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It is hard for me to believe that any Christian would vote for Democratic politicians who support and encourage women to kill their own babies. More than 50 million babies have been killed over the past 50 years by abortions. A fetal heartbeat can be heard around the fifth week of pregnancy.

The Sixth Commandment says, “Thou shalt not kill.” Let’s abide by God’s commandment and vote the unbelievers out of office.

Eileen Batten

Aiken, S.C.

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Techfan
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Techfan 10/19/12 - 04:32 am
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U.S. Constitution Article VI-

U.S. Constitution Article VI- "no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States."

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wayne2410 10/19/12 - 05:34 am
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I agree religious choice

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I agree religious choice should not be a requirement of holding office, it is just too bad that dividing your citizens into seperate groups on purpose for political reasons is not an impeachable offense, if so Obama would be gone.

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TrukinRanger 10/19/12 - 06:52 am
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How can any Christian vote

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How can any Christian vote republican-the party of wealth & greed with it's line of blind sheep following them? Would Jesus want to feed the poor? Would Jesus want to give shelter to the poor? Would Jesus disapprove medicine and healthcare for all his children? There is no rebuttal for this- Jesus would not come up with all the if and then responses going through your head... PERIOD.

Techfan
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Techfan 10/19/12 - 07:47 am
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See: Southern Strategy.

See: Southern Strategy.

TParty
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TParty 10/19/12 - 07:51 am
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What's funny is that

What's funny is that republicans say they are against abortions, until their mistress get's knocked up. Just as Republican Scott DesJarlais.

There's that saying "Only my abortion is the moral one".

Also- guess who said this: "One of the great things about our nation ... is that we're each entitled to have strong personal beliefs, and we encourage other people to do the same. But as a nation, we recognize the right of all people to believe as they want and not to impose our beliefs on other people. I believe that abortion should be safe and legal in this country. I have since the time that my mom took that position when she ran in 1970 as a U.S. Senate candidate. I believe that since Roe v. Wade has been the law for 20 years, that we should sustain and support it, and I sustain and support that law, and the right of a woman to make that choice, and my personal beliefs, like the personal beliefs of other people, should not be brought into a political campaign."

Techfan
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Techfan 10/19/12 - 08:11 am
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Gotta love it when you get a

Gotta love it when you get a thumbs down for quoting the Constitution. Do right wingers hate America that much?

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RMSHEFF 10/19/12 - 08:39 am
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Eileen

She is questioning how a "Christian" (someone who professes Christ) could support an abortion platform. This is a very good question and, as a Christian, one I continually ask myself. John MacArthur of the"Grace to You" radio program has a sermon on the radio about this subject. He accurately says, " The Democratic platform has adopted the sins of Romans 1 as their platform" From Abortion to Homosexual rights to removing God from their platform. This says it all. The fact is that all who profess Christ are not of Christ. You will know them by their fruits.
Read Matthew 7:21.

Young Fred
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Young Fred 10/19/12 - 08:41 am
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This should be interesting.

This should be interesting. Nothing quite inflames a liberal like an appeal to conscious.

Young Fred
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Young Fred 10/19/12 - 08:47 am
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Techfan, I gave you thumbs

Techfan, I gave you thumbs down for quoting the constitution concerning religion when this is a scientific matter.

RMSHEFF
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RMSHEFF 10/19/12 - 09:13 am
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They have no conscience.

They have no conscience.

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rmwhitley 10/19/12 - 09:16 am
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Excellent letter

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Mrs./Ms. Batten!

TParty
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TParty 10/19/12 - 09:19 am
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First of all- Christians only

First of all- Christians only like science when it fits their narrative- isn't that right "I didn't come from no monkey!!" folks?

More importantly Fred- this letter is about using ones religion to decide who you want in office. If you want only Christians in office- that's your person choice. So long as Christians know we are not a theocracy, this is not a Christian nation, and the rule of law in our nation, the one Americans follow and defend, the U.S. Constitution Article VI does say "no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.".

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d1zmljqg 10/19/12 - 09:23 am
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TParty @7:51

I'm going way out on a limb and taking a wild guess on your "guess who said this: Was it uh, uh..uh MITT ROMNEY?

btw he has lots of good ones. Now I know why he won the primaries, even Newt could not top him.

d1zmljqg
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d1zmljqg 10/19/12 - 09:36 am
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TParty

Mitt said,

"I purchased a gun when I was a young man. I've been a hunter pretty much all my life," (Yeah, 2 trips in his lifetime.) Read more on Fox News, don't overlook his stance on gun control

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,264026,00.html and try to understand what flip-flop means.

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Jane18 10/19/12 - 10:00 am
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The Sixth Commandment

Actually Eileen, in the Hebrew manuscripts, that sixth commandment reads, "Thou shall do no murder". There Is a difference between killing and murder(premeditated and/or criminal homicide). So, just by the premeditation(thinking and planning beforehand) I would conclude abortion is murder when used for convenience or not taking responsibility.

Young Fred
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Young Fred 10/19/12 - 10:17 am
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Thanks for the civics lesson

Thanks for the civics lesson TP. But I don’t recall anyone calling for a theocracy.

That’s the big bugaboo libs like to throw out when one speaks of how religion influences their actions.

Pretty much a bogey man created by the left. Gives them something to cling to, while us wingers are clinging to our bibles and guns.

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RMSHEFF 10/19/12 - 10:17 am
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TParty is confusing Science

TParty is confusing Science and theory. Science is provable and theory is speculation. There is no science that proves you came from monkeys. There is a theory that you came from monkeys.
I am unaware of anyone suggesting the Government should force someone to become a Christian. If you are a Christian your beliefs will be such that you will support a candidate that most closely supports what you know to be true. That ain't Obama or the democratic platform. It make no difference how many times Romney went hunting. I don't hunt and there is no bigger supporter of the right to bear arms than I. Gun control will come in through the "back door" ie The United Nations resolution most likely in the" lame duck" period.

Young Fred
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Young Fred 10/19/12 - 10:24 am
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You got that right RMSHEFF I

You got that right RMSHEFF

I can recall in the old Augusta forums about 4 years ago, people sarcastically posting such things as “ya, that’s right Obama just wants to take your guns LMAO, you fanatics are so paranoid”.

Kind of like many leftist today who besmirch those who point out Obama’s socialist/statist tendencies.

TParty
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TParty 10/19/12 - 10:27 am
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There is no theory we came

There is no theory we came from monkeys. There is a theory, that is heavily supported by evidence that there is a common ancestor we share with other apes. Just because it has the word theory attributed to it- doesn't mean it's only guesses. Just like the theory of gravitation- it's a theory. If you're science literate though- you can understand these things. Obviously if you're science illiterate, you're going to struggle and not understand.

My point I made earlier though- democrats get all the blame for all the abortions- even though republicans and Christians get them as well. I even gave a recent example of a republican Christian who wanted his mistress to have an abortion.

Young Fred
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Young Fred 10/19/12 - 10:47 am
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Techfan

See: Lyndon B Johnson's strategy

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soapy_725 10/19/12 - 10:59 am
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The Bible tells us what Almighty God

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views as SIN. Guilt punishable by death. What we as flawed, depraved humans conclude is disobedient to Almighty God is conjecture.

Almighty God's existence cannot be disproven. Fact or theory.

If a coroner signs your death certificate and you are buried, you have ceased to be a living human being. Fact or theory.

If a tree falls in the woods and "NO one or listening device" is in the woods, does a sound exist? Fact or theory.

Believing in something or someone. Fact or theory.

Believing that "a female has the right" to do whatever she pleases to her body (on her/his dime) is entirely different from a Constitutional Law that states that everyone in the US has to embrace and financially support the murder of that females inconvenience. To force me to finances a law that is contrary to my religious belief is not religious freedom. Fact or theory.

But American has never had "religious freedom". Ask the Oneida Community of Believers. FACT.

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soapy_725 10/19/12 - 11:05 am
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Christianity and its Bible Based Compass

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is all about FAITH. It is about accepting a disciplined life, hopefully patterned after Jesus Christ. It is not about human perfection. It is a belief that flawed humans can be accepted by GOD through faith in His Son Jesus Christ. It is what you choose to believe and why.

Christianity is in a morbid way akin to the female who "believes" she has a right to murder the tiny human living in her stomach because the tiny human will latter complicate her La Dolce Vida. It is what she believe and why.

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Jon Lester 10/19/12 - 11:06 am
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Why do I get the feeling

you'll be voting for the Mormon? And how do you know some of your other professed Christian conservatives aren't different from the GOP state representative in Tennessee who pressured his mistress to have an abortion?

RMSHEFF
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RMSHEFF 10/19/12 - 11:08 am
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I think we agree on the

I think we agree on the fundamentals however, you cannot prove scientifically the "theory" of evolution. It is not supported by the fossil record. It is only a evolutionary hypothesis derived by some looking at evidence. This same evidence is interpreted by some scientist show there is no evolution. I can "scientifically prove" that gravity exist. Just step off the second floor of a building. Science can only prove a repeatable event. There is no evidence of a continuing process of evolution.

You are correct that even Christians are guilty of this horrific sin but Democrats think their support for abortion,homosexual marriage etc is a virtue and proudly wear it as a badge. Big difference!

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Jon Lester 10/19/12 - 11:11 am
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You need to get on the side of subsidized contraception

for low-income Americans, which would be money much better spent than on drone strikes against Pakistani wedding parties.

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soapy_725 10/19/12 - 11:12 am
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The majority of voter are unbelievers

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Check your scripture for a theory on that subject. many are "called" but few are chosen. Politics is dirty and all who dive in become dirty. Politics and the resulting human governments are considered "devouring beast" by the Bible and its true believers.

Those who wish to create some sort of a Bible Based government in the USA or the world in fact, do not read their Bibles. If they read their Bibles, they would be preparing for a New World Order built by Almighty God and this present world order destroyed by fire.

The Evangelical Republican Party will not bring peace to this world and all who believe this are deceived. Has Saudi Arabia brought peace to the world? Has any so called Christian Democratic Party?

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RMSHEFF 10/19/12 - 11:23 am
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Jon Lester

I have already voted for the mormon! We are NOT electing a pastor, if we were I would not support Romney. His position is much closer to the values I hold as a Christian than Obamas positions I would in no way defend anyone who would who pressured his mistress to have an abortion? It sounds to me like there are several serious sins involved here. This would lead me to question weather He is actually a Christian. " Tares among the wheat." "You will know them by their fruits" etc.

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InChristLove 10/19/12 - 11:30 am
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Techfan stated "U.S.

Techfan stated "U.S. Constitution Article VI- "no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States."

That's true, a candidate for office does not have to take a religious test or be required to be of any faith whatsoever.....BUT Techfan, that has nothing to do with the letter Ms. Batten wrote.

Ms. Batten is saying that because most individuals in the democratic party believe it is okay to kill an innocent child by means of abortion and because of her faith she does not believe that way, she is requesting others who believe as she does, not to vote for what she feels are politicians who are unbelievers.

She never said they have to be believers or to believe in her faith or God, never said they have to change their views (although I'm sure she wishes they would), she simply stated that she doesn't agree and encourage others who believe like her to vote these individuals out of office.

Most likely you got a thumbs down because your comment has nothing to do with the context of Ms. Batten's letter. It's fine if you don't agree with her view but this ploy to distract by changing topics isn't working any longer.

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Bizkit 10/19/12 - 11:48 am
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Science is a process it never

Science is a process it never "proves" anything-only evidence that supports specific posits. Gravitation is a fact and science provides theory to explain-like general relativity by Einstein. General relativity continues to hold up to scrutiny as his definition of gravity as bending space-time. People will continue the process further refining theories on evolution, gravitation, light, etc, etc. etc. Science is a process. Don't be mistaken that any theory is just a supposition, guess, or a weak argument-oh contrar just the opposite.

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TParty 10/19/12 - 12:04 pm
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"It is not supported by the

"It is not supported by the fossil record."

What's funny is that the fossil record is great proof. In fact, a famous biologist said “Evolution could so easily be disproved if just a single fossil turned up in the wrong date order. Evolution has passed this test with flying colours.”

There is a lot of evidence out there. A simple one is too look at dogs. That is something we did as humans. Changed the wolf to a German Shepherd, bloodhounds, and tiny little dogs. Granted that is artificial.

There is a lot of evidence out there- all you need to do is read around a little. I suggest looking into John Endler of the University of California, who has conducted experiments with the guppies of Trinidad that clearly show selection at work. Or here:

http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/evo_01

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