think legislators could stop implementing these duplicate programs and give the "makers" a break. Compare a working family's grocery cart to someone who is provided these freebies. Guess which one has the lobster tails and which one has the pack of bologna?

Why not restrict each welfare receipient to only one program that provides 3 free squares a day and eliminate the redundancy, the waste, and the cost instead of threatening to steal "entitlements" from those whose lifetime of paychecks have been gutted to pay for S/S and Medicare, just as they approach retirement age, and this is coming from our friends, the Republicans.

I surely agree with LTE on this point.

chascushman
6653
Points
chascushman 12/02/12 - 08:34 am
12
4
“Some folks really hate poor
Unpublished

“Some folks really hate poor people.”
No we dislike the “deadbeats, lazy, entitled, greedy, slovenly, looking for a hand-out, etc”.

Bizkit
29123
Points
Bizkit 12/02/12 - 08:34 am
13
1
Social programs do have a

Social programs do have a place but not through government. Government is inept and incapable of that function as time has proven. The religions have always promoted altruism that has helped the poor and needy-still do to this day-still going to Katrina torn area and now on the Jersey shores. People get things done-not govts. Govts get us into we wars -we people have to fight.So we people fight another "we people" who similar at war because of their govt. Are we mindless sheeple as some suggest??? Biology and theology state there will always be war, disease, and famine-and you can add the poor too. It's logistical and biological-just like IQ and g. Forcing people to your willl as govts do is no way to go-people need to freely participate. I love giving but if some fool doesn't then fine-it's America consider it a freedom. YOu should have the freedom to be poor or rich-now Obama wants an "even" playing field-I can only imagine.

americafirst
958
Points
americafirst 12/02/12 - 10:10 am
14
1
Some people will never get

Some people will never get it. The reason we have such a disgraceful percentage of our population in poverty and on public assistance and food stamps is because of gov't policies.

avidreader
2957
Points
avidreader 12/02/12 - 11:28 am
12
0
What a Mess!

Situational poverty does not bother me. Catastrophic events happen. Families are blindsided by the results. These families are worthy of our compassion. It's generational poverty that bugs me. Ignorance abounds and is passed on to sons and daughters and their sons and daughters, and so forth. Fourteen-year old girls are popping out babies at a record pace, and there's no shame. There's no regret. There is no father in the game. There is no guilt, knowing that they are feeding from the taxpayers teat.

I teach many children who think that entitlements flow from an open faucet (and they're right), and they are deserving of these benefits simply because the federal government has billions of dollars set aside for them. They have no concept of wages and income taxes. They think that the government just prints money at its leisure. They have no concept of responsibility, fiscal or moral.

At the least, our government needs a multi-year plan to ween our generational recipients from the public dole. Of course, this type of plan would not fare well with the voters. Whatever happened to Bill Clinton's plan to overhaul our welfare system? So it goes!

soapy_725
43553
Points
soapy_725 12/02/12 - 11:29 am
0
0
An all powerful, all providing STATE
Unpublished

must maintain its FAN BASE. That is why we were told the "the poor will always be with you". It was not because we do not care for the poor. God knows the evil intent of human governments and calls them "beasts".

If we alleviate poverty. Remember the "War on Poverty". What will happen to Health and Human Services? What will happen to "Feed the World, LLC"?

Just like the "War on Illegal Drugs". Too much money and organization is a risk to remove this "sickness". What would the drug czars do for a living? maybe they could go to China and start another "Opium War".

soapy_725
43553
Points
soapy_725 12/02/12 - 11:37 am
0
0
The love of money
Unpublished

is the reason we have the poor. Love of Money is the reason we have a so called uncontrollable drug problem.

Everyone who has money does not love money. Most use money because it is the staple of daily life. But the few people who control the Global Financial Network love money, the power and influence it brings to them and their families. The control and stabilization of global finance insulated these few from all catastrophes. These we have known as kings, queens, czars, global bankers, kingdom builders, etc.

Conservative Man
5295
Points
Conservative Man 12/02/12 - 11:53 am
9
0
Agree with.....

....the posters about the "generational welfare" state....As a hard working person, it DOES gall me from time to time when I'm on may way to work at 5am to see someone lounging around with a "40" in their hand asking me for a "dolla'.

But I'm not an "evil cold-hearted conservative" as the left would have you believe... I DO think that there has to be a system in place to help those who truly cannot help themselves....the problem is that we have too many who WILL NOT help themselves that are in this system...

Back to the LTE.....kinda silly really..the question of secession was settled on April 8, 1865...

allhans
23216
Points
allhans 12/02/12 - 12:27 pm
5
2
"...unaware that the majority

"...unaware that the majority of folks on some kind of public assistance live in the states that comprised the late, lamented Confederacy."

The south!! What a great section of the country so many prefer to live in. (It wasn't so bad after all, was it?)

dichotomy
30418
Points
dichotomy 12/02/12 - 12:30 pm
11
2
Don't give me the poverty

Don't give me the poverty rate bit. The GIVERMINT sets the poverty rate and it has NO relation to being hungry OR poor. The rate is "set" using arbitrary measures by GIVERMENT agencies that need to justify their existence, and jobs, to pass out more of our tax dollars and draw $100,000 a year each in salary and benefits for doing it. Our "below the poverty rate" folks are living better than the "wealthy" in many of those countries that truly have poverty.

And do you want to know why we have such a high (artifical) poverty rate as compared to other "developed" nations in the world? Maybe it's because their demographics include a higher percentage of people who actually get out and go to WORK instead of purposely sitting home waiting for their EBT cards to be refilled and the GIVERMENT to pay their Section 8 rent and Obamaphone bill.

I'd say our "poor" are getting MUCH more than they deserve based on the effort they have put forth to earn it....which is ZERO. And I feel ZERO obligation, and I have ZERO guilt, about resisting supporting them at the same level that I am living when they are making a career out of living off of the taxpayers and training their offspring how to game the system so they can do the same.

People talk about poverty in this country as if to infer that WE are doing something bad to these people to keep them poor. The only bad thing we are doing to them is giving them just enough free stuff to take away any incentive for them to get off of their butts, get a job, and participate in the the real world....if in fact they are capable of participating in a competitive society. Otherwise, get used to "poverty American style" and enjoy your new Obamaphone.

DanK
779
Points
DanK 12/02/12 - 12:37 pm
5
10
The broader view

Mr Turner seems unaware that a lot of those people on welfare and food stamps are veterans, mentally or physically disabled, who fought to protect his right to spout crap like this. Mr Turner fails to realize that many of those who benefit from social programs are the wives and children of men who gave their lives for this country. He does not want to know how many are people who were injured on the job and unable to work, or that a large percentage of the elderly in this country do not have enough money to pay for both food and medicine, so must choose every day whether to eat. He lives in a fantasy land in which religion will save the poor, the sick, the unemployed. It has never happened and never will.

Georgia, like most red states, receives much more in federal dollars than it sends to Washington. That money is sent here, from the pockets of citizens in those blue states that he reviles, to help pay for all those programs he hates, like education, healthcare, food stamps, Medicaid, as well as transportation, military and contractors. etc. All of that money feeds the Georgia economy, creating jobs. Georgia, like most red states, is one of the states receiving "foreign aid" from those Yankee "socialists."

rbndawn
37
Points
rbndawn 12/02/12 - 01:51 pm
5
1
To Americafirst: I don't know

To Americafirst: I don't know what you exactly mean by "Goverment policies" I want to share this with you, I know a single mother of two that is illegaly here in the US, barely speaks English and has no assistance from welfare no even from the children deadbeat Dad's but has two small houses and rents one, a car and a truck and provides very good to her children, the only downside is that she has three jobs to go to work every day of the week. I can not find an explanation of poor on welfare. I wonder if somebody can.

Gage Creed
15631
Points
Gage Creed 12/02/12 - 02:23 pm
7
3
Hey DanK....let's make a

Hey DanK....let's make a deal....you take all of the folks using entitlements along with you and all of the folks that believe as you do, and move back to those blue states. You folks keep the revenue you generate and us red states will keep the revenue we generate.

I do realize this will never happen...but if you can honestly evalute the situation, you will see it makes the point of your arguement moot.

itsanotherday1
40059
Points
itsanotherday1 12/02/12 - 03:56 pm
9
0
No DanK, those are not the

No DanK, those are not the people Mr. Turner refers to. Those are the situational poverty cases the other poster mentioned, not the generational ones.

Though this is a real burr under the conservative saddle, we must keep in mind that "welfare" payments are a very small slice of the budgetary pie. Cutting it 100% wouldn't make a dent in the overall debt issue, as won't taking all of the money from "the rich". Both of those are just emotional punching bags for the two sides.

KSL
121050
Points
KSL 12/02/12 - 03:56 pm
7
3
Specsta

I don't suppose any of those 17,000,000 children that you claim go to bed hungry every night were born to people who were not yet capable of affording children, single parents who refuse to pursue support from the other parent, or drug addicts spending money to support their habit instead of feeding their kids.

A few years ago a woman knocked on my door. She was offering to wash my windows. Exterior. I was not about to let her in my house. When it became evident she was high on something, I told her to stop and paid her for what she had done. Two weeks later she and her husband were arrested for possession of drugs AND child neglect.

specsta
6073
Points
specsta 12/02/12 - 04:56 pm
3
5
@KSL

More stereotypes from the right. Actually, there a millions of hungry children due to foreclosures and job loss of a parent. Have you not been reading the news?

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/US/hunger-children-america-slow-steady-star...

KSL
121050
Points
KSL 12/02/12 - 05:55 pm
3
2
I forgot to mention that the

I forgot to mention that the child neglected was a teenager.

You win, but the corrected figure would be 16,999,999 children. We know of one child going hungry because of drug addicts.

KSL
121050
Points
KSL 12/02/12 - 05:58 pm
4
2
By the way

I do listen to the news. I do believe the mainstream media was telling us how much the situation was improving under Obama's superb leadership.

carcraft
24066
Points
carcraft 12/02/12 - 06:09 pm
4
1
People bought houses they

People bought houses they could not afford and so they get wefare? Americans spent $1 trillion dollars on welfare last year! This amount of money is not inconsequential!

KSL
121050
Points
KSL 12/02/12 - 08:39 pm
2
0
Carcraft

It wasn't their fault. They got coerced, tricked, taken advantage of by evil mortgage lenders and Wall Street. Also by Barney and company, but somehow he escapes blame.

allhans
23216
Points
allhans 12/02/12 - 09:38 pm
3
0
The highly rated countries

The highly rated countries don't think that everyone should own a home. They are incredulous that Americans think buying a house is a big deal...

Back to Top

Search Augusta jobs