Impeach president for nonfeasance

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I swear I must be living on a different planet than the Democrats.

Listening to President Obama's supporters and his recent speech refusing to accept any responsibility for our country's sad state of affairs enforces what I had said from the very beginning. Prior to becoming president, I warned that this man would lead our country down a path of destruction. Look at us now.

Further, Obama and his lackeys had the unmitigated gall to blame everything on the Tea Party that wanted a balanced budget. He stated that we are still the greatest country in the world - even though Standard and Poor's downgraded our credit rating from AAA to AA-plus, and he totally ignored the reason why.

Obama was warned that this would be considered if he didn't get his house in order, but he chose to ignore it. He and his cohorts went on to blame the Republicans and their refusal to raise the debt ceiling and to grant trillions of dollars more to our indebted country, so they too became a target. What ever happened to fiscal responsibility?

As an independent voter, I heard many reports stating that it will be up to us to see to it that a new president is elected. For my money, the old one should be impeached for nonfeasance of office, which according to my law dictionary is the total omission or failure of performance of some distinct duty or undertaking which he has agreed with his principal to do.

We as a people should demand a vote of no confidence against Obama, not giving him one more day to ruin this country.

Gregory J. Topliff

Warrenville, S.C.

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Haki
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Haki 08/13/11 - 01:11 am
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You probably are living on a

You probably are living on a different planet.

TrukinRanger
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TrukinRanger 08/13/11 - 02:02 am
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You're right- you ARE living
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You're right- you ARE living on a different planet. It's already been reported that S&P's downgrade was a mistake but since their wrong insider information was leaked to the public and caused stock markets around the world to fall- they had to go through with their crazy move.

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allhans 08/13/11 - 04:12 am
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Well said,

Well said, Mr.Topliff
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Haki..It does appear that Mr.Topliff might live on a different planet than most liberals. BTW, We call our planet "Planet Earth", drop by for a visit...

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Craig Spinks 08/13/11 - 04:43 am
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Mr. Topliff, My late

Mr. Topliff,

My late granddaddy always told me that "talk is cheap" and that "actions speak more loudly than words."

Get back with us ACES editorial-page readers on or about 10/1/11 to inform us as to how your impeachment plans are developing.

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billyjones1949 08/13/11 - 09:49 am
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Haki, I think the President

Haki, I think the President lives on a different planet. He and the rest of Congress have not owned up to the fact that you will never borrow yourself out of debt. Programs have to be cut, social security age limit raised, SSI payouts cut, disability payments, government programs to see if worms like grapes (sarcasam), military retirement pay starting at the same age as social security, huge retirement benifits to federal workers, and no free medical care to any person that is not a citizen of this country. It is harsh and the people that will complain the most will be the ones with their hand out.

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harley_52 08/13/11 - 10:22 am
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Good letter, Mr. Topliff. I

Good letter, Mr. Topliff. I agree with much of what you say, but I think your Impeachment idea has zero chance considering the current makeup of Congress. Whether he "should" be impeached is one thing, whether he "will" be impeached is another.

Your mention of the "Tea Party" attack is right on. I believe the entire "default crisis" was manufactured by the democrats for the sole purpose of making the Tea Party look bad. The whole scheme was hatched right after the 2010 elections when it became apparent the Tea Party was catching on. It never really mattered what Republicans proposed during the "crisis" democrats were going to denounce it as "extreme" and blame all the Republican "intransigence" on those wild eyed, racist, gun toting, bible reading Tea Party whackos. It was all scripted and it was all made for tv.

I still have to laugh when I hear the talking heads on TV asking one another why President Obama does all these things that seemingly exacerbate all the Country's economic woes. Why has he pursued these outrageous, previously unheard of spending policies driving us toward bankruptcy? Why has he demonized the business community and so increased red tape on small businesses they can't work their way through it?

Why has he tied the banking system in knots with red tape and regulations such that almost nobody can now qualify for a home loan? Why are his policies aimed at making unemployment worse, rather than trying to create a climate where jobs can be created?

Only if you believe his goals are to actually repair and strengthen our economy are those questions difficult to answer. If you have read the writings of Professors Cloward and Piven and you see the people he associates with and hires as his advisers do those questions become simple to answer. It all makes a lot of sense after all.

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copperhead 08/13/11 - 10:31 am
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Kinda like "Wag the Dog"l

Kinda like "Wag the Dog"l

Piperpig
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Piperpig 08/13/11 - 10:32 am
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Harley: are you saying that

Harley: are you saying that the banking and real estate industries were doing well prior to Obama? What has Obama changed with regard to those industries?

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Darby 08/13/11 - 10:53 am
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"I am absolutely certain that

"I am absolutely certain that generations from now, we will be able to look back and tell our children that this was the moment when we began to provide care for the sick and good jobs to the jobless; this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal; this was the moment when we ended a war and secured our nation and restored our image as the last, best hope on earth. This was the moment--this was the time--when we came together to remake this great nation so that it may always reflect our very best selves and our highest ideals."

B.H. Obama 2008

Focus on the first four words in this quote.... We need to stop looking for a messiah and start looking to the American people.... again.

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harley_52 08/13/11 - 11:10 am
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Piperpig, the banking and

Piperpig, the banking and real estate industries were in crisis as Obama took office. They were in a crisis that was manufactured by democrat invented and inspired programs to get "the poor" into homes so they could "enjoy the benefits of home ownership" regardless their financial ability to pay. They created the enabling legislation when Carter was President and they gave it a boost under Clinton. It was Clinton Administration officials who became the leadership of Fannie and Freddie where the scheme got its program really rolling by buying whatever loans the Federal Reserve could convince banks to make. With the pressure from the Federal Reserve and the Treasury department and free money at Fannie and Freddie the Real Estate "bubble" was created with the real intention of watching it POP to start the Country's manufactured downward spiral.

What Obama has changed is that he has enacted the so called Dodd-Frank "Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act" which, I'm told, so tie the hands of lending agencies that small businesses simply cannot get credit, or capital with which to run their businesses. Additionally, his agencies have implemented countless rules and regulations aimed directly at slowing down business activity and preventing the market from healing itself from the effects of all the bad mortgages.

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Granddaddy John 08/13/11 - 11:39 am
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Harley-Why do you waste your
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Harley-Why do you waste your time on the Liberal government sheep on here.

Jane18
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Jane18 08/13/11 - 11:40 am
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Not just nonfeasance, but,

Not just nonfeasance, but, I(me, myself, Jane 18) believe malfeasance also!!

harley_52
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harley_52 08/13/11 - 11:47 am
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Me too, Jane18, me too. It's

Me too, Jane18, me too.

It's important for people to pay far less attention to what President Obama says, and pay far more attention to what he does.

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Vito45 08/13/11 - 11:56 am
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That is true for EVERY career

That is true for EVERY career politician; they are greasy by nature.

harley_52
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harley_52 08/13/11 - 12:04 pm
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Obama is in a class by

Obama is in a class by himself, Vito45. Nobody does it better.

Vito45
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Vito45 08/13/11 - 12:22 pm
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His noted success at

His noted success at greasiness has been contributed to by a complicit press and blind party/racial loyalty. For pure greasiness I think Clinton was better; but he had the advantage of being smarter and more experienced. Harley, you didn't visit the forum when it was active; but I along with several others are gloating today at what we forecast would come with an Obama presidency. He was an empty suit then, and two plus years hasn't filled it out any. We would have been a lot better off with Hilary.(if we had to have a Democrat)

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harley_52 08/13/11 - 12:32 pm
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No, Vito I wasn't on this

No, Vito I wasn't on this forum when Obama was elected, but wasting my time on another. And I'm pretty sure your predictions about President Obama were about the same as mine.

I'll be the first to admit that Clinton was pretty "greasy," particularly about the Monicagate affair. But I think he at least could come up with a story, or an explanation about why he failed to keep his promises. With Obama, it's not even a charade. He makes high sounding, grand promises he never intends to even attempt to keep. He knows they're lies when he makes them and it doesn't even slow him down. All his rhetoric about civility and partisanship is so blatantly false it's actually sickening. All his words about openness in the legislative process and his feigned abhorrence of lobbyists and other political insiders were only intended to trick voters so naive they actually believed him.

Most importantly, however, is I think Clinton loved America and wanted her to succeed. In my opinion, you can't say the same about Obama and that's what makes him the "greasiest" of all.

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desertcat6 08/13/11 - 12:50 pm
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Best to have your vote count

Best to have your vote count in the next election. That's your recall mechanism. Sure the President can be removed from office by Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors. Impeachment requires the Senate to try the president and a two-thirds majority vote to convict. Good luck with the current Senate.

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harley_52 08/13/11 - 01:06 pm
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Duh!

Duh!

CorporalGripweed
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CorporalGripweed 08/13/11 - 01:52 pm
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Preach on Brother Gregory!

Preach on Brother Gregory!

desertcat6
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desertcat6 08/13/11 - 02:06 pm
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Pride still hurt Harley? Give

Pride still hurt Harley? Give it a rest and trust the force.

harley_52
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harley_52 08/13/11 - 02:14 pm
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Actually, I'm impressed with

Actually, I'm impressed with both your Constitutional knowledge and your graciousness in sharing it. I, for one, sorely needed a refresher on how the impeachment process works.

harley_52
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harley_52 08/13/11 - 02:49 pm
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***Republicans are

***Republicans are responsible for 18% of all filibusters recorded in the past 90 years.***

Gee, is that all? Who had the other 82%?

***He's only been in office 2 and a half years***

Gee, is that all? Seems like much longer. And how much has he run up the national debt in that short time? And how many have lost their jobs? Their homes? Their life savings?

No wonder people are so upset with him.

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desertcat6 08/13/11 - 03:10 pm
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Then you won't mind this

Then you won't mind this either. Nonfesance is usually used in Tort Law. US Criminal Code only covers malfesance and misfeasance involving appointed officials and employees of the US government and involvement with organized crime. Not what was being discussed, but then again the president was elected not appointed.

Perhaps the letter writer was thinking of this in terms of high crimes and misdemeanors.
A high crime is one which seeks the overthrow of the country, which gives aid or comfort to its enemies, or which injures the country to the profit of an individual or group. It also includes crimes which attempt to alter the outcome of elections. Unless the president's perceived mis, non or malfeasance meets these thresholds, with proof vice opinion, it will go no where.

Of course, someone could try to sue in civil court for nonfeasance. Doubt that would get anywhere either.

Rather than throw around legal terms and opinion based charges with no merit, I would rather just work to vote him out, regain control of the senate, increase the majority in the house and fix the damage.

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Willow Bailey 08/13/11 - 05:18 pm
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Darby posted: "Focus on the

Darby posted:
"Focus on the first four words in this quote.... We need to stop looking for a messiah and start looking to the American people.... again."

I disagree. We need to accept the Messiah that has already come, and begin with looking at Him, then ourselves and others. Before we can DO something, we must first BE something. How can we expect to hold Washington or even local politics to a higher value, if we don't first possess those values for ourselves?

Our problems are not all about the politicians, we have placed them in authority over us and turned a blind eye as long as we were not inconvenienced and things went to suit us for a very long time.

The problems we have stem from our own apathy and are also because Americans have voted their own pocketbooks for far too long.

Is their any candiate that can tell the truth of what it's going to take to turn this country around and still be elected?

We should all be praying that God will raise up a presidential candidate, congressmen/women, and Senators that will work together for the good of America and that Americans will start supporting what is needed.

FalseHopeLooseChange
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FalseHopeLooseChange 08/13/11 - 06:07 pm
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America -- someone needs to

America -- someone needs to to step forward and quell the stench of incompetency coming from all three branches of our government.

We pay $174,00 each (plus) for 535 House and Senate leaders, 213,900 (plus) each for the Supreme Court Justices, and over $600,000 (plus) a year for two members of the Executive Branch, and all we get is a lousy T-shirt that says "The Buck Stopped At George Bush"????

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Ushouldnthave 08/14/11 - 08:25 am
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Members of BOTH parties need

Members of BOTH parties need to have their eyes open to the lack of action. It appears that many of WE THE PEOPLE will fall right in line with the party regardless of the direction they take us.

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Bruno 08/14/11 - 10:09 am
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Sorry but it isn't an

Sorry but it isn't an impeachable offense. ... at least not on this planet.

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