Obama glosses over Bible

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I have a few comments about President Obama’s beliefs as expressed at the recent National Prayer Breakfast.

As reported in The Augusta Chronicle, Obama used Luke 12:48 to remind us that “to whom much is given, much shall be required.” He used it to justify his desire to raise taxes on those who earn above a certain amount each year.

The parable he used actually is about how a servant should know what his master desires, and he should be willing to accomplish the will of the master. The servant is not under compulsion to serve, but serves out of his own initiative, not because his master tells him to. If our president is going to quote Scripture, he should make sure he doesn’t just use those Scriptures that back up his political objectives.

On the other side of the coin, there is a verse in 2 Thessalonians in which the Apostle Paul tells how he worked hard during his visit so that he would not be a burden on others. He then tells the believers that all should follow his example: “If a man will not work, he shall not eat.” I don’t think the president will be quoting this one anytime soon.

The president is doing what many preachers and others do all the time – he is “prooftexting.” He is picking only the verses that help him politically.

Vernon Ball

North Augusta, S.C.

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Haki
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Haki 02/11/12 - 02:49 am
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You're funny Mr. Ball.

You're funny Mr. Ball.

copperhead
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copperhead 02/11/12 - 04:55 am
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Haki,why are you so enamoured

Haki,why are you so enamoured with hussein?

Jon Lester
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Jon Lester 02/11/12 - 05:30 am
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So what's your plan, to vote

So what's your plan, to vote for someone who glosses over the Ten Commandments with their lying and philandering?

Techfan
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Techfan 02/11/12 - 07:11 am
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copper: Why are you so

copper: Why are you so enamoured with the President's middle name? Did you call Nixon "Milhous"? Ford "Rudolph"? Reagan "Wilson"? Bush 1 "Herbert Walker"? Clinton "Jefferson"? Bush 2 ""Walker"?

Riverman1
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Riverman1 02/11/12 - 07:30 am
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Want the truth about Obama's

Want the truth about Obama's middle name? Hussein is a Muslim name is why many use it. He spent his early, formative years being trained as a Muslim. He lived in Indonesia during that time. His father and stepfather were Muslim. Using Milhous wouldn't indicate anything negative, while using a Muslim name does. It's negative to have a Muslim name in America these days. Deal with it.

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Fundamental_Arminian 02/11/12 - 07:49 am
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>>As reported in The Augusta

>>As reported in The Augusta Chronicle, Obama used Luke 12:48 to remind us that “to whom much is given, much shall be required.” He used it to justify his desire to raise taxes on those who earn above a certain amount each year (Vernon Ball)<<.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but earnings aren't gifts, are they? The people to whom much has been given are the welfare recipients, not the people who earned their income. According to our president's reasoning, shouldn't welfare recipients be in the higher tax bracket?

copperhead
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copperhead 02/11/12 - 07:53 am
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Tec,i called them by MANY

Tec,i called them by MANY names. hussein is the only name i can use for this pres. that can be posted. i call him by MANY names also.

copperhead
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copperhead 02/11/12 - 08:10 am
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Tec,what are some of the

Tec,what are some of the names that you called conservativesa/republicans? would you care to share some of them with us?

copperhead
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copperhead 02/11/12 - 08:34 am
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Tec,with all your

Tec,with all your resources,please research what a muslim father teaches his son. Is it true that one thing that is taught is that someday he may be called upon for an "honor killing"? You supply so many links,could you find one with "muslim teachings/father to son"? This is just one thing that i want to know about hussein(which he has hidden)

southernguy08
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southernguy08 02/11/12 - 08:40 am
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I'm surprised whammy Obammy
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I'm surprised whammy Obammy would quote the bible at all. Didn't he make a speech about bitter people clinging to their guns and bibles once? Just think, he actually believes that he deserves ANOTHER term in office. Yeah, I'm laughing.

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Bruno 02/11/12 - 08:58 am
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I don't trust anyone who

I don't trust anyone who cherry picks verses from the Bible to justify their actions. I trust them even less when they don't even use the entire passage.
I also find it interesting that people are giving Obama a pass on using religion to promote a political idea. Seems that separation thing is only good if it is used by a politician you support.

copperhead
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copperhead 02/11/12 - 09:03 am
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Tec,where oh where have you

Tec,where oh where have you gone? I answered your question and yet you ignore mine. Not very sporting of you.

Techfan
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Techfan 02/11/12 - 09:19 am
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Sorry, having

Sorry, having login/connection issues. So, you're saying that since Prescott Bush was a Nazi, that automatically makes GHW and W ones as well? BTW: Obama's parents were separated when he was one year old and divorced when he was 3. Later, have to sleep for 3-11 shift.

jic
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jic 02/11/12 - 09:23 am
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Poor Bruno. You must not
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Poor Bruno. You must not trust anyone since everyone cherry picks to persecute their favorite scapegoat. But I agree, he should not get a pass on it, any more than the theocrat, Santorum or the Mormon or the adulterer.

copperhead
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copperhead 02/11/12 - 09:26 am
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I am sure that IF hussein was

I am sure that IF hussein was taught to be muslim during the first 15 years of his life,the 20 years he spent in rev.wright's church(not hearing a word rev.wright said)converted him to christianity even though he would lose his soul and would be killed by true muslins for abandoning allah.

howcanweknow
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howcanweknow 02/11/12 - 09:28 am
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Whether or not the President

Whether or not the President is a Christian is between him and God. That being said, true Christianity will be evidenced by a person's words and actions. Based upon this administration's actions and policies, I would have a difficult time defending many of these acts as Christian.

I agree with the above comments about cherry-picking Bible verses out of context. You can pull out isolated verses and bend them to support any agenda you like. It's dishonest, but easily done. Politicians and their speech-writers are certainly good at doing this.

copperhead
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copperhead 02/11/12 - 09:33 am
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Tec,are you comparing nazism

Tec,are you comparing nazism to islam? A political view to a religion?

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Conservative Man 02/11/12 - 10:27 am
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If we're all gonna follow the

If we're all gonna follow the Bible, how about everyone "tithe" 10% to the government (including those on welfare)and be done with it....
..Oh..we can't do that....that means the EVIIL rich won't be paying "their fair share" and the poor poor pitiful poor won't get their daily allotment of twinkies and lottery tickets....

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Jane18 02/11/12 - 10:28 am
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When these guys are

When these guys are "cherry-picking" their Bible verses, they should first know the words' meanings. The word 'required' in Greek means ' to seek and to worship GOD. You know, to know HE IS(I AM THAT I AM) and be thankful. Too bad The Great Reverend Jeremiah Wright did not teach the meaning of some words to certain of the parishoners. Also, too bad he didn't know that when he cursed America, he put another bad mark by his name in The Book of Life.

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twolane 02/11/12 - 10:34 am
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muslims dont read the bible
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muslims dont read the bible its the koran...and seriously if he spent 20 years in a church and never heard anything his anti american preacher SCREAMED...do you really believe he read the bible

twolane
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twolane 02/11/12 - 10:37 am
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and yeah if islam teaches you
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and yeah if islam teaches you that either all conform to your religion or they die thats pretty close to nazism

Bruno
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Bruno 02/11/12 - 10:44 am
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More misinformation from

More misinformation from Techfan. From the UK Guardian: "George Bush's grandfather, the late US senator Prescott Bush, was a director and shareholder of companies that profited from their involvement with the financial backers of Nazi Germany."
also:
"... there is no suggestion that Prescott Bush was sympathetic to the Nazi cause, the documents reveal that the firm he worked for, Brown Brothers Harriman (BBH), acted as a US base for the German industrialist, Fritz Thyssen, who helped finance Hitler in the 1930s before falling out with him at the end of the decade." Besides, this isn't about anyone but Obama.

iLove
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iLove 02/11/12 - 10:55 am
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The scripture was not used in
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The scripture was not used in the correct manner.

You can tell a man by his works....by his FRUIT!

But how MANY OTHER PEOPLE pick and choose the scriptures. How can you disrespect Gods word like that?

People don't take God serious.

iLove
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iLove 02/11/12 - 11:01 am
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And Bush and Obama are
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And Bush and Obama are distant cousins . . . . .ALL FROM THE SAME FAMILY LINE.....AS MOST PRESIDENTS....

I agree Willow.

allhans
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allhans 02/11/12 - 11:08 am
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What is there left to say for

What is there left to say for a man who "quotes" from the Bible but supports abortion?

specsta
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specsta 02/11/12 - 01:18 pm
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What is with this

What is with this "pick-and-choose" terminology? As if President Obama is the only person in the world that selects a line of Scripture and quotes from it - everyone does that! Otherwise, we would all be subjected to listening to someone recite whole chapters in the Bible, verbatim, in order to get the "full picture".

Does one really need clarification on a Scripture like "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life"?

Also, it is not the President's job to quote anything religious at all. It has nothing to do with his job nor should it dictate policy. We are a democratic republic, not a theocracy. Be glad that we do have a President that will refer to Scriptures - but he certainly doesn't have to and it should not affect how he is seen by the electorate.

This constant fault-finding with our President has to stop. We are blessed to have an upright young family man in the White House, one who understands how technology is determining the future progress of this country.

I can't even imagine how some old geezer like Newt or Ron Paul could even begin to understand how technology is the key to our future.

howcanweknow
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howcanweknow 02/11/12 - 01:50 pm
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Specsta, I don't think anyone

Specsta, I don't think anyone is ganging up on the President out of hand. He has made the public claim that his policies come from his devotion to Christianity. His words, not ours. If you make that claim, you open yourself up to analysis and even criticism.

As Allhans pointed out, there's just simply no way a true Christian could ever support -- much less try to make laws supporting -- the termination of innocent human life. If the president supports abortion as he claims to do, then no, his actions do NOT reflect true Christianity. That's just simple logic.

He supports abortion, but I've yet to see him try to select scriptures to support that position. He knows there are none. Yet, he openly supports it and tries to even ram it down the throats of Catholics and other Christian groups opposed to it.

Pointing out such hypocrisy is not "fault-finding". It's just stating facts that are obvious for everyone to see. The president left himself open to such evaluation by claiming to follow Christian principles. If he never claimed to follow Christian principles, then there'd be no such criticism.

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burninater 02/11/12 - 01:56 pm
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I'm trying to get the point

I'm trying to get the point of his letter. Obama is cherry-picking Biblical verse for political ends? You mean he's joined the Evangelical Tea Party base?

bjphysics
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bjphysics 02/11/12 - 02:04 pm
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Following the Bible would be

Following the Bible would be difficult for Obama distractors; the “thou shalt not bear false witness” part could seriously impede their activities.

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