It's not the schools' job

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I am always amazed at what people think schools and teachers are responsible for in regard to their child’s upbringing (“No vulgarity,” June 17).

Since when is the child taught manners – “thank you,” “no sir,” “no ma’am,” no littering, no loitering, appropriate dress and other facets of proper behavior in our society – by a school teacher? It is the responsibility of the parents to teach their children how to act and behave in our society.

Teachers are there to teach and influence ideas, and to create a disciplined learning environment, which is very difficult when children are disruptive and have no respect for authority or their classmates.

Respect is taught at home. From my earliest childhood days, my brothers and I were taught to respect our elders, and always say “please,” “thank you,” “no sir,” etc. Be polite to everyone – you never knew who might tell your parents you behaved badly. Never, ever misbehave in school, because a note or phone call from the school would seem like a death warrant to you.

Now, it seems that parents believe it is the school system’s responsibility to feed and rear their children. My mother fed us our breakfast before she went to work and sent us to school. She paid for our school lunch or we brown-bagged it, depending on our needs. Supper was on the table within the hour she came home from work. No TV until our homework was done, and we loved and respected her, even if it seemed harsh at the time.

So if someone resents paying taxes for inferior products such as your children, remember: You made them what they are, not the school system. They are defective by your own design because you had years to influence their behavior before the school system received them.

Don Doman

North Augusta, S.C.

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desertcat6
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desertcat6 06/24/12 - 05:49 am
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I don't expect you to teach

I don't expect you to teach basic manners and how to be polite, but I do expect you to reinforce these basic priniciples while my children are under your supervision. If you have to hold a briefing to insure all the kids are on the same playing field when it comes to how they are expected to behave, I won't hold it against you unless you start including your own political or social agenda. Keep it simple. Thanks.

eb97
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eb97 06/24/12 - 09:00 am
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Don, you are so very right.

Don, you are so very right. What I am seeing is that some parents behave just as badly as their children in public towards others. One such parent had the police called on her due to her behavior being so disrespectful and this behavior was done in front of her children as well as the other children that were present inside this business. This parent doesn't understand why other parents want let their children play with her little bullies.

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dichotomy 06/24/12 - 10:01 am
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Yes, it is your job. The

Yes, it is your job. The liberal educators are exactly the ones who told us that we had to stop spanking our kids. That "I'm okay and you're okay". That everyone gets a trophy. That we had to lower the standards and pass everyone up through the grades so we wouldn't hurt their little egos. That we should "mainstream" "special needs" students and disciplinary problems. That we could not permanently expel little heathens and criminals and instead had to spend money maintaining a modern day insane asylum like Tubman. That we didn't need to feed our kids breakfast because you would take care of that for us. You liberal educators managed to get the laws put in place where the parents cannot spank their kids little bottoms when they need it and now the results of the great "no discipline" fiasco are in. Added to the results of the great "nobody fails" school standards and guess what? You are now reaping the rusults of the woefully misguided policies of the last 40 years.

So now we are telling you that we did what you said and you were 100% wrong. You have made the laws and set the standards where the parents are not capable of fixing it. Most of them have also been raised in this "no discipline, no fail" environment so they are not equipped to fix it. And even if they did some busybody would report them for child abuse and they would end up in jail. So yes, now it IS your job and we are paying you very well to do it. So quit complaining and start straightening up this mess that the liberal education community has made.

KSL
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KSL 06/24/12 - 10:10 am
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What Dichotomy said!

What Dichotomy said!

allhans
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allhans 06/24/12 - 11:30 am
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What KSL said!

What KSL said!

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scoobynews 06/24/12 - 11:55 am
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Dichnotomy not all of us

Dichnotomy not all of us bought into the liberal education movement so don't blame everyone for the actions of a few. This was not just liberal educators instead look towards your liberal senators, representives, and presidents of the past and future. The mainstream push also came from liberal parents who pushed the effort so let's say thanks to them too. No it is NOT my job to teach your child how to act nor will it be for any teacher my son has in the future. It is MY job as a parent to teach my child how to behave. I will do so gladly because he doesn't need the government to teach him how to be a good person as if it could looking at its current track record.

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eb97 06/24/12 - 02:47 pm
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Amen

Amen Scooby. Parents must take charge of their children, train them and teach them how to be good citizens. This will build their self-worth and how they feel about the world around them. There will be no need for everyone to win a trophy for just showing up.

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socks99 06/24/12 - 04:15 pm
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Doman is on the right track

Doman is on the right track but let's talk about the facts; children in the schools today are more or less like they've always been. Even better remains the fact that there are still plenty of fire-breathing 3rd grade teachers who can make all things good and right.

We have greatly expanded the number of mandates we've given to the schools; did a child not eat breakfast, then let's feed them all breakfast at school! If a child is mentally or physically disabled, then, of course, the schools ought do EVERYTHING they can -- regardless of cost -- to make sure they do as well as they possibly can.

I could go on. But this great expansion in education funding was not so much tied to the fact that there were more problems to be dealt with; or that policy-makers suddenly became more caring and sensitive; the expansion, itself, simply represented the fact that our overall standard of living in America and GA was rising! That rise made more revenues AVAILABLE for education -- and other things -- and so the "system" crafted ways to spend all the new revenues:

Now, revenues are declining, and schools are shedding some of their prior responsibilities; they have no choice in the matter and neither do the kids and parents: They will have to do MORE for themselves because the schools, per se, no longer have the money to do it for them!

Is it possible? Can the kids, parents, etc., be more responsible and take care of themselves without government help? Historically, doing just that has been the regular, expected course; it's been the ONLY way for most of modern history.

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KSL 06/24/12 - 07:28 pm
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What ever happened to Social

What ever happened to Social Services being called in to investigate if children repeatedly show up for school without having breakfast? Even if the parent has to leave for work before the child leaves for school there is no excuse.

KSL
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KSL 06/24/12 - 11:14 pm
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Here is what the school's job

Here is what the school's job is: to educate, to facilitate and maintain an atmosphere where that is accomplished (because afterall, that is what they are being paid to do by the taxpayers, who want to see a return on their outlay. They want to see educated students, not numereous students attending college who have to take remedial courses before they take basic freshman 101 courses, just so colleges can get the benefits of the generous funds from student loans.)

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