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I approve of U.S. Rep. Jim McDermott’s amendment to the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act to let the states enact their own Medicare and Medicaid for their citizens. Yes, let each state decide whether or not to opt for Romneycare!

The public option was to let Medicare compete with private insurance to let people choose whichever they preferred.

Medicare, like Social Security, has low overhead – unlike the insurance companies, which they secure by higher premiums and such. The problem is the rising health costs that the Affordable Care Act is reining in.

The highly taxed Scandinavians actually have more real income after taxes. They pay less in taxes for health care than they would for insurance! And the lower medical cost boosts the budgets of their nations! So, it’s a matter of bait-and-switch for politicians to call for more money in your pockets, meaning more for health costs for you – sucker!

And Scandinavians go on longer vacations and have other matters with which their governments help. They get their money’s worth!

By the way, if charity was sufficient, then we wouldn’t need our nanny state to provide us with unemployment insurance, Temporary Assistance for Needy Families, etc. The nanny state helps us to have life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness; to argue, as Gov. Willard Romney, for no real nanny state means the road to serfdom!

The nanny state empowers people, not making them idle at all! It takes away no liberty but enhances all liberties. The best government provides for the liberties, including FDR’s Four Freedoms!

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KSL
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KSL 06/03/12 - 10:42 pm
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Hey, RA, a third one!

Hey, RA, a third one!

KSL
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KSL 06/03/12 - 10:47 pm
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Have you letter writer received

I can not believe this letter. The only explanation is that she has been on the receiving end.

dichotomy
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dichotomy 06/03/12 - 11:28 pm
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Of course the highly taxed

Of course the highly taxed Scandinavians get a lot of good benefits. You know why. Demographics. Most of their people actually WORK and PAY TAXES. If only half of the Scandinavians were paying taxes, like in the US, their benefits would be less and they would be broke like we are.

I don't understand why nobody gets it. Capitalism, Socialism, Communism......none of them will work here as long as 50% of the people are paying 100% of the bills. You want Scandinavian style benefits? Then you've got to get the OTHER 50% to start paying THIER FAIR SHARE. Demographics my friend, totally different demographics. The nanny state will not work ANYWHERE if 20% of the people WON'T WORK and another 30% DON'T PAY TAXES.

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thinkforyourself 06/04/12 - 12:05 am
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R U SERIOUS?

LOL! The last welfare recipient I had a talk with told me "Why would I work when I would lose my housing, my food stamps, my medicaid......."

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itsanotherday1 06/04/12 - 12:23 am
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Dichotomy is winning the

Dichotomy is winning the batting title. Another home run!

Insider Information
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Insider Information 06/04/12 - 01:22 am
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Airfare anyone?

Flights are flying out of Atlanta to Scandinavia all the time.

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desertcat6 06/04/12 - 02:27 am
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Yes, when comparing cultures,

Yes, when comparing cultures, economies and demographics to prove something will work in the US, Scandinavia is my first choice too. Im getting tired of paying for the implementation of poorly thought out coffee table planning sessions.

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carcraft 06/04/12 - 05:46 am
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Schooling for children

Schooling for children probably cost less in Scandinavia so let's cut education spending now!

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Insider Information 06/04/12 - 07:44 am
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Nannies are for taking care

Nannies are for taking care of kids.

There is something wrong about this letter writer (presumably an adult) needing a nanny to take care of herself.

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Techfan 06/04/12 - 07:57 am
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Spending per GDP in the

Spending per GDP in the Scandanavian countries for education is roughly 30% more than the US. For defense, it's about 70% less. I'll go for those percentages in the US.
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/edu_edu_spe-education-spending-of-gdp
http://www.rickety.us/2011/06/2010-defense-spending-by-country/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+rickety%2Frss+(Rickety)

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allhans 06/04/12 - 08:45 am
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The Scandinavians don't seem

The Scandinavians don't seem to mind only keeping 50% of their earnings, at least everyONE
has to work.
I like our way better , but whatever...

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southernguy08 06/04/12 - 08:51 am
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MEDICARE & SOCIAL SECURITY HAVE LOW OVERHEAD?
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Well, I guess that explains why both are in such great financial shape, eh? Morgan, you be sure to show all of this to your teammates working for Obama's re-election, okay? You guys need some good news.

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KSL 06/04/12 - 08:51 am
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Who wants to invade and take

Who wants to invade and take over Scandinavian countries?

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KSL 06/04/12 - 08:56 am
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Oh yeah, Germany did. But

Oh yeah, Germany did. But they needed something they didn't have enough of.

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JRC2024 06/04/12 - 09:11 am
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dichotomy you have it right.

dichotomy you have it right.

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mikesaul 06/04/12 - 09:15 am
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"50% of the people are paying 100% of the bills"?

Seriously?!? The days when 50% were paying the bills are long gone! We are past the point where nearly 50% of the voting-age population pay nothing into our system! The next 10% EFFECTIVELY pay nothing in (anyone who receives more FROM the government than they pay in are not paying anything in)! The next 5% are paying in just enough to cover the cost of processing their tax payments, and nothing more!

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justthefacts 06/04/12 - 09:21 am
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The lone Ranger

Yes, whenever disaster happens anywhere, flood, hurricane, volcano or some two bit dictator starts killing everyone in sight. Who comes to the rescue....the Scandinavians?

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dstewartsr 06/04/12 - 09:41 am
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I would love to live

...in a scandinavian-style country; I've visited both Norway and Sweden. While they do not have huge defense budgets and do have cradle to grave health and welfare, one thing they do not have is an entire multi-generational leech class. Even with the global downturn in the economy, actual unemployment runs around ten percent; this is unlike the US where people who've never worked --and never will, short of starvation-- aren't counted.

Fully 85-90% of the citizens are contributing members. In the US, that number is hovering --including retirees as not unemployed-- at sixty percent. A major factor is the homogenous nature of the society; there are no ethnic minorities to be paid off or votes to be bought. Immigration is limited, and, what is more important, well policed. Both of these are quite the reverse here.

Makes all the difference in the world.

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nofanofobama 06/04/12 - 09:46 am
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tech..if it wasnt for the us

tech..if it wasnt for the us military ..we could not have this debate on percentage of spending for this and that..but then again the left lives in a fantasy world, one of no adverseries, no conflicts except those caused by the USA.

KSL
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KSL 06/04/12 - 10:10 am
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I am hoping this letter

I am hoping this letter writer is just not up to date on the latest on the cost of obamacare. The projections have ocare increasing the costs of both medicare and insurance.

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Bizkit 06/04/12 - 11:47 am
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The Scandanavian counties are

The Scandanavian counties are welfare states, and besides the great loss of freedom, the picture isn't as rosy as letter suggest. Government spending as a percentage of GDP consumes a larger share in all Nordic nations than it does in the United States. Sweden has the biggest burden of government, followed by Denmark and Finland, with Iceland and Norway closer to the American level. In respect to "income inequality", the poorest 10 percent of Americans have about the same level of income as the poorest 10 percent of Finns, Swedes, and Danes. Only in oil-rich Norway is there a noticeable gap. What differentiates America from the Nordic nations is the income of everyone else. The rich, the middle class, and the working class in the United States enjoy higher levels of income than their Nordic counterparts. The long-term development, however, may not be as positive. As was one researcher explained, "Over the last decade, the incomes of the poorest 10% of the population have grown eight times faster in Ireland than in Sweden, and six times faster in Britain. As a result, so-called Anglo-Saxon economies like Ireland and the UK now for the first time have a smaller proportion of their population below the poverty line than does Sweden."This would suggest that strong economic growth is better than income redistribution if the goal is to help the least fortunate in society.

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Bizkit 06/04/12 - 12:00 pm
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The letter writer isn't of

The letter writer isn't of the ilk of striving for excellence but of the European ilk of satisfaction with mediocre. America is still number 1-even over China.

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faithson 06/04/12 - 12:07 pm
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nofan... I prefer fantasy

nofan... I prefer fantasy over delusion, and your delusional if you think projecting American military exceptionalism around the world is a 'good' thing... fearing other nations into submission is not a 'stable' policy.

nofanofobama
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nofanofobama 06/04/12 - 12:12 pm
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where would the world be with

where would the world be with out the USA military????..we have made mistakes but if you prefer fantasy...fine...zeig heil...

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allhans 06/04/12 - 12:14 pm
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I like the image of being

I like the image of being the big guy on the block. Like, 'don't mess with me'.
I call it pride, but then I would, I am a patriotic American.

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nofanofobama 06/04/12 - 12:15 pm
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state "fearing other nations

state "fearing other nations into submission is not a stable policy" as i posted earlier blame america first...thank you for agreeing with me by example..

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impossible 06/04/12 - 01:16 pm
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Morgan-Lynn Griggs Lamberth -
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Morgan-Lynn Griggs Lamberth - WOW! You might consider leaving the fantasy-delusion highway of liberalism/socialim/Marxism and travel the sensible road to Rush Limbaugh's Real Ville. Listen carefully with an open mind and you will come to know that he is not merely "right" but actually right, as in correct.

What is this "FDR?" A "freshadowing destruction of Republic," fits nicely.

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faithson 06/04/12 - 01:45 pm
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greatness

the greatness of a country can be expressed by it's ability to create a formidable military enterprise to 'secure' itself, without making the terrible mistake of using such power in an offensive way to further its own foreign policy. Be careful of 'war justification' on the premise given by men who sit in high places and just write the checks... how much skin one has in the 'game' is always a prudent marker.

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Bizkit 06/04/12 - 02:24 pm
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Lambert should have stated

Lambert should have stated "she" rather than "we" need a nanny state-oh the progressive mindset. Just think if she is a middle class American citizen she can move to a Scandanavian country and live like a king for year, but once she has a job there then she will be so glad and feel patriotic to pay most of her (now less) income to the govt which will take of her in her Garden of Eden. Good luck on your journey-you will be so much happier there than here by all "your" standards. "Me"-personally I walk a different path where I would prefer anarchy to more govt. I just love America is a melting pot where we can both chase our dreams.

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Bizkit 06/04/12 - 02:31 pm
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Wow, wouldn't it be cool to

Wow, wouldn't it be cool to have each state to decide to be socialist (or more specifically communist if the population demands) or a liberal small transparent govt with lots of personal freedom. That way I can move to a state will little taxes and little govt. and Lambert can move to a socialist state where she can enjoy the high taxes and nanny state as she laments. Hmmmmmm.

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