We're a nation of whiners

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A recent letter by one Timothy Bledsoe (“Face our real problems,” May 9) – comparing the “Occupy” movement to the expression of free speech as defended in the Constitution – compels me to write a few words in rebuttal.

First, I seriously doubt that the Founders were sufficiently depraved to be capable of considering the despicable behavior of depositing human excrement on the tops of police cars; public fornication; littering the streets with garbage and other human bodily waste; and performing other anarchistic hysterics such as these people have done, when they debated the matter of “free speech” in the First Amendment.

Second, the writer extols the virtue of the Occupy movement as a valid protest against the nation’s “problems,” which he very casually fails to identify, as did all the participants whom I saw interviewed during the height of the Occupy debacle. Their primary complaint seemed to be nothing in particular but everything in general.

Our moral demeanor and sense of personal responsibility have so sadly degenerated since the time of our enlightened forefathers that we have produced a nation of whiners and complainers who have become so accustomed to government handouts that any attempt at fiscal or moral sanity immediately becomes an object of vilification. The economic disasters that currently characterize many of the Eurozone countries portend our not-very-distant future if we fail to correct our present reckless course of deficit spending.

Mr. Bledsoe refers to the New Testament Book of Revelation in his closing paragraph. We voters could certainly use some revelations at the ballot box this November! At some point, the piper must be paid!

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Retired Army
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Retired Army 06/03/12 - 11:36 pm
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Sounds like Mr. Bedell is

Sounds like Mr. Bedell is whining about someone else's freedom of speech.

Oh, doggone it, I beat desertcat6 to the punch again.

desertcat6
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desertcat6 06/04/12 - 03:06 am
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Freedom of speech does equate

Freedom of speech does not equate to freedom to destroy, desrupt, delay, impede, harm, shock, or attack another person, public or private property, or encourage the same.

On a positive note looks likes RA has started to address the content of letters instead of attacking ACES, dehumanizing Republicans, or calling people who don't share your politics anti-Christian. Why would you think being 1st matters when you finally had a break through? Keep it up.

carcraft
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carcraft 06/04/12 - 05:32 am
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The old saying used to be "

The old saying used to be " your freedom ends where my nose begins". The occupy folks didn't care about others freedoms or rights, like the true whinners and babies they were it was all about them!

InChristLove
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InChristLove 06/04/12 - 06:16 am
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After reading Mr. Bedell's

After reading Mr. Bedell's letter RA, I fail to see where he is whining about anyone's freedom of speech. Actually I think he stated that "Their primary complaint seemed to be nothing in particular but everything in general." and it was unclear just what the particular issue was in which they were protesting. That's not whining, that is making a statement of observation.

desertcat, your 3:06am comment...how can you think so rationally at 3:00 in the morning?

CobaltGeorge
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CobaltGeorge 06/04/12 - 06:41 am
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Terrence Bedell

I think you have said all that needs to be said defining the so call Americans of the Occupy Movement. Great Letter.

southernguy08
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southernguy08 06/04/12 - 08:55 am
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United Whiners of America

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Yeah, that pretty much sums it up, Mr. Bedell. The fact that this is going on now, while our nation is going broke, and the incompetent-in-chief nor congress wants to address it, speaks volumes.

howcanweknow
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howcanweknow 06/04/12 - 09:16 am
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whine not?

It is ever so much easier to whine about your situation than to get a job and work to improve your situation.

Like the other letter today whines about having our big Gov't Nanny take care of us.

If we'd all occupy an occupation, there'd be a lot less to whine about.

faithson
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faithson 06/04/12 - 09:59 am
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money is power

when 1 % hold over 50 % I think we have a problem Houston. Some may find Oligarchy to their liking, especially the 'comfortable' class. To denigrate those who have the courage and fortitude to 'protest' this economic inequality, using examples of the degenerate few, only shows how shallow many are on understanding the real issues our country faces. Kinda like the alcoholic Father syndrome where everyone just goes along to get along without ever addressing the root of the family problem. Well sorry people who don't like protest, we have a problem and this movement is NOT going away anytime soon.

howcanweknow
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howcanweknow 06/04/12 - 10:18 am
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common sense

But, the "Movement" has accomplished nothing other than giving themselves a bad name.

Did you ever think that the "comfortable" class (however you define it) worked their whole lives in order to try and reach some level of comfort? Don't they deserve to enjoy the fruits of such labor, rather than to have the gov't demand that they be penalized because they chose to do things the right way and earned their position?

When any organization, especially a gov't, penalizes the producers and rewards those who do not contribute to the success of the whole, the entire structure will fall. Look at Greece and Europe. It's happening there right before our eyes. If we simply follow their example of socialism and "Nanny States", we're doomed to suffer their same fate.

madgerman
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madgerman 06/04/12 - 10:45 am
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HCWK. FYI Greece is part of

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HCWK. FYI Greece is part of Europe. I assume some royalty like Paris Hilton, John D Rockefeller, Ms McCain, Ms Kerry all started with nothing and "earned" their wealth.

faithson
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faithson 06/04/12 - 11:05 am
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the problem

the 'movement' has done a great service to the republic. It has coalesced a younger, more egalitarian and educated population. Southerners like their traditional ways and fight tooth and nail to keep the 'status quo'. Well, this isn't Kansas anymore Dorthy and 'change' is the catchword of this new environment. Just as we are living through a time of 'social change' that many would love to do without, we are also living through a time of 'economic change' and many who are comfortable with what they have do not like the 'adjustments' that must be made. economically on both sides, the givers and the takers are do an uncomfortable adjustment, and it is to our national detriment that we have such spineless, gutless, self serving politicians leading the way.

justthefacts
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justthefacts 06/04/12 - 11:11 am
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Degenerates

I wonder if the OWS folks will be out in force tonight to protest President Obama and the other 1 percenters hobnobbing on Broadway. Not a chance.

DMPerryJr
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DMPerryJr 06/04/12 - 11:36 am
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We Are Indeed A Nation Of Whiners

I agree with the LTE.
But let's be honest here folks: nobody does whining, finger pointing, political correctness and stereotyping quite as well as "conservatives". One need only to peruse the comments in the AC to see conservative whining at its finest.

thinkforyourself
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thinkforyourself 06/04/12 - 11:54 am
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Yes, The takers are a subset of whiners

Yes, all the people that are going to be upset because they can't buy new rims for their cars, can't get free housing for themselves, their boyfriends and, the unfortunate victims, their children. These are the same that do not do anything to better their own situations, have a legion of Democants that fight for their vote, and promise to make them "comfortable" with the working class's hard earned tax dollars. Some democants are really great at complaining that those of that work, just aren't christian enough, we aren't giving all that we can, and we aren't taking care of the least of these.... Bible clearly says, IF YOU DON'T WORK, YOU DON'T EAT! Those who can must and should be forced to work! We have an obligation to take care of those that can't because of age and disability.

Bizkit
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Bizkit 06/04/12 - 12:05 pm
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The OWS are just a bunch of

The OWS are just a bunch of kids lamenting the protests of the 60s-just they don't have a goal or a clue.

allhans
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allhans 06/04/12 - 12:27 pm
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The OWS kids are just having

The OWS kids are just having fun....they know where their b read comes from - Their upper class parents.
When the parents put their foot down the kids will get a job and in a few years will be one of those hated because they have made it to the top....

howcanweknow
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howcanweknow 06/04/12 - 12:37 pm
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If being "Southern" means

If being "Southern" means working for your own living and not expecting someone else to put a roof over your head and food on your table, than I'm proud to be a Southerner.

The only real "change" we really need right now is in regards to the "occupants" of the White House. Four years of the current "hope and change" is all this nation can take.

Iwannakno
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Iwannakno 06/04/12 - 01:30 pm
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The $50 Lesson

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Recently, while I was working in the flower beds in the front yard, my neighbors stopped to chat as they returned home from walking their dog.
During our friendly conversation, I asked their little girl what she wanted to be when she grows up.
She said she wanted to be President some day.
Both of her parents, liberal Democrats, were standing there, so I asked her, "If you were President what would be the first thing you would do? "
She replied... "I'd give food and houses to all the homeless people."
Her parents beamed with pride!
"Wow...what a worthy goal!" I said. "But you don't have to wait until you're President to do that!" I told her.
"What do you mean?" she replied.
So I told her, "You can come over to my house and mow the lawn, pull weeds, and trim my hedge, and I'll pay you $50. Then you can go over to the grocery store where the homeless guy hangs out, and you can give him the $50 to use toward food and a new house."
She thought that over for a few seconds, then she looked me
straight in the eye and asked, "Why doesn't the homeless guy come over and do the work, and you can just pay him the $50?"
I said, "Welcome to the Republican Party."
Her parents aren't speaking to me.

faithson
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faithson 06/04/12 - 02:12 pm
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being 'southern' only refers

being 'southern' only refers to a tradition bound culture that finds change, any change discomforting, et al: jim crow, voting rights, civil unions, yankees, good paying jobs, universal medical care, decriminalizing mary jane, paying taxes, immigration reform, women's rights, reduced military budget, gun control, bridled capitalism and finally, wearing flip flops to sunday services... but I'll tell ya what... the most honest, loyal and helpful souls in the world, love me my southern friends. thanks all

howcanweknow
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howcanweknow 06/04/12 - 02:34 pm
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Sounds like your problem is

Sounds like your problem is not a Southern thing, but a Conservative thing. Although the South is certainly more Conservative than the Left Coast and the NE Liberals, Conservatism is also quite strong in the Midwest as well. I assume you would consider the Dakotas as backward as the South?

If you wish to live with a people group that desires legalized drug use, redefines how marriage has been for thousands of years, socialism in which a few workers support many freeloaders, standardized medical care with fewer choices of practitioners, more gov't control of your life and less independence, and freedom for flip-flops, then by all means please relocate so you can find peace. You owe that to yourself.

Be warned though: long-haired hippies, free love, tie-dyed shirts, dropping acid, and acting "groovy" died out when these folks grew up and finally got a life (and a job). Some refused to do so, however, and headed west. They're still there.

Bizkit
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Bizkit 06/04/12 - 02:35 pm
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Oh the irony-all the

Oh the irony-all the protestors of 60's are likely the ones in charge now and being protested against by another generation -the OWS. Reminds me of Cat Stevens for some reason.

Shea_Addams
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Shea_Addams 06/04/12 - 03:10 pm
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Why do so many demand "income

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Why do so many demand "income equality" but not "output equality?"

What is wrong with 1% having over 50%? If the 99% work harder and/or smarter, they can have it too.

Shea_Addams
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Shea_Addams 06/04/12 - 03:17 pm
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OK Faithson, you say we have

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OK Faithson, you say we have a problem. Exactly what is the problem and what is your solution?

Shea_Addams
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Shea_Addams 06/04/12 - 03:18 pm
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"I agree with the LTE. But

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"I agree with the LTE.
But let's be honest here folks: nobody does whining, finger pointing, political correctness and stereotyping quite as well as "conservatives". One need only to peruse the comments in the AC to see conservative whining at its finest."

Oh the irony of someone pointing fingers at people for being "finger pointers."

Willow Bailey
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Willow Bailey 06/04/12 - 05:06 pm
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@faithson, "when 1 % hold

@faithson, "when 1 % hold over 50 % I think we have a problem Houston."

So, how would you define both the problem and the solution?

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