'Chronicle,' Rubio off base

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Reading your Oct. 29 editorial relating to the senator from Florida, Marco Rubio (“Does Marco Rubio cause cancer?’), I thought either you were misinformed or you have a biased political agenda. Issues such as Mr. Rubio’s twisted saga must be thoroughly investigated. Now to the facts.

Like hundreds of thousands of Cubans, Mr. Rubio’s parents fled the island in the late 1950s, most of them escaping from the bloody Batista regime (something their son should be proud of); but oddly enough he never mentioned his mother’s return to Cuba in 1961, at a time Fidel Castro already pompously declared “his Marxism-Leninism since he was born.”

Months later, Mrs. Rubio came back to Miami. Obviously what really disturbed Mr. Rubio was the thought of his mother being in favor of the Cuban Revolution, like millions of Cubans were at that time. And by the way, the news of his mother’s return to Cuba was published nationwide. The bottom line is that Mr. Rubio purposely ignored this particular part of family history for obvious reasons.

Finally, I believe Mr. Rubio is ignorant of Cuba’s history, and I don’t think he knows the one of his adopted country either.

Being a serious newspaper, you should correct your editorial, reporting actual events.

Joaquin Godoy

Aiken, S.C.

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carcraft
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carcraft 11/17/11 - 05:47 am
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Mr. Godoy- When will you ask

Mr. Godoy- When will you ask for an investigation of the irregularities in President Obama's "life Story"? The press asked Obama one question about Bill Ayers, none about the Rev Wright, none about Calypso Louie, nothing about his admitted drug use, the inconsistances in his claims about the March on Selma, the Kennedy air lift and his days of community organizing. Need I go on? Lets throughly investigate Obama's twisted saga, after all he is the President!

carcraft
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carcraft 11/17/11 - 06:00 am
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I wonder if people are going

I wonder if people are going to ask for a through investigation of Brightsource, Lolyndra, etc..After all these are really American tax dollars that were thrown away in corrupt political crony capitalism!

Riverman1
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Riverman1 11/17/11 - 06:02 am
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Let's go over this. The

Let's go over this. The Rubio's came to Florida in 1956 while Batista was still in power, but the revolution had begun with Castro organizing his leadership from Mexico. Fleeing the dictator Batista was not a bad thing either. Rubio's mother, Oriales, went back to Cuba after Castro gained power, but she didn't stay long. She once again fled a brutal dictator, Castro. There is nothing disgraceful about fleeing dictatorships of any kind. It appears the Rubios, or at least his mother, did it twice.

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Carleton Duvall 11/17/11 - 06:20 am
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I cannot help but wonder what

I cannot help but wonder what is the point of this letter. I don't give a flip about Rubio's parents escapades whether good or bad. Each generation has to stand on its own feet. Rubio seems to have his head screwed on just right(pun intended)

southernguy08
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southernguy08 11/17/11 - 08:24 am
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Vice President Rubio...sure
Unpublished

Vice President Rubio...sure sounds a lot better than what we have now!

allhans
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allhans 11/17/11 - 09:03 am
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I'm with scooby..what is the

I'm with scooby..what is the point of this letter?
Why would Rubio go through every boring detail when there is no need.
If the writer has a grievance with Rubio, he might want to forget it. He is wasting his time.

Carleton Duvall
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Carleton Duvall 11/17/11 - 09:27 am
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Not that I give a rip but

Not that I give a rip but this is taken from Wikipedia. What difference does it make when his parents left Cuba? They left.period

"Son of exiles" controversy

In October 2011, the St. Petersburg Times and the Washington Post reported that Rubio's previous statements that his parents were forced to leave Cuba in 1959, after Fidel Castro came to power, were incorrect as they had in fact left Cuba in 1956 during the dictatorship of Fulgencio Batista. According to the Washington Post, Rubio's "embellishments" resonate with many voters in Florida, who would not be as impressed by his family being economic migrants seeking a better life in the U.S. instead of being political refugees from a communist regime.[7] Rubio responded, "The real essence of my family’s story is not about the date my parents first entered the United States. Or whether they traveled back and forth between the two nations. Or even the date they left Fidel Castro’s Cuba forever and permanently settled here."[29][30][31] According to a number of commentators within the Cuban exile community in Miami, Rubio is justified to continue to characterize himself as a son of exiles.[31][32]
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burninater 11/17/11 - 09:38 am
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Hmm, I wonder if his mother

Hmm, I wonder if his mother still had family and friends in her home country? Naaah, she most have returned as a symbol of solidarnosc! And thus her legacy forever stained ...

Purity now!

bjphysics
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bjphysics 11/17/11 - 10:05 am
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“Issues such as Mr. Rubio’s

“Issues such as Mr. Rubio’s twisted saga must be thoroughly investigated.”

Give me a break; this is a minor matter in the greater scheme of things. His parents left in 1956 when he was -15 years old, his mother returned to Cuba in 1961 when Marco was -10 years old. Some have suggested she may have returned to visit family; this is unlikely because everybody knows family is not important to Latinos (sarcasm off). Marco may or may not have knowingly embellished his family resume. I say he did not, I say he relayed the embellished family story told to him by his parents about events that happened long before he was born. I give him the benefit of the doubt.

Move along here, nothing to see.

Riverman1
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Riverman1 11/17/11 - 10:15 am
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Sure his mother had relatives

Sure his mother had relatives there.

Know what everyone misses here? I'm a Rubio fan, but he wasn't born in the U.S. Doesn't that mean he can never be president? Or does that just not matter anymore? Probably.

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Chillen 11/17/11 - 10:17 am
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riverman. If you are a

riverman. If you are a conservative it matters. If you are a liberal it doesn't. You must not have the handbook yet explaining the rules.

burninater
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burninater 11/17/11 - 10:38 am
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Yawn. Let us know when we

Yawn. Let us know when we have had a liberal president without proof of native birth. Then we can start with the smears.

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harley_52 11/17/11 - 10:42 am
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Riverman1 said "Know what

Riverman1 said "Know what everyone misses here? I'm a Rubio fan, but he wasn't born in the U.S. Doesn't that mean he can never be president? Or does that just not matter anymore?"

According to Wikipedia he was born in Miami, FL, USA.

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Riverman1 11/17/11 - 10:53 am
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Harley, really? I didn't know

Harley, really? I didn't know that. Thanks for the correction. Can I see his birth certificate? Heh.

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CorporalGripweed 11/17/11 - 10:56 am
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The point of this letter was

The point of this letter was to "bash" a conservative. Period. All the while ignoring stories about our liberal politicians.

Riverman1
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Riverman1 11/17/11 - 11:01 am
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Harley, guess that was a duh

Harley, guess that was a duh moment on my part if his parents came here in 1956 and he is 40. I had read something about Alan Keyes saying Rubio couldn't qualify for citizenship because of something and I assumed.....Wonder what Keyes meant?

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harley_52 11/17/11 - 11:25 am
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Not sure, Riverman. There's

Not sure, Riverman. There's always a possibility that Keyes is right and Wikipedia is wrong. I had never heard a question about his birth place before.

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harley_52 11/17/11 - 11:26 am
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CorporalGripweed said "The

CorporalGripweed said "The point of this letter was to "bash" a conservative. Period. All the while ignoring stories about our liberal politicians."

Nailed it.

Carleton Duvall
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Carleton Duvall 11/17/11 - 11:37 am
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harley, I have a liberal

harley, I have a liberal friend who, after I proved that he was wrong on a matter, emailed me back and said that Wikipedia could be altered. The issue was whether Newt had handed his cancer ridden divorce papers in the hospital. Wikipedia refuted that.

harley_52
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harley_52 11/17/11 - 12:33 pm
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He's right, scoobydo. It CAN

He's right, scoobydo. It CAN be. At least that's what I've heard. Whenever I've heard it pointed out has been in a situation like you describe where somebody has just been "proven" wrong by something in Wikipedia. Maybe it was altered about Rubio's birth place, I can't say for sure.

I've seen him interviewed many times and even asked questions about running for VP and President and his birth place has never been mentioned as an issue.

My guess.....that some liberal started a rumor as payback to all the "birthers" Obama has had to deal with.

Carleton Duvall
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Carleton Duvall 11/17/11 - 12:56 pm
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Harley, is there any source

Harley, is there any source that you can depend on anymore. I use to go to SNOPES but have lost confidence in that site. I guess I will have to be satisfied in being fat, dumb and happy.

harley_52
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harley_52 11/17/11 - 01:35 pm
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scoobydo asked "is there any

scoobydo asked "is there any source that you can depend on anymore?"

I wish I could say "yes," scoobydo, but I can't. I surely don't trust info found on most of the .gov sites. And SNOPES has a known liberal bias.

In my opinion, the most accurate source of National news is FoxNews.com. That will draw howls of protest from the left, but the NEWS reporting on FoxNews is more accurate and less biased than any other on TV.

As for what you get when you google key words, it's a crapshoot, at least in my opinion.

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Bizkit 11/17/11 - 01:48 pm
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Why not discuss the abject

Why not discuss the abject poverty and poor conditions the people of Cuba endure. This Wikipedia article excerpt gives a hint: The Cuban state adheres to socialist principles in organizing its largely state-controlled planned economy. Most of the means of production are owned and run by the government and most of the labor force is employed by the state. Recent years have seen a trend towards more private sector employment. By 2006, public sector employment was 78% and private sector 22%, compared to 91.8% to 8.2% in 1981.[100] Capital investment is restricted and requires approval by the government. The Cuban government sets most prices and rations goods. Any firm wishing to hire a Cuban must pay the Cuban government, which in turn will pay the employee in Cuban pesos.[101] Cubans can not change jobs without government permission.[51] The average wage at the end of 2005 was 334 regular pesos per month ($16.70 per month) and the average pension was $9 per month.[102]"
So this is a cautionary tale for those pinkos who want the same.

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Vito45 11/17/11 - 02:05 pm
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CorporalGripweed Thursday,

CorporalGripweed
Thursday, Nov. 17 10:56 AM
"The point of this letter was to "bash" a conservative. Period. All the while ignoring stories about our liberal politicians."

Exactly. This writer is a certified flaming leftie as indicated by his past writings. You can tell when they get fearful of someone, the smearing comes out en force. Watch for Rubio to start drawing more fire from the left, attempting to tarnish his rising star.

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Carleton Duvall 11/17/11 - 02:46 pm
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Harley, I would have just

Harley, I would have just about the same chance as a snowball in h--- of convincing my liberal friends with anything from Fox News. Of course, my chances are about the same regardless of my source. Liberals are a hard case. Sometimes I wish that they could get what they ask for. But then I would be in the same boat.

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Bizkit 11/17/11 - 02:51 pm
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I agree Harley the internet

I agree Harley the internet if full of negative knowledge that is just plain wrong. Something like 83% of internet is dedicated to porn, and of the remaining only a third of that is accurate information. So little info is actually accurate and any half-wit pseudointellectual can get on their soap box and go to town-like on Wikipedia. Should be terrifying that our educators keep pushing more technology when we should be running from it. My generation developed the technology as a tool to do things quicker than a slide rule, but unfortuantely our youth lack the theory and knowledge and are just dependent on the technology. Further the Google effect where students know where to find info but don't bother to memorize or learn it. Throwing money and technology at education is producing less educated youth. Bizarre eh.

Vito45
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Vito45 11/17/11 - 03:12 pm
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Scooby, I always get a

Scooby, I always get a chuckle at how they pooh-pooh Fox, but will turn right around and give you a link to Slate or Huffington. They will slay the messenger without regard to the message.

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bjphysics 11/17/11 - 03:54 pm
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All the sources I have found

All the sources I have found give the same time and place of birth; Miami FL, May 28, 1971.

His religion is Roman Jewish Catholic Protestant and he attends services regularly.

Bio from VoteSmart:

http://www.votesmart.org/candidate/biography/1601

Carleton Duvall
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Carleton Duvall 11/17/11 - 03:54 pm
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VITO45, My friends use the

VITO45, My friends use the Huffington Post, the New York Times and the Smirking Chimp. Betcha never heard of the last one.

Vito45
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Vito45 11/17/11 - 03:59 pm
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Nope, never heard of it; but

Nope, never heard of it; but I can make an educated guess who they are denigrating with that name, and it ain't BHO.

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