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Regarding the Jan. 13 editorial “Our nation can be saved,” how can any God-fearing person who believes in America, the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution penned by our Founding Fathers believe our nation can be saved by re-electing a president who has:

• downgraded America’s AAA credit rating to AA-plus, placing America’s credit rating equal to Belgium and New Zealand;

• devastated the economy;

• driven unemployment off the charts;

• Responsibility for “bail out” disasters;

• attempted to destroy the successful, self-sustaining, optimistic, risk-taking, reward-based culture that has sustained America;

• publicly stated that America is not a Christian nation;

• called President Bush irresponsible and unpatriotic for increasing the national debt by almost $4 trillion during his eight-year administration. President Obama, in only four years, has almost doubled the nation’s debt from $8.5 trillion to more than $15 trillion. Who is irresponsible and unpatriotic?

Obama believes in entitlement; spreading the wealth, whether earned or not; tolerance to everything; and relativism.

He doesn’t believe America was founded on biblical principles!

He doesn’t believe America should be a God-fearing nation!

Perhaps therein lies the problem.

Good grief, Americans! Be silent no more! Reject complacency! Embrace boldness, patriotism and godliness! Onward Christian soldiers, marching as to war! We are all God’s children and the sheep of His pasture. God has shed His grace upon thee!

God has blessed each of us with a freedom of choice, a mind, a brain and a heart. May we use our God-given gifts, and our American privilege of voting, with wisdom and discernment in November. Don’t use it for our own selfish, prideful agenda; for President Obama’s agenda; or for the agenda of whoever is the Republican nominee. May we cast our ballots in God’s honor, His glory and His praise!

William “Bill” Thweatt

North Augusta, S.C.

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willie7
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willie7 01/26/12 - 12:37 am
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I see why Newt won the
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I see why Newt won the Republican primary in the great state of South Carolina, after reading this letter.

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faithson 01/26/12 - 01:25 am
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Yea, Bill is on to something

Yea, Bill is on to something here. ' May we use our God-given gifts, and our American privilege of voting, with wisdom and discernment in November'. Now who can really not agree with Bill's statement here ? Seems like good advise.

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Fundamental_Arminian 01/26/12 - 03:27 am
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This is a good letter

This is a good letter overall. I like all Mr. Thweatt's points except his complaint that Obama called President Bush irresponsible and unpatriotic for raising the national debt. Obama was right, but he later raised the debt far more, thus proving himself even more irresponsible and unpatriotic.

May God grant us the wisdom to recognize that we have only one conservative candidate, Ron Paul. If a conservative is someone who believes in a limited, non-intrusive government, Dr. Paul is the only candidate who fits the definition of a conservative. Only he will work to trim our government, reduce its operating expenses, and restore a sound currency.

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broad street narrow mind 01/26/12 - 04:57 am
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did jesus write this?
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did jesus write this?

seenitB4
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seenitB4 01/26/12 - 05:25 am
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Sometimes I can't believe the

Sometimes I can't believe the message on here.....

If only we could pull a great guy out of nowhere to become President---if only---wishing won't make it happen though...

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Techfan 01/26/12 - 05:49 am
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If only the US was a

If only the US was a theocracy....

seenitB4
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seenitB4 01/26/12 - 05:51 am
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That won't make me happy

That won't make me happy either tech.

agustinian
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agustinian 01/26/12 - 08:40 am
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Hey, Bill, I talked to God

Hey, Bill, I talked to God today; She said to chill out. Barack is one of Hers, and She thought you needed to pray a little harder, because so far, all She is hearing is Hosanna for Obama!

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bjphysics 01/26/12 - 09:22 am
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I would rate 7 assertions in

I would rate 7 assertions in this letter as Not True, 1 as Not Sure, and 2 as Unknowable; since the letter writer is absolutely certain all 10 claims are true, the words of Bertrand Russell come to mind:

“The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts.”

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howcanweknow 01/26/12 - 09:13 am
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"Obama called President Bush

"Obama called President Bush irresponsible and unpatriotic for raising the national debt. Obama was right, but he later raised the debt far more, thus proving himself even more irresponsible and unpatriotic."

Words are serious things. Be careful what you say, because 4 years later your words can come back to bite you.

The "Blame it all on Bush" tactic can no longer be used. The list of potential "it's all their fault" alternatives has become very small indeed 4 years later.

In terms of a Theocracy, we've never had one in this country. But hey, it's not like the secular alternative has taken us to great heights now, has it? Is it now, finally, time for real CHANGE we can truly BELIEVE in?

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itsanotherday1 01/26/12 - 09:31 am
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People like this scare me.

People like this scare me. Their religious fervor sounds a little bit like the folks we are fighting.

TParty
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TParty 01/26/12 - 09:36 am
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I'm so happy to read the

I'm so happy to read the comments, which are overwhelming against a theocracy... I'm just so happy!!

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faithson 01/26/12 - 09:39 am
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bj, bringing Mr. Russell into

bj, bringing Mr. Russell into the conversation on this subject is like bringing Bill Ayers on Fox to explain how they keep missing the point. To much 'thinking' necessary to understand your point.

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lovingthesouth72 01/26/12 - 09:44 am
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AMEN Bill! To make this

AMEN Bill! To make this Obaminable mistake twice is just plain stupid. Get this man out of the Whitehouse.

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InChristLove 01/26/12 - 10:30 am
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"God has blessed each of us

"God has blessed each of us with a freedom of choice, a mind, a brain and a heart. May we use our God-given gifts, and our American privilege of voting, with wisdom and discernment in November. "

TParty, don't see anywhere in this letter that Mr. Thweatt or anyone else has suggested a theocracy. I do believe that those of us who put our faith in God and try to live according to His standards would do wise to pray and ask for discernment before casting our vote in November.

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commonsense09 01/26/12 - 10:33 am
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So be sure not to vote for

So be sure not to vote for Mitt (LDS members don't believe in the Trinity) or Newt (3 marriages, at least two affairs) if you want God to be pleased with your vote.

Spreading the wealth is surely wrong! Until you read the Bible, that is.
"Take everything you have, sell it and give it to the poor."
"And all the believers met together in one place and shared everything they had. And they were selling their possessions and belongings and distributing the proceeds to all, as any had need. "
"But if anyone has the world's goods and sees his brother in need, yet closes his heart against him, how does God's love abide in him? Little children, let us not love in word or talk but in deed and in truth."
"If a brother or sister is poorly clothed and lacking in daily food, and one of you says to them, “Go in peace, be warmed and filled,” without giving them the things needed for the body, what good is that?"
"Whoever closes his ear to the cry of the poor will himself call out and not be answered."
"Whoever is generous to the poor lends to the Lord, and he will repay him for his deed."
"Sell your possessions, and give to the needy. Provide yourselves with moneybags that do not grow old, with a treasure in the heavens that does not fail, where no thief approaches and no moth destroys."
"Whoever despises his neighbor is a sinner, but blessed is he who is generous to the poor."
"There was not a needy person among them, for as many as were owners of lands or houses sold them and brought the proceeds of what was sold and laid it at the apostles' feet, and it was distributed to each as any had need."
"He said also to the man who had invited him, “When you give a dinner or a banquet, do not invite your friends or your brothers or your relatives or rich neighbors, lest they also invite you in return and you be repaid. But when you give a feast, invite the poor, the crippled, the lame, the blind, and you will be blessed, because they cannot repay you. For you will be repaid at the resurrection of the just.”

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donna658 01/26/12 - 11:07 am
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So what about the millions of

So what about the millions of us who are not Christian? Do we pray to Jesus for guidance or just listen to all of the fabulously pious Christians who are judging or do we trust our own judgement? Those pious Christians who tell us children are better off with a parent in jail than with 2 parents who are the same sex? What WOULD Jesus DO? I think in my humble Jewish soul that Jesus would ask why we can't just get along. God is supposed to be about love, not hatred and judgement.

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bailmeout5 01/26/12 - 11:09 am
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I'm sorry but America is not

I'm sorry but America is not a Christian nation. It maybe occupied by Christians but that does not make it a Christian nation. The OP wants to uphold the constitution but does not believe in freedom of religion.

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pearlthesquirrel 01/26/12 - 11:15 am
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Oh yea, one more
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Oh yea, one more time...another "pro-religious" letter gets paper, ink, and space in The Augusta Chron - uh, excuse me, The Bible 2.0. How many "pro-religious" letters is that 26 days into 2012? 10,15, 2314? That kind of reminds me of where I used to work....they never had "money" but, the minute you dropped the word "golf", the checkbook was an open cash till. Pro -religious letters run rampant in The Chronicle but, an opposing viewpoint gets printed about twice a year - pathetic! And I quote: "He doesn't believe America was founded on biblical principles!" Interesting - and your proof is? And my proof that it wasn't? Look up The Treaty of Tripoli, ok? Once again, it's that same old tired "America is a country founded on Christian values" argument. It's just like when the "religious" always state: "The Theory of Evolution is just that - a theory." When they say "it's just a theory," do they mean it's just a theory like Einstein's "Theory of Relativity" - like that, is that what they mean by "theory?" And people wonder why Augusta is seen as podunk....hillbilly....redneck...cracker...or any other negative term. As the Scottish philosopher David Hume (1711 - 1776) said: "A wise man proportions his belief to the evidence." What's your evidence? And just for the record, there is absolutely NO way I will vote for Obama in 2012 - so, I'm NOT Pro-Obama. Just like Dragnet baby - just the facts, ma'am....just the facts!

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bailmeout5 01/26/12 - 11:16 am
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I facepalmed for the first

I facepalmed for the first time in my life reading this article.

OJP
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OJP 01/26/12 - 11:39 am
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Everything in this letter is

Everything in this letter is either incorrect or irresponsibly misleading:

(1) The President did not downgrade the U.S.; one rating agency did - the same agency that joined other "expert" agencies in rating all those worthless mortgage-backed securities AAA;

(2) The economy and employment have improved dramatically under this President:

a. GDP: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-IuBFxQhSJD4/TqlPWTN9BlI/AAAAAAAALDQ/2OLD0HNh2F... (source: CalculatedRisk),

b. Employment: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/--hk8a-MeVMU/TwdllysnubI/AAAAAAAAFFI/43x1hcEp-Y... (data source: Labor);

(3) The financial sector bailout was signed by President Bush. The auto bailout, which WAS signed by President Obama, saved 1.14 million jobs: http://www.autoblog.com/2010/12/01/study-auto-bailout-saved-over-1-milli... (source: Center for Automotive Research);

(4) Not sure how to even respond to "attempted to destroy the successful, self-sustaining, optimistic, risk-taking, reward-based culture that has sustained America" - too vague/broad and completely unsupported;

(5) President Obama did say that the U.S. is not a Christian nation, and that is true: see 1st Amendment and Treaty of Tripoli;

(6) Obama called increasing the debt to fund welfare for the rich irresponsible and unpatriotic, not just increasing the debt (and that is hard to disagree with); and, finally, here's a breakdown of when our national debt was accumulated (by President and cause): http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2011/07/28/us/charting-the-american-d...

Good grief, Mr. Thweatt!

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follower 01/26/12 - 11:35 am
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commonsense, indeed the

commonsense, indeed the Bilble does instruct followers to be generous to the needy. The compulsion to be generous is the result of a changed heart and the compassion for others that accompanies that change.

The action of giving is a desire to glorify God with a willing heart. But we shouldn't be threatened with imprisionment by a government that forces giving to a system demonstates its ineptitude at managing resources. And I'm not talking about the collective effort for infrastructure. It's the social constucting that further imprisions people rather than offering all of the attributes that come with a free society.

That is why churches are in the position to make much better use of local funds than is the government. The vetting process determines whether assistance is truly warranted, or is in fact, "enabling". And in no way whatsoever am I calling for a theocracy. The constitution, as written, and intended, is the greatest writing, other than scripture, on which much of it's ideology is based.

That the message of Christ has been hijacked by so many doesn't detract from it's content. One ought never judge a philosophy by its abuse.

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harley_52 01/26/12 - 11:36 am
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Bjphysics posted the quote

Bjphysics posted the quote “The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts.”

Assumedly bj is making the point that he's one of the "wiser people."

As to the seven assertions, I find them to be mostly true, albeit perhaps unprovable to a scientific standard, but conversationally correct nonetheless.

I suppose that sets me aside from bj's group of "wiser people," but I'll be able to live with the emptiness and isolation that presents.

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Little Lamb 01/26/12 - 11:38 am
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OJP wrote: The economy and

OJP wrote:

The economy and employment have improved dramatically under this President.

There are plenty who beg to differ.

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OJP 01/26/12 - 11:44 am
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Little Lamb: People might beg

Little Lamb: People might beg to differ, but facts don't. I provided sources for my claim; please provide sources for yours (assuming you are actually claiming the contrary and not using the old "some people say" tactic).

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Willow Bailey 01/26/12 - 11:47 am
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follower's 10:35 - Excellent.

follower's 10:35 - Excellent.

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Bizkit 01/26/12 - 11:51 am
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Well the assumption is that

Well the assumption is that because of faith one will pick the candidate with this ideology and they will be good and just. But according to Revelations and the end times, God will allow evil and corrupt leaders to rule. So whoever the choice they will likely be evil and corrupt and a part of God's plan. So we must be in the end times because Bush and Obama both seem to fit the bill. hee,hee,hee. It probably won't be Paul because he is not a money hungry war mongerer like all the rest (seems honest-a bad quality for a politician). So if your a christian and you want to help God then vote for Obama or Gingrich because they are both evil corrupt leaders and fill God's plan. Perverse eh???

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specsta 01/26/12 - 11:55 am
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It seems as if the letter

It seems as if the letter writer would rather vote for the adulterer or the super-rich "corporations are people" profiteer or the hidden racist - as opposed to President Obama, a family man with a dedicated wife, beautiful daughters and no hint of scandal in his life.

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Willow Bailey 01/26/12 - 11:55 am
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Regardless of anyone's

Regardless of anyone's opinion, regardless of who is elected or re elected, God is still the creator of All of the universe. He is very much in power and control, and will use whatever and whomever( whether good, evil or some combination thereof) to His own good purposes. I will cast my vote to the best of my understanding, and leave the rest up to the Lord in complete confidence.

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TParty 01/26/12 - 11:57 am
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ICL- "Theocracy is a form of

ICL-

"Theocracy is a form of government in which the official policy is to be governed by immediate divine guidance or by officials who are regarded as divinely guided, or simply pursuant to the doctrine of a particular religious sect or religion".

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