Treat U.S. rich like a queen

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Did you see where Parliament froze Queen Elizabeth II’s income? Parliament recently froze the income she receives from her properties at 15 percent every two years until 2015. It was widely reported she will make “only” $32.1 million pounds ($50 million) from her estate for 2010 and 2011.

This should worry everyone! Prince William’s wedding alone cost $60 million! Now she can’t do the same for poor Prince Harry! What’s the world got left to care about if Prince Harry is given an envelope with a little pooled money in it to elope to Vegas because Granny doesn’t have $60 million a year to throw around anymore? Did life just lose all meaning?

I kid. Life still has some meaning. And I haven’t seen a single person of any political persuasion do anything but act sarcastically sympathetic for the queen making “only” $50 million. Indeed, the queen’s “poor” earnings have been a universally bipartisan laughfest, which doesn’t make sense.

If it’s laughable anyone should care the queen
made “only” $50 million, and Parliament is merely being prudent taking 85 percent of her earnings and putting them toward straightening out Britain’s financial problems, why wouldn’t it also be as prudent of our government to tax Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg, Donald Trump, Bill Gates, Rupert Murdoch, etc., at 85 percent?

Why is it ridiculous to feel at all sorry for Queen Elizabeth II being taxed at 85 percent, yet tyrannical for our government to do the same thing to people who make as much or more than she does? Why is Parliament so responsible for taxing its queen at 85 percent, but President Obama is branded a fascist-Marxist dictator for daring to ask Congress to raise income taxes 6 percent to a “whopping” 39 percent on America’s equally wealthy?

Well, as with British royal weddings, we appear to have a not-so-laughable love affair with unconscious irony.

Nathan Kirby

Augusta

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copperhead
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copperhead 12/21/11 - 03:28 am
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The feds should tax everyone

The feds should tax everyone @ 100% and supply us what we need! They know what is best for us all and they are here to help. The government knows best how to distribute money fairly and should be allowed to do what is best for us.

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carcraft 12/21/11 - 06:20 am
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Mathan, lets tax you at 50%,

Mathan, lets tax you at 50%, after all you reallly don't need cable, internet, you probably leave lights on to long and eat to much unhealthy food and don't exercise enough. If we tax you enough then you could become healther and live longer, why waste federal taxation on just 50% of the poplulation when we could do even more for welfare queens etc if we taxed 75% of the population!

nofanofobama
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nofanofobama 12/21/11 - 07:23 am
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instead of taxing theses rich

instead of taxing theses rich people to punish them for sucess and contributing to the economic good of society just quit buying the fruits of those successful people..dont buy computer and its hardware dont buy i-pods etc..just quit buyng those evil products by those selfish rich people..then they wont be rich and create million of jobs but we will punish them by gosh and hope this makes you all re-distribution feel better...

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Pu239 12/21/11 - 07:38 am
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Calm down Nathan....you are
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Calm down Nathan....you are only a month away from your EIC refund.

Fundamental_Arminian
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Fundamental_Arminian 12/21/11 - 08:44 am
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Correct me if I'm wrong; but

Correct me if I'm wrong; but isn't Queen Elizabeth II paid from the public trough simply for making public appearances and opening the sessions of Parliament? How then is she comparable to Americans whose prosperity has come from working hard and managing their money wisely?

Wouldn't it be better to compare her to Americans who live off the dole? Why not tax the welfare queens at 85% of their income?

Better yet, why not have a flat tax? That's the kind of system God commanded when he implemented the tithe. All of us should pay the same percentage of our income so that the government can't confiscate some people's wealth in order to buy other people's votes.

southernguy08
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southernguy08 12/21/11 - 08:44 am
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Still with the old wealth
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Still with the old wealth envy, eh Nate? The difference is, old queenie didn't do anything for her wealth but be born. Many of the wealthy you speak of got it by hard work, risk taking, and sacrifice. Their companies create millions of jobs. And last, but not least, THEY'RE ALREADY PAYING THE BULK OF TAXES IN THIS COUNTRY!

nofanofobama
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nofanofobama 12/21/11 - 08:54 am
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you just have to much time if

you just have to much time if you sit around and worry what the rich pay in taxes...they pay far more than any of us..and does it make you feel better if you punish others for hard work and success?? if so i feel sorry for you

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augusta citizen 12/21/11 - 09:29 am
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Yep Fundamental_Arminian,

Yep Fundamental_Arminian, Queen Elizabeth II will live off the public dole from cradle to grave. It's how her ancestors and off-spring live too. This letter writer is definitely comparing her to the wrong group of folks!

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Chillen 12/21/11 - 10:10 am
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Fundamental_Arminian got it

Fundamental_Arminian got it exactly right. I'm surprised that Mr. Kirby didn't do his research before spitting out a letter to the editor.

You cannot compare the Queen of England to self made billionaires.

You CAN compare the Queen of England to obama however. The King & Queen of the USA are about to embark on yet another $7-$8 MILLION vacation to Hawaii. Compliments of.......... drum roll please........ the taxpayers of the United States of America.

I say cut them back by 85%. Does the US President and his family really need to embark on so many luxury vacations to India, Spain, Brazil, Williamsburg, multiple times to Hawaii, Martha's Vineyard, United Kingdom, etc. etc etc?

Don't they realize we are in a massive recession and the US govt is broke? Of course they do, they just don't care. They feel "entitled" to our money.

Times are very, very hard and the obama's are partying, celebrating and traveling. Meanwhile you are trying to figure out how to pay for your inflated groceries, your power bill and your mortgage - all the while wondering if your job or your business will still be there in 6 months.

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allhans 12/21/11 - 10:11 am
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Wealth envy knows no limits,

Wealth envy knows no limits, nor are there rules or guidelines.

Just hand your hard earned money over.

crkgrdn
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crkgrdn 12/21/11 - 10:28 am
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So sad. Another example of a

So sad. Another example of a product of the public school. There's a great clip on youtube of Phil Donahue interviewing Milton Friedman about greed and who decides who is greedy and how greedy. Also Friedman's book, "Free to Choose" is the best book on economics yet, juster after Friedrich Hayek's "Road to Serfdom." Have a look and the do some investigating for facts and evidence and realize what is really at stake here. Political freedom and economic freedom are riders on a tandem bicycle.

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Riverman1 12/21/11 - 10:34 am
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Seeing Phil Donahue interview

Seeing Phil Donahue interview any thinking conservative makes you feel embarrassed. It's like Austin interviewing Rudy Giuliani. Anyone hear that? Heh, heh, heh.

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JRC2024 12/21/11 - 10:48 am
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I have always thought that

I have always thought that the British monarchy was a crock. The British people do not deserve to pay for the grand lifestyle of the so called royals and 60 million for a wedding is just awful when so many are hungry and the economy needs uplifting. But so is 6-8 million for a vacation to the islands by obama. Too bad the law says you can still vote while on welfare. They will always have their handout. Don't be embarresed because you are conservative.

scorehouse
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scorehouse 12/21/11 - 11:14 am
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such ignorance. most of the
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such ignorance. most of the queens income is from assets owned by the queen not annual salary paid by the state. she actually pays more in income taxes than she recieves from the state. however, if you include monies the state spends for security, state visits around the world,etc. it is more. no different than the obamas, pelosi, etc and their fleet of jets. limos, etc. travelling back and forth to hawaii and around the world. its an abused perk by every government official in the world. but what is the value of tourism dollars spent in england on everything royal? why would you care if she spends 60 million on a wedding? that money went directly to people performing jobs and producing goods. our government doesn't have an income problem, it has a spending problem. deficits are due to over-spending not lack of tax revenue. we need a balance budget amendment now!

scorehouse
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scorehouse 12/21/11 - 11:19 am
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by the way, why are you
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by the way, why are you complaining when we already do what has been done to the queen? ever heard of rent controlled properties? in several states, private property owners are told by the state how much they can charge for rent. you should be happy. merry marxist christmas!

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follower 12/21/11 - 11:25 am
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Nathan, Nathan,

Nathan, Nathan, Nathan....

Getting your news in blurbs I see. The Queens entire budget for staff, travel, appearances, upkeep, utilities, on and on, is now $47 million, a far cry from the $1.5 billion it take to run the White House.

The salary for all of the Royals is around 600,000 pounds yearly for official duties. Many of their expenses are borne personally.

So, in essence, you're all for taking the families wealth, despite the fact that it's been passed down for centuries. How dare they be rich.

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stillamazed 12/21/11 - 11:50 am
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I don't understand the whole

I don't understand the whole royal family thing myself....I totally agree with JRC2024 on that one, but at any rate, you certainly cannot compare the queen to the U.S. economy. Instead of the government wanting to take, take , take, they should stop wasting, wasting, wasting....clean up Washington and the waste going on there and perhaps we will see some improvements.

itsanotherday
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itsanotherday 12/21/11 - 12:08 pm
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JRC2024: "Too bad the law
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JRC2024: "Too bad the law says you can still vote while on welfare. They will always have their handout. Don't be embarresed because you are conservative."

An appropriate quote:

A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years.

itsanotherday
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itsanotherday 12/21/11 - 12:18 pm
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Another appropriate parable,
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Another appropriate parable, just remove Obama and insert any other "tax the rich" purveyor:

An economics professor at a local college made a statement that he had
never failed a single student before, but had recently failed an entire
class. That class had insisted that Obama's socialism worked and that no
one would be poor and no one would be rich, a great equalizer.

The professor then said, "OK, we will have an experiment in this class on
Obama's plan"…
All grades would be averaged and everyone would receive the same grade so
no one would fail and no one would receive an A....

After the first test, the grades were averaged and everyone got a B. The
students who studied hard were upset and the students who studied little
were happy. As the second test rolled around, the students who studied
little had studied even less and the ones who studied hard decided they
wanted a free ride too so they studied little.

The second test average was a D! No one was happy.
When the 3rd test rolled around, the average was an F.

As the tests proceeded, the scores never increased as bickering, blame and
name-calling all resulted in hard feelings and no one would study for the
benefit of anyone else.

All failed, to their great surprise, and the professor told them that
socialism would also ultimately fail because… ****

*when the reward is great, the effort to succeed is great, but when
government takes all the reward away, no one will try or want to succeed. **
***

Could not be any simpler than that.

****

Chillen
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Chillen 12/21/11 - 12:52 pm
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You've got it 100% right

You've got it 100% right Young Fred. When they become the majority, state secessions will begin. Their model will never work. Not in a million years.

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crkgrdn 12/21/11 - 01:09 pm
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Americans in there heart of

Americans in there heart of hearts envy the British monarchy. We will be glued to the TV when they marry or die, as we were with Lady Diana. So, what do we do to make up for it? We gladly support so-called Hollywood and sports celebrities.

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onlysane1left 12/21/11 - 02:27 pm
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If wealth envy is wrong, try

If wealth envy is wrong, try welfare prejudice. You can't be too rich, nor too poor, or you'll just get ripped by the media! I guess we are all just need to be average to stay out of the limelight, you think?

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RogerDavis 12/21/11 - 02:52 pm
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Mr. Kirby's premise is

Mr. Kirby's premise is obviously flawed. Correct me if I'm wrong but the Queen doesn't "earn" anything. She is paid a stipend from the treasury. Whereas the Bill Gates and Warren Buffet's earn their wealth by owning and running prosperous companies which employ hundreds of thousands of people. Who in turn pay taxes and help our economy. A flawed premise will always result in flawed results...

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eagle 12/21/11 - 03:04 pm
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Mr. Kirby, you're comparing
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Mr. Kirby, you're comparing "apples and oranges." Quit drinking the kool-aid.

bailmeout4
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bailmeout4 12/21/11 - 04:03 pm
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Kirby, An extra 6% for me

Kirby,

An extra 6% for me would be $18,000. Probably many multiples over what you pay. The 47% of America that doesn't pay a dime can thank the 1% later. So stop the rhetoric and actually sit down and think about it. Most of the 1% are doctors, lawyers, dentists, small business owners. I paid my way through college and med school amassing $200,000 in loans at 5% interest. I don't mind paying my fair share but enough is enough.

NotQuiteHome
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NotQuiteHome 12/21/11 - 05:43 pm
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As usual, you got the

As usual, you got the vacation thing wrong. The only part of the vacation borne by taxpayers will be those connected with the trappings of his office--like the secure comm equipment, Secret Service, the flight... The Hawaii Reporter states that the Obamas are not staying at the "Winter White House" this year and instead have rented and paid for their own accommodations, in the form of a beach front rental on Kailua.

While y'all are complaining about the cost of this vacation, you might want to go back and look at how much it cost the taxpayers every time Bush decided to hang out at the ranch--he charged the government rent for his own Secret Service coverage staying on the property.

NotQuiteHome
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NotQuiteHome 12/21/11 - 05:47 pm
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"bailmeout4", even the

"bailmeout4", even the proposed extra for the 1% wouldn't kick in till the SECOND million, so most of those people you list would still not trigger that tax. The people who would be affected are those who are bringing in tens of millions a year--not those you cite.

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allhans 12/21/11 - 11:21 pm
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Rent it and charge it off to

Rent it and charge it off to your expense account? Is that the way it's done?

I didn't realize that we the people owned a "Winter White house", when did this purchase take place?

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