Cartoon showed intolerance

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Regarding the May 13 editorial cartoon implying that Muslim women want to raise their children to be “underwear bombers,” and by implication that all Muslims are extremists:

Gross generalizations that stereotype people of varying faiths and ethnic and cultural backgrounds do all of us a disservice. All religions contain groups and individuals who become extremist and who do not represent the vast majority of individuals in that religious group.

Perhaps your cartoonist would like to publish a cartoon implying that Christian mothers want their children to grow up to be like Timothy McVeigh, Anders Breivik or Eric Rudolph, or to join the Ku Klux Klan; or a cartoon implying that Mormon mothers want their children to grow up to behave like splinter-group polygamist Warren Jeffs. Or he could draw a cartoon implying that Jewish mothers want their children’s role models to be like mass murderer Baruch Goldstein or assassin Yigal Amir. My guess is that such implications would not be tolerated by The Augusta Chronicle’s readership.

Theologian Reinhold Niebuhr said, “The tendency to claim God as an ally for our partisan values and ends is the source of all religious fanaticism.” Perhaps your cartoonist could find a way to provide amusing commentary without encouraging stereotyping and intolerance of the religious faiths of others.

Linda B. Hardy, M.D.

Augusta

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allhans
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allhans 05/18/12 - 02:21 am
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Hey! It's a cartoon! Where

Hey! It's a cartoon! Where is your sense of humor. We are all laughed at at some point. Smile.

ultrarnr
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ultrarnr 05/18/12 - 03:23 am
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Bigotry is never funny
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Bigotry is never funny

Just My Opinion
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Just My Opinion 05/18/12 - 03:57 am
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To some extent, we all are

To some extent, we all are guilty of pushing stereotypes, whether it be on ourselves or others. The simple act of placing a "M.D." behind your post's name might indicate to others that you are taking this oppurtunity to somehow elevate the validity and content of your remarks. In your practice, you can not tell me that you have not been guilty of stereotyping someone when you see a new patient in your waiting room that may be dressed slovenly and/or behaving "ghetto" or "hick" and assuming they have no health insurance to cover your costs. My point is that we all tend to stereotype others, at some time. That's because it is human nature. Even in the animal kingdom, it has been proven that smaller apes in a group will "stereotype" aggessive and dominant behavior being in much larger apes in the same group. The study also showed the same result in lions and even giraffes!
Bottom line..it was underwear, it was about the Muslims who have the most current media spotlight on them, and it was about a sad situation which was turned around with alittle humor. It's okay to lighten up and smile. I'm sure that, somewhere out there, there was a Muslim who didn't take himself seriously and thought the cartoon was somewhat clever and funny.

avidreader
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avidreader 05/18/12 - 05:14 am
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Pillow Case and a Fan Belt

I remember shortly after September 11, 2001, a politician from Louisiana was quoted in a national publication. To paraphrase -- From now on, when we see a guy in an airport wearing a pillow case over his head, held in place by a fan belt, we'll be very cautious.

I'm sorry, Dr. Hardy, but I thought this remark was funny. However, I realize that all muslims are not extremists. But to this day, I remain -- very cautious.

Retired Army
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Retired Army 05/18/12 - 06:11 am
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My remarks about that

My remarks about that cartoon, stating much the same opinion of it, in somewhat more concise and sharper terms was removed as offensive. But what would I know.

Thanks Doc. I see one of the posters here has an objection to your education. That's a reeeeeeeeeel gooooder arguement, ain't it.

Bruno
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Bruno 05/18/12 - 07:09 am
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Given that there are some

Given that there are some women of the Muslim faith that believe that their children being martyrs is desirable, and the recent foiling of yet another underwear bomb plot, the cartoon is dead on. One person drawn in a burkha does not equate a statement about ALL Muslim women. It also isn't bigotry.

Little Lamb
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Little Lamb 05/18/12 - 07:26 am
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Intolerance?

Linda Hardy's own words trip her up:

All religions contain groups and individuals who become extremist and who do not represent the vast majority of individuals in that religious group.

That’s who the cartoon was depicting – the ones who become extremist. The cartoonist was not lampooning the vast majority. It is Hardy who comes across as intolerant.

howcanweknow
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howcanweknow 05/18/12 - 07:27 am
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Intolerant of Facts

I agree that there are wackos in every faith. But, religion has no monopoly on extremists. Far more innocent people have been murdered by atheists like Stalin and Mao than all the "religious folks" combined. Real issue is that human beings have evil tendencies. We're born with them. As we grow up we either indulge these tendencies or learn to overcome them (for the most part).

What the good doctor avoids is the issue that most folks gloss over. You cannot judge a faith system as a whole by what a few wackos do. Since Dr. Hardy is aware of statistical analysis, she knows a few extremists are not a valid random sample of a population. The only way to normalize the data and compare apples to apples is to examine the primary source documents of the faith. Compare what their teachings are, and then you'll have the true story.

No, not all Muslims are terrorists. Far from it. However, no one (including Dr. Hardy) can deny that the Quran supports violent retribution toward infidels. That's what's written, and is what the angel Gabriel supposedly told Muhammad. There are also passages giving a husband permission to beat his wife, if she gets out of line (whatever that means). It is also taught that lying to infidels is perfectly fine as well. If you want to really be intolerant, consider the attitude Islam has toward homosexuals.

When a Muslim terrorist kills innocent folks, they do so claiming support from their holy book and do so in the name of Allah. While any sane person condemns this action, you cannot deny there is scriptural support for their acts from the Quran.

Contrast this with the teachings of Christ where His followers are to love their enemies, bless your persecutors, and do unto others as you would have done to you. Sure, Timothy McVeigh was a crazy terrorist, but he was not a Christian -- Dr. Hardy's logic escapes me on that one. She should know better than to try to use him as an example of a "Christian".

I do not condemn all Muslims for the actions of a few. But, you cannot deny that the writings upon which their faith is based contains passages that could indeed promote violence to non-Muslims. There is "scriptural" support for their acts of terror.

Jesus Christ and Allah certainly disagree on some very important points. The New Testament and the Quran, at times, certainly preach a very different message. That's the evidence upon which you have to make your comparisons. You can't just pull out a few names as examples and judge an entire faith upon the actions of a few.

By doing this very thing in the name of "tolerance", Dr. Hardy is guilty of doing exactly what she condemns. So, the LTE, though well-intentioned, is not very well considered or thought out. An educated person should know better.

howcanweknow
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howcanweknow 05/18/12 - 07:34 am
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huh?

Last Saturday, RA expressed opinions strongly against being educated. There was a statement made that some folks were even educated beyond their usefulness. Now, here we see comments in support of education and poking fun at being uneducated:

"Thanks Doc. I see one of the posters here has an objection to your education. That's a reeeeeeeeeel gooooder arguement, ain't it."

Well, which is it? Are we in favor of education or not? Can't have it one way Saturday and the other way the next Friday.

Little Lamb
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Little Lamb 05/18/12 - 08:34 am
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Situational Ethics

Yes you can, HCWK. It's called situational ethics. No one has to be consistent.

howcanweknow
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howcanweknow 05/18/12 - 09:42 am
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OK, LL, I guess you're

OK, LL, I guess you're correct -- at least for today and at this time. However, I reserve the right to change my mind and disagree with you at 8:47 PM tonight, depending on my situation.

;)

Little Lamb
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Little Lamb 05/18/12 - 09:46 am
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Back at you

;-)

(My nose is bigger than yours is)

howcanweknow
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howcanweknow 05/18/12 - 09:50 am
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Well, I try not to be "nosy".

Well, I try not to be "nosy".

Jake
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Jake 05/18/12 - 10:15 am
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A matter of taste

Sometimes McKee shows poor taste in his caricatures and subject matter. The fact that the cartoon in question was produced on Mother's Day just reinforces my opinion on this.

burninater
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burninater 05/18/12 - 10:43 am
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That was the ACES Mother's

That was the ACES Mother's Day cartoon!? Good golly, people need to drop their obsessions once in a while and enjoy their blessings, don't you think?

eagle
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eagle 05/18/12 - 12:08 pm
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I thought it was funny. It
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I thought it was funny. It was a cartoon. Move on.

Conservative Man
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Conservative Man 05/18/12 - 04:36 pm
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To use a well worn

To use a well worn phrase...."not all Muslims are terrorists, but it does seem all terrorists are Muslims"....just sayin'...

Retired Army
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Retired Army 05/18/12 - 05:58 pm
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Howcanweknow, how gooder does

Howcanweknow, how gooder does it get? The quote was "there are those who are educated beyond their usefulness". I would think that pretty well covers the education issue. Some of us have just enough, some not enough and some too much. Take yer pick.

The comment about the good Dr's education level was petty at best.

Retired Army
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Retired Army 05/18/12 - 04:53 pm
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Gee Conservative man. I

Gee Conservative man. I wasn't aware that Timothy Mcveigh, Eric Rudolf and Anders Bre???(Sweden-murdered 70 unarmed children) were Muslim. Thanks for the tip.

Retired Army
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Retired Army 05/18/12 - 05:48 pm
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KSL
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KSL 05/18/12 - 07:18 pm
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How long ago, Ms Hardy, did

How long ago, Ms Hardy, did the terrorist acts of those you mentioned in your letter take place? How long ago was this recent terrorist planned attack. What make cartoons interesting or humorous is the timeliness of the cartoon. Lighten up.

Pu239
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Pu239 05/18/12 - 08:18 pm
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Typically those who use their
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Typically those who use their "supposed" education as a stick...should have said stick placed where electromagnetic radiation that has a wavelength in the range from about 4,000 (violet) to about 7,700 (red) angstroms doesn't shine.

Jake
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Jake 05/18/12 - 10:36 pm
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Lighten up

Yes folks, lighten up. Let's show Emmet Till bloated in death as a caricature with a smile on his face.

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fedex227 05/18/12 - 10:39 pm
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RA – c’mon get with it. If
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RA – c’mon get with it. If you haven’t learned by now how to dehuminize an entire group of people to the point that this type of satire has you rolling with laughter, you’re just so out of it. It’s so easy to hate- give in.

Bruno
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Bruno 05/19/12 - 08:52 am
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haha. I knew it was going to

haha. I knew it was going to be a quick jump to someone pointing out McVeigh. It is silly to compare the multitude of recent terrorist attacks world wide to one by McVeigh. I did get a chuckle out of the knee jerk reaction though.

KSL
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KSL 05/19/12 - 05:03 pm
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Gee, Jake, when and where was

Gee, Jake, when and where was that cartoon published? I missed it.

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