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“If you’ve got a business, you didn’t build that business. You didn’t make that happen. Someone helped you.”

Those were President Obama’s famous words July 13. The remarks made by the president were demeaning and insulting to anyone who has worked hard to build a business and to accomplish this on their own.

I took personal offense to Obama’s statement in regard to my late daddy, Herbert Corbett. My daddy built his gas station and mechanical business completely on his own. Other than a small loan, which he paid back in full, my daddy had zero help.

He worked like three men in all kinds of weather conditions plus extremely long hours. He was an ultimate businessman who treated his customers with respect, dependability and honesty. The people in the community admired him for his workmanship and for his reputation. My daddy was considered top-notch!

Apparently Obama knows nothing about hard work, building a business and jobs in general. His economic ideas are certainly inefficient, and he’s totally oblivious to the debt problem. All in all, this once-great country is in a disastrous state.

I bet my daddy could’ve done a good job of reviving this nation. He was living proof that you can build a business on your own and without any help. Obama needs to know that you can “make that happen.” My daddy certainly did!

Ruth Pilcher

Evans

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Riverman1
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Riverman1 08/09/12 - 03:27 am
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Behind Enemy Lines

Obama said the one job he had in the private sector was like "going behind enemy lines." He promotes class warfare. He doesn't enforce the immigration laws and does away with the work requirement for welfare. He buys votes from the nonproducers.

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Techfan 08/09/12 - 03:47 am
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Maybe you should know the correct quote before writing a LTE.

"If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business, you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen.”

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Riverman1 08/09/12 - 04:57 am
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The Full Quote is Worse

“Look, if you’ve been successful, you didn’t get there on your own. You didn’t get there on your own. I’m always struck by people who think, well, it must be because I was just so smart. There are a lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked harder than everybody else. Let me tell you something—there are a whole bunch of hardworking people out there. If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business—you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn’t get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet. The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together. There are some things, just like fighting fires, we don’t do on our own.”

Techfan
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Techfan 08/09/12 - 05:22 am
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Gotta love the, "It wasn't

Gotta love the, "It wasn't taken out of context, but if was in context it would have been worse." rebuttal. He must have been a busy guy providing the power grid, laying the water and sewer lines, building the roads, drilling, pumping, refining, and transporting the gasoline, designing, engineering, mining the raw materials, and building all of the cars and trucks, providing police and fire protection, and for that matter, since much of our oil comes from the middle east, providing all of the security there to protect the fields and transport facilities. It's a wonder that he found the time to pump one gallon of gas.

Techfan
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Techfan 08/09/12 - 05:49 am
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If Romney had run against Lincoln in 1864:

"Last year my opponent, Mr. Lincoln gave a speech. In this speech he said,
"Four years ago our fathers conceived. Now we are engaged in a test. We are on a field.. We have come to rest. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this.The poor detract. The world will forget what they did here. It is for us to unfinish the work. It is for us that, from these honored dead we take. This nation shall perish from the earth."
This isn't the America I believe in. I believe in an America where millions of Americans believe in an America that’s the America millions of Americans believe in. That’s the America I love. End of quote."

mytwocentsworth
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mytwocentsworth 08/09/12 - 05:49 am
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Even better is a rebuttal

Even better is a rebuttal pulling pack to the level of roads, utilities, public safety etc. which of course the man's taxes paid for. Why not not just keep backing up to Grog discovering the fire and the wheel..wait.. keep going back... to the primordial soup or Adam+Eve..whoops, need the big bang or Genesis to have been before that....hmmm, before that?

Angie H
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Angie H 08/09/12 - 07:37 am
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What came first. The

What came first. The infrastructure that allowed businesses to be successful, or the successful businesses that paid the taxes to build the infrastructure?

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Jane18 08/09/12 - 09:15 am
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Herbert Corbett

Shame on you, Techfan! How dare you try to take away from Herbert Corbett's hard work and accomplishments. No, he did not physically do the things you spoke of, but, you can believe, Monetarily(taxes) he did! You really do disappoint me................

d1zmljqg
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d1zmljqg 08/09/12 - 09:48 am
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Ruth

"Deliberately editing Obama out of context is not a new tactic for conservatives." Taken from http://thinkprogress.org/

One of the worst usages I've seen was from a facebooker in AL where he posted the famous Iwo Jima photo edited with a small inset picture of Obama pointing toward the flag raising saying, "You did not do this by yourself."

How stupid can one get? Shouldn't credit be given to 6800+ that heroically gave their lives, how about the 650 Naval ships with thousands of crewmen that supported the invasion including the landing crafts, planes, personnel landing the heavy guns and tanks on shore, etc. Also, in fact the famous photo was somewhat hurriedly replanned in order to use a larger flag. How about Medal of Honor recipient, Jacklyn Lucas, who I personally met and talked with more than once? His heroic act was on the day after the 19 February, 1945 or 3 days before the flag raising. He too deserves credit for his actions probably helped his buddies to reach the top of Mount Suribachi.

So I say those Marines did not raise the flag without lots of help from their fellow marines and support personnel, and the facebooker jumped on the "take it out of context" without an understanding of how he was misrepresenting text.

btw Jacklyn "Jack" Lucas died in 2008 was the youngest recipient of the MOH; he had just turned seventeen five days before the invasion.

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TannerManor 08/09/12 - 10:23 am
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So take the simplest version

So take the simplest version of a "business" that I can think of - a kid's lemonade stand in the front yard. A table, a chair, a cardboard sign and a pitcher of lemonade. I can already hear it:

"Kid, you didn't build that! People have to drive down the government road or walk down the government sidewalk to get to your stand! You didn't make that lemonade. Your mama helped you make that lemonade. She had to drive on government streets, maybe over a government bridge to buy the 'Country Time' at the supermarket! I bet she even helped you crack that ice, didn't she?"

("Oh, and that'll be $50 for the vendor's license.")

Kid: "You know what? Never mind."

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grouse 08/09/12 - 11:42 am
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The letter writer evidently
Unpublished

The letter writer evidently knows nothing about context or chooses to believe the right-wing misrepresentation. I'm sure her "daddy" didn't build the roads to her father's gas station...

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burninater 08/09/12 - 12:18 pm
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What came first. The

What came first. The infrastructure that allowed businesses to be successful, or the successful businesses that paid the taxes to build the infrastructure?
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Actually, if we're talking about America, what came first was deficit spending financed with foreign loans. Just sayin'.

Angie H
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Angie H 08/09/12 - 12:32 pm
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So there were NO successful

So there were NO successful busineses before the deficit.....I call bologna.

burninater
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burninater 08/09/12 - 01:06 pm
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So there were NO successful

So there were NO successful busineses before the deficit.....I call bologna.
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Not following your logic here. What does the fact that America was founded on deficit spending financed with foreign (and domestic, should have included that last post) loans have to do with whether or not there were successful businesses at the time?

Angie H
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Angie H 08/09/12 - 01:32 pm
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My point is that the

My point is that the successful businesses PAID for the infrastructure.....they don't just leech off of it as the President implies.

Also, you claimed that deficit spending came first...I say you are factually wrong.

burninater
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burninater 08/09/12 - 01:32 pm
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I follow you now. And my

I follow you now. And my point is that America has had deficit spending for more years than it hasn't, with debt explosions as percent of GDP following WWII, and again beginning in 1980.

Some good charts here: http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/debt_deficit_history

Yes, some of this is waste, pork, entitlements, etc., but by no means all of it. Therefore, it is true that successful businesses paid for SOME of it -- but we never covered the full bill in most years. Which means that we didn't pay for all of it, which means we -- successful businesses included -- got a lot of this for free.

Except that it wasn't really free, and now we want to pay it down. Which means we all have to pay now for the free stuff we got in the past. And this includes successful businesses.

burninater
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burninater 08/09/12 - 01:35 pm
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Also, you claimed that

Also, you claimed that deficit spending came first...I say you are factually wrong.
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Feel free to check out any history book on the financing of the Revolution. America was FOUNDED on deficit spending. And from that point forward, deficit spending occurred more years than it did not.

Angie H
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Angie H 08/09/12 - 01:39 pm
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Ah....so there was no

Ah....so there was no business here before the American Revolution? I did not know that.

burninater
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burninater 08/09/12 - 01:42 pm
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Time to copy/paste my own

Time to copy/paste my own post apparently.

Not following your logic here. What does the fact that America was founded on deficit spending financed with foreign (and domestic, should have included that last post) loans have to do with whether or not there were successful businesses at the time?

Angie H
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Angie H 08/09/12 - 01:43 pm
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I'll copy and past you OTHER

I'll copy and past you OTHER post:

Actually, if we're talking about America, what came first was deficit spending financed with foreign loans. Just sayin'.

burninater
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burninater 08/09/12 - 01:48 pm
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But the fixation on private

But the fixation on private businesses at the time of the Revolution is a perfect example of this topic. The gov't provided a service -- expelling the Brits -- that was a huge service to private business. And the gov't was only able to do so by borrowing. For private businesses to then say "oh, sorry, we already paid for that service, it's your own fault it cost more than we paid, you're the problem, and besides, our business success has nothing to do with your Revolution," would be, in a word, ludicrous.

Angie H
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Angie H 08/09/12 - 01:50 pm
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My point is....there were

My point is....there were successfull businesses in America LONG before there was an infrastructure, OR the Revolution. You claimed that the deficit spending came first, which is factually untrue.

burninater
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burninater 08/09/12 - 01:53 pm
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I'll copy and past you OTHER

I'll copy and past you OTHER post:

Actually, if we're talking about America, what came first was deficit spending financed with foreign loans. Just sayin'.
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But on the subject of American infrastructure (which is what you were talking about) it started with deficit spending. Prior to that, it was a mix of public and private funding, with British financing providing a large portion of infrastructure services.

Angie H
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Angie H 08/09/12 - 01:57 pm
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Which came first...successful

Which came first...successful business or deficit spending on infrastructure.

Successful business came first. By over 100 years. THAT is what I was talking about.

burninater
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burninater 08/09/12 - 02:06 pm
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Angie, before the Revolution,

Angie, before the Revolution, the Colonies were exactly that. COLONIES. Of GOV'ts. Investment, security, and development were almost ENTIRELY financed by gov't spending.

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allhans 08/09/12 - 02:08 pm
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TWO thumbs up, Angie

TWO thumbs up, Angie H.
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We have two classes right now. The workers who pay taxes and the non workers who live off those taxes. How much longer can this go on.
No jobs for those who are looking ...not even after billions of borrowed money spent......

Angie H
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Angie H 08/09/12 - 02:18 pm
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Reaching.

Reaching.

burninater
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burninater 08/09/12 - 02:21 pm
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You're forgetting the third

You're forgetting the third class, allhans. The individuals that allow govt services to go underfunded while simultaneously stripping huge amounts of money out of their nations' economies and stashing it in offshore tax havens.

It's simple to forget them, as they are the 400-lb gorilla of this issue.

burninater
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burninater 08/09/12 - 02:23 pm
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Reaching? No. Imagining some

Reaching? No. Imagining some pre-govt capitalist utopia existing in N. America that never existed? That's reaching.

Angie H
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Angie H 08/09/12 - 02:34 pm
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You know why people keep

You know why people keep their money off shore? Because the entitlement crowd demands that the government confiscate more and more of it every day.

"Stripping huge amounts of money out of their nations' economies?" You make it sound like wealth isn't earned, but is stolen.

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