Obama saps our freedom

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I heard a terrible rumor. I heard that President Obama signed a bill into law that would give him the right to detain and hold an American citizen without due process. Americans have heard almost nothing about this supposed action from the media. Where is the coverage?

While I am not religious by nature, I firmly believe that the biblical injunction that “as ye sow, so shall ye reap” is true. Obama has been setting himself up to be a dictator, and now we are seeing that the American citizens who thought that this was the case were correct. Obama neither will deport illegal aliens nor convict terrorists, but he will terrorize American citizens while taking away their constitutional rights. He is supported by a corrupt Congress and such outstanding politicians as Nancy Pelosi.

When are Americans going to stop being a nation of sheep and stop the corruption and ruin of the United States?

Victoria Antonacci

North Augusta, S.C.

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skeptic griggsy
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skeptic griggsy 01/16/12 - 04:01 am
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Then help us of the ACLU!
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Then help us of the ACLU! Nevertheless, we could persuade him to do otherwise whilst the Republi-cons would do worse!
Rep. Pelosi is not corupt.
Is Bill Maher right about the two matters he alleges that the president will do when reelected?

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Jon Lester 01/16/12 - 07:45 am
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You've just indicated that
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You've just indicated that the Augusta Chronicle, along with every other for-profit news outlet in this country, has failed to adequately report on either the National Defense Authorization Act or the pending "Stop Online Piracy Act." I wonder if you would have been bothered to care if this had happened under a Republican administration?

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southernguy08 01/16/12 - 08:43 am
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JON, if this happened under a
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JON, if this happened under a Republican administration, YOU would be the one griping.

TParty
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TParty 01/16/12 - 08:49 am
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What's interesting is that

What's interesting is that the right will fight Obama on absolutely everything. Even when it comes to ensuring taxes for the middle class do not raise. There has only been one thing where the Republicans and democrats have worked together- and that has been the NDAA. It does have language in the bill to detain Americans- anyone- without trial so long as it falls into the war on terror category. Good luck defining that. But don't worry everybody!! On New Years, Obama stated his administration will not use that portion on Americans. Lucky us.

I'm hoping the Supreme Court will fix this.

It's scary what Congress and the White House will do....

And now this SOPA....

While the media tries to get sound-bites from Presidential candidates about birth control, making up hypothetical scenarios about them being banned- our real liberties are being eroded and stolen....

To give credit where credit is due- under the Obama administration, record number of deportations have been occurring.

When this country is no longer land of the free- will it matter who is here?

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Bruno 01/16/12 - 08:50 am
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Mr. Lester, it isn't

Mr. Lester, it isn't happening under a Republican administration so your "wondering" is obviously simply an attempt to deflect scrutiny of this administration.

Bruno
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Bruno 01/16/12 - 09:02 am
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TParty, one side will always

TParty, one side will always fight the other on an issue that they disagree with. It isn't only that the right that does it.

TParty
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TParty 01/16/12 - 09:32 am
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Bruno- you missed the point

Bruno- you missed the point entirely. The ability for our President to detain anyone without trial is a huge deal, our right to a fair trail is an essential inalienable right. I'm not a lawyer- but I'm pretty sure our 6th and 14th amendment rights are in jeopardy.

But congress worked together on that one!! There was no disagreeing with taking rights away from Americans. Nope. Want to fix the health care system, this country will look like it's on it's way to a civil war. Want to put American's away without due process in the name of war on terror? Have at it, no one cares. American idol will be on soon enough.

Bruno
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Bruno 01/16/12 - 10:04 am
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I got your point about the

I got your point about the detaining. (It wasn't that hard.) But my point is that the idea that one side is "obstructionist" when they are simply blocking an agenda they don't agree with is ridiculous. The right will not fight Obama on everything. They will fight him on the issues they don't agree with. This also works in reverse. Until the public realizes that the "Our team is the greatest!" sports mentality when applied to politics means that the spectators (us) get screwed we will be in the same state we are in now. The picking one side over the other at the expense of reason is what allows the politicians to do what ever they want with no recourse to the public. There are some good ideas on both the left and the right. There are plenty horrible ideas on both sides.

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allhans 01/16/12 - 10:32 am
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Why do we have two sides? So

Why do we have two sides? So they can offer differing opinions I would guess.

blackindependent
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blackindependent 01/16/12 - 10:15 am
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As long as the ranks of those

As long as the ranks of those who depend upon the FED keeps growing faster than the ranks of those who do not, our system will not only stay messed up like it is but it will grow much worse, to the point where a majority of us are in the same boat. The ones who fight hardest for the status quo don't seem to realize when THAT happens THEY are the ones who will have to pick up an oar because right now, others are doing all the rowing.

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Chillen 01/16/12 - 10:23 am
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Obama is not only sapping our

Obama is not only sapping our freedoms, he is sapping our desire to succeed, our desire to stand out above the rest, our desire to grow our business, our desire to better ourselves, our desire to be American.

When you have a "leader" who stands on his soapbox and reads his teleprompter messages of wealth redistribution and hear about his desire to punish success and give their success to those who make bad decisions, then eventually you get beaten down & just don't try as hard. That is a HUGE part of why America is not recovering economically right now.

Thanks obama. You are the worst President the United States has ever had. Go back to communist-mobster-Chicago land. At least you are appreciated there.

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burninater 01/16/12 - 10:52 am
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That is a HUGE part of why

That is a HUGE part of why America is not recovering economically right now.
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Uh, news flash, Chillen ...

burninater
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burninater 01/16/12 - 10:59 am
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I agree Obama had no business

I agree Obama had no business signing this bill as it stands, but the letter writer is showing a complete lack of understanding of how this bill was crafted. It has bipartisan authorship, was passed by the Republican House, and the detention clause was vigorously defended by your very own Lindsay Graham. Additionally, the powers codified in this bill are identical to those first claimed by Bush post-9/11.

It's good to be concerned about govt power grabs, but if you have been so deceived by propagandists that you don't even know who's responsible for them, they're going to just keep on happening.

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faithson 01/16/12 - 11:11 am
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this LTE is a prime example

this LTE is a prime example of the research that found 'fox news viewers' were less informed than people who did not even listen to the news. Anyone who knows the facts on this issue know it was the 'right' that wanted this 'detain' clause in the bill.

Chillen
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Chillen 01/16/12 - 11:22 am
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I'm still eagerly waiting for

I'm still eagerly waiting for the newsflash burninator.

I did not say that Republicans had nothing to do with this individual issue. What I did say it that obama is a wealth redistribution cheerleader and success bashing loser. That is a fact.

faithson
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faithson 01/16/12 - 11:57 am
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'obama is a wealth

'obama is a wealth redistribution cheerleader and success bashing loser'.. kinda like 'eye witness accounts' of a crime scene... each witness sees something more or less than another. So I can appreciate chillen's take on his 'eyewitness', but to take it as 'Gospel' would be foolish.

specsta
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specsta 01/16/12 - 12:04 pm
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I was very disappointed that

I was very disappointed that President Obama signed the NDAA, even with his reassurances via a signing statement - "The fact that I support this bill as a whole does not mean I agree with everything in it. I have signed this bill despite having serious reservations with certain provisions that regulate the detention, interrogation and prosecution of suspected terrorists.”

The fact is, this law is an expansion of the PATRIOT act, masterminded by the Bush Administration and approved by Congress in response to the "terrorists are everywhere" disinformation campaign. Unfortunately, President Obama did not bring a swift end to that charade, but continued it with re-authorization of the Patriot Act - and now the NDAA.

That being said, I mostly lay the blame on Congress. Most of them don't even read the bills they vote on, and some don't even show up to vote. They craft laws that are payback for political favors and bow their knees before their corporate masters. And that's the Congress our President has to work with to pass legislation - a serious uphill battle.

I think Obama is a very good President who looks out for the interests of the poor and common folk. He has made some missteps, but he is the best thing since President Clinton. The problem is that he has to work with a Congress that is too old and too uninformed about new technologies and future progress. The President inherited an absolute nightmare from the Bush Administration, and it takes time to clean up a mess of that magnitude. Throw that in with right-wing conservatives whose only goal is to see Obama be voted out of Office, and the pressure that our President faces is almost unimaginable. Yet he continues to do what he believes is right for the country, despite the opposition.

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Chillen 01/16/12 - 12:21 pm
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specsta - Is obama looking

specsta - Is obama looking out for the interest of poor & common folks while he is playing his 100th round of golf? Or while he vacations at luxury resorts in India, Hawaii, Brazil, the UK, Spain, Williamsburg or Martha's Vineyard? Or was he doing it at one of his dozens of private luxury white house parties such as his recent and secret Alice in Wonderland party or his private Stevie Wonder bash? Or is he doing it while he pays for his daughters private school? Or is he doing it while Michelle runs around spending $2000 on dresses and boasts the largest First Lady staff of servants in U.S. History. Or is he doing it while he gives $500 million of taxpayer money to companies that he knows are failing - kind of a "gift" for his campaign supporters.

President of the poor and the common man........Hah! Boy does he have you folks fooled.

How ironic that you blame obama's issues on Congress yet you blame Bush personally for his issues and not his liberal/democrat Congress. The word hypocrisy just popped into my head.

Chillen
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Chillen 01/16/12 - 12:26 pm
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@faithson. But I still don't

@faithson. But I still don't see any evidence supporting otherwise, so I guess my "eyewitness" account is 100% correct.

It's so hard to defend the indefensible (i.e. obama) isn't it? You liberals have a very difficult job. I'm actually starting to feel sorry for you.

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Willow Bailey 01/16/12 - 12:31 pm
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@Chillen "What I did say it

@Chillen "What I did say it that obama is a wealth redistribution cheerleader and success bashing loser. That is a fact."

Another fact, Chillen, He LIKES his own success though; he's not sucking it up and tightening his belt for the good of the country, like he suggests for all of us. His supporters need a revelation of some truth.

I refer them to blackindependent's great 9:15 post.

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CobaltGeorge 01/16/12 - 12:34 pm
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Chillen, let me add to your

Chillen, let me add to your 11:21.

THE STIMULUS AT WORK!

Some have said that the stimulus hasn't saved any jobs, but here is a case where at least one job was saved.
Take for instance Oregon State University Athletic DirectorBob DeCarolis. Now Mr. DeCarolis was considering firing their Basketball Coach.......Craig Robinson after an 8 -11 start (2-5) in the Pac 10 conference.
When word reached Washington, Undersecretary of Education
Martha Kanter was dispatched to Corvallis with $17 million
in stimulus money for the university. Thankfully, Craig Robinson's job is safe for another year.
Now comes the interesting part of our story....For those of you unfamiliar with Coach Robinson, he just so happens to be the brother in law of none other than our country's beloved President.
NOW YOU’RE CATCHING ON.....that's right he is the brother of
Michelle Obama!
But hey, can't we all come to the conclusion that Coach Robinson's job security was all just a coincidence?
I'm sure of it .... Aren't You?

Thank Goodness For The Stimulus!!!

But $17 million for one job? I wonder what mine is worth?

Willow Bailey
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Willow Bailey 01/16/12 - 12:34 pm
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Chillen's 11:21 knocks it out

Chillen's 11:21 knocks it out of the Augusta, Ga. DC Stadium!

Willow Bailey
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Willow Bailey 01/16/12 - 12:38 pm
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CG, you need a column.

CG, you need a column.

specsta
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specsta 01/16/12 - 12:54 pm
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Chillen, I would say that a

Chillen, I would say that a President who delayed his Christmas vacation with his family for 6 days to make sure Congress passed the payroll tax cut extension and extended unemployment benefits to displaced workers is a President that puts the country ahead of his own personal life.

Also, President Obama spent a total of 23 days on vacation (some mixed with business) during his first year in Office, compared to George Bush's 69 days of vacation during his first year.

I recently saw a candid photo of the President taking the time to fist-bump a janitor as he walked through a hallway. I seriously doubt that George Bush would have even acknowledged that janitor's existence.

Fact-checking is a wonderful thing.

Chillen
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Chillen 01/16/12 - 01:09 pm
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Specsta. Oh my. He delayed

Specsta. Oh my. He delayed his 2 week luxury Hawaii vacation by a few days. He did manage to get in some nice photo ops with his dog during those 6 days though. Plus it was part of his re-election strategy (much like his "fist bumping" photo op). He certainly wasn't doing it because he loves America.

And, actually the way I heard it is that Michelle simply could not wait to get there so she spent hundreds of thousands of taxpayer dollars to fly herself & her little darlings out there early. Instead of being frugal, saving us hard working taxpayers some money and waiting for her husband like any normal wife would do.

Bush's "vacation" days were spent at his personal ranch. Obama, hasn't vacationed once in his Chicago Rezko communist home that I'm aware of. You are comparing apples & oranges. Luxury taxpayer funded vacations vs going home.

Plus, when Bush was President, our economy wasn't in a total shambles. Now it is. Obama has a responsibility to lead by example. So does his spend happy wife. He's not doing it.

Fact checking is a wonderful thing. When your facts are straight and you compare apples to apples.

Chillen
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Chillen 01/16/12 - 01:16 pm
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Speaking of facts. Here's

Speaking of facts. Here's some tasty obama vacation stats from the NY Post.

Now its from late 2010 - but as of that point, he'd taken 90 vacation days. That is not even counting 2011 vacation days.

Seems someone needs to check their "facts" a bit more before posting.

"When it came time to unwind, Obama relaxed with six vacation trips that spanned all or part of 32 days (in 2010). In 2009, he took four vacations over 58 days, according to Knoller."

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/president_obama_year_in_numbers_gm...

Ouch.

madgerman
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madgerman 01/16/12 - 01:40 pm
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Is this a new law, or a
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Is this a new law, or a continuation of a past policy?

skeptic griggsy
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skeptic griggsy 01/16/12 - 01:40 pm
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Thanks fellow enlightened
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Thanks fellow enlightened ones!
Andrew Sullivan, an enlightened conservative truly fathoms the magnificicence of the president in Newsweek! Leftists underestimate him as they did FDR!

skeptic griggsy
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skeptic griggsy 01/16/12 - 01:43 pm
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I deleted chillen for his or
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I deleted chillen for his or her nonsense.

bjphysics
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bjphysics 01/16/12 - 01:55 pm
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Soylent Green is Republican

Soylent Green is Republican People!

True but the efficacy of this policy is rarely explored, Republicans are 67% fat, mostly in the area including and surrounding their heads; however, they are also 33% protein elsewhere and provide a great source of nutrition.

Yet another example of the media’s neglect of the Tea Parties contribution to the General Welfare.

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