Here's the war on women

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In reference to Lee Benedict’s April 15 letter (“The left again goes too far”), and the current flap over Hilary Rosen’s comments about Ann Romney’s never having worked a day in her life:

Yes, I am sure Ann Romney works in raising a family, but I’m equally sure what Hilary meant to say, and misspoke, was that Ann Romney had never worked for a living (emphasis mine) a day in her life. I suspect that is actually true.

The two political parties are ranting about two different kinds of “war on women.” The Republicans are saying President Obama is making economic war on women and imply that it is deliberate, although they don’t say how. That is utter nonsense. The first bill signed into law by Obama was to provide women with equal pay for equal work. That’s hardly an attack on women. No other presidential decision I can think of has had a degradation of the wages or other economic rights of women in the workplace.

The real war on women is mostly in the Republican-dominated state legislatures and governorships. Several states have pushed “life begins at inception” laws and/or constitutional amendments (which Romney says he supports), and ultrasound scan requirements, some of them using vaginal probes, before a woman can choose to have an abortion. Both those types of laws are intended to proscribe a woman’s right to have an abortion – which was a right the Supreme Court affirmed in the Roe v. Wade case – and, presumably, outlaw any contraceptive device that prevents a fertilized egg from attaching to the uterus. If these acts don’t constitute assaults on women’s rights, I don’t know what does.

I fail to understand how the relationship between doctors and their patients is any of the government’s business.

The rest of Mr. Benedict’s letter is just right-wing propaganda and isn’t worth commenting about.

Paul Barritt

McCormick, S.C.

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TParty 04/21/12 - 11:23 pm
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And this is what I don't

And this is what I don't understand. The republicans said everything will be about the economy, fixing the economy. and getting American's back to work.

So what happened since 2010? Just going after women all the time!! I wrote this before, but it's worth saying again:

But the reality is that one party has pushed for restricting contraception- cutting off Planned Parenthood; state-mandated, medically-unnecessary trans-vaginal ultrasounds; forcing physicians to lie to patients about abortion and breast cancer; abortion taxes; abortion waiting periods; trap laws at abortion clinics, forcing women to tell their employers why they want birth control, opposition to prenatal care, and measures that make it harder for women to fight pay discrimination.

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Truth Matters 04/22/12 - 12:49 am
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I, too, find it interesting

I, too, find it interesting that the party that is against government intrusion has no problem with the government telling women to have a medical procedure. We don't need the government making us buy insurance, but we need the government making women have a medical procedure that the women, according to doctors, don’t need and they must pay for themselves.

You either want government out of your affairs or you don't. In this case they want government to intrude when they want it to do so.

Makes no sense.

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ForeverFrog 04/22/12 - 02:11 am
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Keep religion out of

Keep religion out of politics!

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specsta 04/22/12 - 02:18 am
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"The real war on women is

"The real war on women is mostly in the Republican-dominated state legislatures and governorships."

Excellent letter, Mr. Barritt!

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Riverman1 04/22/12 - 04:58 am
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TP said, "But the reality is

TP said, "But the reality is that one party has pushed for restricting contraception- cutting off Planned Parenthood; state-mandated, medically-unnecessary trans-vaginal ultrasounds, forcing physicians to lie to patients about abortion and breast cancer; "

I'm curious how the Republicans have pushed for forcing physicians to lie to patients about abortion and breast cancer?

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Techfan 04/22/12 - 06:17 am
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There is no link between

There is no link between abortion and breast cancer. New Hampshire HB 1659 requires doctors to tell their patients that there is a link.

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carcraft 04/22/12 - 07:17 am
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Well despite Obama signing a

Well despite Obama signing a law to make pay equal, it seems as in most things Obama has tried, he failed! http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2128513/Women-paid-significantly... Then with the post racial President there I this problem! http://terry-9.newsvine.com/_news/2012/04/09/11101855-minority-report-st... LOL!

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carcraft 04/22/12 - 07:14 am
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I wonder if Obama has ever

I wonder if Obama has ever really worked a day in his life? He seems to have held only one or two private sector jobs, for very short periods of time, but does seem to think he understands every thing about the private sector, you know sorta like the constitution and Obama care..UMMM UMMM UMMM

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carcraft 04/22/12 - 07:27 am
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Iwonder when Mr. Barritt

Iwonder when Mr. Barritt thinks life begans? If there wasn't a conception, in his case , he wouldn't be here would he?

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Fundamental_Arminian 04/22/12 - 07:35 am
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The ultrasound requirement

The ultrasound requirement for women contemplating abortions is a good way to avoid a medical conflict of interest. Abortionists, like salesmen, stand to make the most money when they persuade women to have abortions. The ultrasound requirement forces abortionists to give a fair sales presentation by letting the women see the unborn they're about to murder. The requirement is no more a war on women than truth-in-advertising laws are a war on consumers.

The flak over Ann Romney's work history is simply a distraction from the main issue: our president's job performance. The president has not kept his promises on bringing home our troops, reducing our government's deficits, conducting business openly, and making our economy conducive to the creation of jobs. If Americans stay focused on his shortcomings and on the fact that most of us are worse off than we were four years ago, Obama will be soundly defeated this November.

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Techfan 04/22/12 - 07:42 am
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It's equal pay fpr equal

It's equal pay fpr equal work, but you know that. You can't just take an average of men and women to tell a disparity. Female doctores earn more than I do, but the male and female nurses and on the same pay scale. BTW: If you notice, in the Senate, all of the nays have an (R) by their name. http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm...
In the House, Democrats voted 247-5 for, Republicans 173-3 against.
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2009/roll037.xml
Also, the Republican Supreme Court ruled against her, saying she didn't file within 180 days, even though she didn't find out about it until later. Motto: Keep quiet about cheating your employees for at least 180 days.

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Techfan 04/22/12 - 07:48 am
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When does life begin? In

When does life begin? In Jewish law, at birth.

Fundamental_Arminian
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Fundamental_Arminian 04/22/12 - 08:01 am
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Also, the Republican Supreme

    Also, the Republican Supreme Court ruled against her, saying she didn't file within 180 days, even though she didn't find out about it until later. Motto: Keep quiet about cheating your employees for at least 180 days (Techfan).

Techfan, I agree that the Supreme Court's decision on the Lilly Ledbetter case made it almost impossible for employees to timely complain about wage discrimination. Before that decision, wage discrimination was considered an ongoing harm perpetrated every payday.

I'm ashamed that most Republican legislators voted against changing the law on wage discrimination. Fortunately, there's no indication that Republicans want to undo the change.

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Fundamental_Arminian 04/22/12 - 08:00 am
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When does life begin? In

    When does life begin? In Jewish law, at birth (Techfan).

Wouldn't it be best to go by medical science? Don't ultrasound images refute Jewish law on the beginning of life?

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soldout 04/22/12 - 08:10 am
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In war you usually kill

In war you usually kill people and break things. Only one party wants to kill unborn women and call it a good thing. When a mind reaches a point where killing unborn babies is okay you don't want that same mind in any position of power because that is true mental illness. When you vote for those kind of people you are saying you are in agreement and you share the sowing and reaping of that action. If your life has been a struggle vote for those who promote life instead of death and change your reaping into a blessing instead of a curse. The Bible says we get to choose whether we have blessings or curses in our life and the voting booth is another place to do this.

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Techfan 04/22/12 - 08:16 am
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Does an ultrasound pick up a

Does an ultrasound pick up a zygote?

Techfan
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Techfan 04/22/12 - 08:18 am
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We're fighting a war in

We're fighting a war in Afghanistan because a group of religious zealots want to rule the country. Why would we want that here?

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Lee Benedict 04/22/12 - 08:23 am
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Mr. Barritt, you know as well

Mr. Barritt, you know as well as I (you may not admit to it in a public forum) that if one cell, or if something that could one day be deemed a cell, were found at the edge of the Milky Way, "scientists" and politicians everywhere would announce the breakthrough and run with something to the effect of, "Life found at the edge of galaxy". Well, why when it comes to a woman conceiving a child do leftists cry, whine, and whimper that it is NOT living?

Your Roe v. Wade reference was without mention that it was based on a LIE and decided upon not based on common sense and fact.

Speaking of common sense and fact, the April 15th letter you reference as "just right-wing propaganda and isn’t worth commenting about" is so typical of elitist liberals who have no defense of plain common sense and fact. So what you do is, shift the entire focus elsewhere with the hope that it will dominate the conversation and the initial statement will be forgotten. BTW, are you certain that Ann Romney did not ever work for a living? I know that you are in Obama spin control, but are you certain about Ann?

Ann Romney lived in a run-down apartment in 1968 while Mitt Romney was in college. She went to college in the evening so that she could better raise he children versus having a television and/or daycare facility raise her kids. And there's more, but, your letter illustrates vintage liberal logic.

In case anyone needs a refresher, here is the letter:
http://chronicle.augusta.com/opinion/letters/2012-04-14/left-again-goes-...
You decide if it is "just right-wing propaganda and isn’t worth commenting about" while remembering that Hilary Rosen initiated the discussion and that Bill Maher and other crazed Marxists chimed in on the matter. Do tell us, what is not factual that was presented as fact?

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Abbynoll 04/22/12 - 08:23 am
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I find it ironic that the

I find it ironic that the same people that complain about a waiting period for an abortion and showing someone exactly what they're murdering are the same people that want serious gun control? They sure are all for waiting periods to purchase a weapon that may never be used and mandatory classes for anyone that wants to be licensed for said weapon. I would think the LIFE of a child is at least as important and deserving of much more consideration.

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Lee Benedict 04/22/12 - 08:30 am
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If you want to discuss

If you want to discuss propaganda, that would be more akin to what we see from Lowell Greenbaum every 30-45 days.

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Bizkit 04/22/12 - 09:27 am
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The female gamete isn't an

The female gamete isn't an egg till fertilization (it's a secondary oocyte frozen in metaphase of meisis II and completes upon fertilzation) then it becomes a zygote, preembryo, embryo and finally fetus. Life is a continuum and at 8 weeks all the major organs are formed in the fetus-after that it mostly grows (most of the complex developmental process are done). Then after birth, the lungs, the brain, the digestive tract, the kidneys, the liver, the eyes, the newborn immune system continue to develop. By some peoples defintion a newborn wouldn't be a person either.The original Hypocratic Oath forbade abortion. There is no war on women-that's for the kool-aid crowd like the birthers, Obama's a marxist, etc. I don't understand the war on abortion-gluttony and obesity are a sin (and studies demonstrate christians are more obese)and I don't see citizens protest churches filled with fat people whose bad health habits will drive the cost of health care.How about adultery=plenty of that in church too as divorce rate is same as secular. Reminds me of Dante's inferno. Hey wait a minute isn't there some rule about "judge not yet ye be judged". So in protesting abortion they are sinning-Catch-22. Christ never spoke about abortion and even dealt with slavery by telling people to be the best slave. Remember Christianity isn't about you and when you become indignant with others sin then it is. Its God job to convict people of their sin and forgive if asked. Christians should be good witnesses lamenting of their own sin and empathetic of others (rather than judgment)and telling people how Christ has impacted their lives. David was an adulterer and murderer-no doubt if he was a women he would have likely had an abortion too, but he was the apple of God's eye. Pull that two by four outta your own eye before you comment on the toothpick in your brothers.

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Bizkit 04/22/12 - 09:22 am
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I love humor and political

I love humor and political cartoons. Steve Colbert is brilliant and hilarious with political satire. Bill Maher is bumbling and stumbling and really not very funny-he comes off as desperate, petty, and he has mind-blindness (because he can't comprehend beliefs other than his own-basically a developmental defect common with autism).

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Truth Matters 04/22/12 - 09:28 am
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Bottom line, conservatives

Bottom line, conservatives and Republicans are setting a new standard for elections. The majority votes a candidate into office and laws are passed through working together so that the wishes of the whole electorate are met. In the Republican world, it has become “when my party gets into office we will overturn every law that we don't like, and the heck with the majority that won the election.

Roe v. Wade is the law. The law prohibits the use of federal $$ to fund abortions. As adoptive parents, we would never consider getting an abortion. I suggest that if you don't want an abortion, don't get one, teach your children and others in your center of influence not to get one, and follow the teachings of your church not to support abortions (I assume that's your church's doctrine). But do not tell a husband and wife that if that wife's life is in danger they should not choose to terminate a pregnancy to save her life.

Interestingly, a story in this week's paper related to the cutback in funds to help families care for fragilely ill children while parents work. It's as important to help those families once those children are born as it is to fight to end the abortion that might have cut off a precious life.

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Bizkit 04/22/12 - 09:44 am
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But the Truth is also that

But the Truth is also that the Dems have tried the same with Rep laws passed when they had the majority (if the economy weren't so bad they would have long let the Bush Tax cuts extinquish. I don't care about parties anymore-its about people I trust. I really trust Bill Clinton and I personally think he is brilliant (sorry Bill your wife is a moron and wannabe). I don't trust Obama (he promised change and we got the same-I wish he were true to his word)and he isn't very bright (sorry but I don't see it). The mantra about Rep attacking women is as lame as Obama is a communist destroying the constitution (he is using class warfare with is a marxist tactic but that doesn't make him a marxist-it is just political theatre). Now there are acts that could be interpreted as such but they are weak arguments when you consider other acts that don't (its context).

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TParty 04/22/12 - 10:07 am
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This quickly became an

This quickly became an abortion debate, which makes sense if you support everything the GOP does and toe the line, and need to change the subject, provide distractions.

While abortion is being debated and minds won't be change, just remember that on the right, the GOP is trying to get government involved between a female patient and their doctor. It's trying to force doctors to shove medical devices into women, even when both parties do not agree- the GOP is trying to say "Too bad, we know better!". Just remember that.

And while the GOP tries ban abortion even though it's a women's right in this country, and tries to hinder same pay for women, and other things that has already been settled (like birth control)- none of it has to do with the economy, energy independence, investments in this country... anything!! They are going backwards, so remember that.

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Bizkit 04/22/12 - 10:11 am
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What about Obama's support

What about Obama's support and abuse of the Patriot Act as he spies on Americans and likely poltiical opponents (basically like Nixon). The Dems also say Too bad we know better. No difference just different agendas.

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Bizkit 04/22/12 - 10:15 am
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Ooops

Ooops

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Bizkit 04/22/12 - 10:25 am
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With free birth control at

With free birth control at planned parenthood and local health departments, why is the abortion rate so high????? Free birth control has not prevented abortions. Likely if we all had free health care the demographics and desparaties would still exist.Even the president has been paying his female employees less than males, and likely would still be doing so if not exposed. Obama is no different than any other politician-he mislead millions of Americans to win the election because of this misleading fact. Hey I bought into it too. Just another politician abusing power as usual.

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TParty 04/22/12 - 10:27 am
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Bizkit: Your comment about

Bizkit: Your comment about Obama and abuse of power is right- although there is no evidence he spies on political opponents like the Republican Nixon. This is an issue that should be in forefront for the right, but when anyone speaks out against the Patriot Act (From the Bush admin) both parties unite to silence and mock that person (See: Ron Paul).

Obama killed an American citizen, without a trial, without a jury. He signed the NDAA which gives the president power to detain Americans without a trial, just because the President says it's okay and for the best of everyone else. And republicans just gave it to him!!! The right will make noise about Obama trying to save lives and fix the health care in this country, but won't make a peep about his power to detain Americans?!?

The reason for this is because the powerful are really the same regardless if there is an R or D next to their name- they just want to line their own pockets and gather as much power as possible.

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Bizkit 04/22/12 - 10:28 am
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Watch as both parties play on

Watch as both parties play on interest groups of ethnicity, gender, age, etc. This should be an incredibly vile political season. We need to tax our politicians whenever they knowingly lie and mislead. We would pay off the debt in five years a minimum.

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