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Our U.S. representative, Paul Broun Jr., got elected by promising smaller government and less business regulation -- but as soon as he and his fellow conservatives got elected, they rushed to put big government regulations on the personal freedom and privacy of women's bodies.

To them, government should stay out of pharmacies and food safety, but should govern my uterus? Businesses get a lot of special treatment these days, so I was thinking: If lawmakers and other politicians see my uterus and my body as a business, maybe they'll work to get the government out of the uterus-regulation business as they do for every other company, and work to deregulate it? I'm encouraging my gay friends to incorporate their bedrooms for the same reason.

When the government grows a uterus, it can have a choice about its desire to reproduce or not. Until then, it can stay out of my mine. It is a double standard that attacks women specifically.

Why hasn't legislation been introduced to make it illegal to prescribe Viagra and other erectile-dysfunction drugs to unmarried men? If abstinence is the only method of birth control that conservatives in Congress are promoting, they should not support sexual promiscuity among males -- unless of course, the only objective is to control the sexual habits of women while letting men impregnate at will.

Conservatives' philosophy is small government for the guys and big government for the gals -- and it is pure hypocrisy. Ladies, incorporate your uteri now and start lobbying for deregulation immediately.

Amanda Lang, Ph.D.

Augusta

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JesusSavesAtCitiBank
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JesusSavesAtCitiBank 05/10/11 - 11:25 pm
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Well stated! There is

Well stated!

There is nothing 'responsible' about having a baby you don't want and cant take care of and then turning it over to strangers and hoping for the best. Adoption isn't an alternative to abortion. Its an alternative to parenting. If the woman doesn't want to BE PREGNANT then braying about adoption is worthless.

I'm pro-choice and Pro-life. In my own personal situation, I would NEVER choose to get an abortion, however I recognize that my position in life and my circumstance is different from others, so I think its important to respect other people's choices. My choice is life, other people's choice are their own. Furthermore, for people who are pro-life, I'd like to see them put their money where their mouth is. If you're truly pro-life, then if a teenage pregnant mom asks if you're willing to adopt their baby, You better say yes. Because if you don't, you're a hypocrite to your beliefs. It takes ALOT of money and resources to raise a child properly which is why some women choose to abort. If you're pro-life and not willing to step up to the plate and show yourself as a true champion of life, then you're only giving lip service to a cause you really aren't willing to support when push comes to shove.

Insider Information
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Insider Information 05/10/11 - 11:18 pm
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My rights end where yours

My rights end where yours begin.

Similarly, a mother's rights end where her child's rights begin.

Government exists to protect those who can't protect themselves. Babies are the most vulnerable and in most need of our protection.

JesusSavesAtCitiBank
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JesusSavesAtCitiBank 05/10/11 - 11:53 pm
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I hate the idea of anyone

I hate the idea of anyone having an abortion, but I also hate the horrible things that are done to children because society looks the other way so much, and tries to pretend everything is perfect, if only we have this rule about abortion. The rule doesn't matter, and it isn't going to make anything perfect. People should just drop it and mind their own business on this subject. Think of it this way. Most of the mothers, or would-be mothers, end up having abortions because they are not financially ready to have children. Children who grow up in homes that do not have a father, or homes that have financially difficulties have numerous problems like drugs, alcohol, and a slew of other things. Plus, it is the woman's body and her decision, whether she has any life difficulties or not. This is no one's business but her own and unless a woman told you she had one you would never know.

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faithson 05/11/11 - 01:55 am
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This is a women's issue...

This is a women's issue... they are the nurturers... men should stay in the realm of what they 'know'. women and women's problems being completely outside of their 'jurisdiction'. Yes, all men.. clergy included.

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jsterett 05/11/11 - 10:23 am
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Maybe I'm a little bit slow

Maybe I'm a little bit slow but I don't exactly understand what Amanda's problem is. I know that you can regulate bowels with a laxative but how do you regulate someone's uterus? Is she worried about someone regulating what is going in or what is coming out??? I know Paul Broun isn't the smartest or best looking politician in Georgia but Amanda never did say what he has done to get her so upset. Oh well, maybe it's just that time of the month when her progesterone level drops and she gets a little irritable.

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carcraft 05/11/11 - 11:22 am
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I think Dr Lange's problem is

I think Dr Lange's problem is that she doesn't want federal funding for planned parent hood cut. She wants the government to subsidize the activities carried out in progressive pro death women's uteri (plural of uterus?) but doesn't want the people footing the bill to have any say in the matter.

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dani 05/11/11 - 12:03 pm
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Until humans are morally

Until humans are morally responsible enough to know that it is not good to take an innocent life, the life of a child whose only crime is that of being not wanted, then you will continue to see it in the courts.

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Sandy Untermyer 05/11/11 - 12:20 pm
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I am a male person. I am

I am a male person. I am tired of reading when men have to say about female health issues. Let's let the women decide. It's no business of ours. PS -- This includes male doctors. As Little Richard, from Macon GA, puts it so well, Shut up!

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OJP 05/11/11 - 12:25 pm
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Love it! particularly the

Love it! particularly the Viagra part. If the GOP is so concerned about abortion, it needs to criminalize sex outside of marriage. They should start by outlawing the sale if Viagra to unmarried males.

JesusSavesAtCitiBank
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JesusSavesAtCitiBank 05/11/11 - 01:02 pm
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The most ardent Pro-Lifers

The most ardent Pro-Lifers like to argue that a fetus has "the right to Life" thanks to the Constitution. If we were to make abortion completely illegal based on this fact, then we are ignoring a person's right to bodily autonomy-The right to not have their body used for someone else against their will. This would take away their right to liberty-To freedom-which is also in the Constitution. Once you strip away that right, you make rape legal-If a fetus can use the woman as it pleases, why can't a grown man? What gives a fetus more rights than a man? And what is to stop the government from being able to force people to donate organs? Don't sick people also have the right to life? Why should their life be compromised because people are unwilling to keep them alive? This would extend to both men and women. It would be ironic to force a woman to keep a potential human that can't survive on it's own without basically being a parasite-alive but be allowed to choose to kill other living people so she doesn't have to give up her body to them.

It's obvious a lot of pro lifers(Note that I said A LOT and not ALL) think this way:

"Don't abort!............. but letting them suffer once they are born is okay, they didn't get aborted, that's all that matters"

A significant number of abortions are done for women who felt financially incapable of having another kid.

In my opinion, having kids you can't afford is irresponsibility of the highest degree. Having an abortion, and waiting until you can afford kids before having them is the responsible option. I don't see many of you anti-choicers lining up to adopt any unwanted children....

You guys spew a lot of adoption talk - but none (or very very few) of you guys back up those pretty words with actions - which is why the adoption systems are so full of unwanted kids nowadays.

So what it basically comes down to is: the woman—her life, her livelihood, her health, her presence and support (physical, economical, emotional) in the live's of others, including her partner/spouse, her family, any other children she might have (and she probably does, because, statistically, most women who have abortions have at least one child already)—is not nearly as important as the life/existence of that fetus to these people.

It doesn't matter if a pregnancy will cost her life or livelihood. It doesn't matter if the physical health effects of a pregnancy will keep the woman out of work, put her at risk for losing her job, keep her from being able to take of herself, her other children, or her family.

At the end of the day, your views show you think a fetus as the most important "individual"; it's existence the most important thing to preserve.

And it's a point of view that is absolutely myopic. Not to mention misogynistic. And, on a grander scale, inhumane.

JesusSavesAtCitiBank
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JesusSavesAtCitiBank 05/11/11 - 01:05 pm
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To the lifers...If Roe V.

To the lifers...If Roe V. Wade were overturned right now how would you address the following issues:

1. Who is going to provide for these children? The pregnant women didn't want them in the first place, and forcing a woman to have a pregnancy she doesn't want does not suddenly make her into the bastion of motherhood. If she didn't want the pregnancy in the first place, there is no way to make her provide properly for the subsequent child.
2. You're going to bring up adoption next- there are currently 500,000 children in the incredibly stretched thin foster care system. Who is going to pay to provide for them? Until those half a million children find loving homes, you have no business suggesting taking resources away from already existing children.
3. What will you do to prevent the psychological and emotional damage done to children born to mothers who didn't want them in the first place?
4. How are you going to prevent the horrors of do-it-yourself and backalley abortions, which will occur?
5. What are you going to do about the increase in child abuse that is evident in countries where abortion is illegal?

Beside the fact that you simply can not force someone to be pregnant against her will, until you have sound answers for the above questions then safe and legal abortion is absolutely necessary.

Before I go I also have one bonus question for the lifers since most of here use religion as their excuse for being pro-life:

If God is all knowing, has everything planned: why would he have a woman get pregnant if he knows she would have an abortion? Either God's okay with abortion, or he's not all knowing.

JesusSavesAtCitiBank
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JesusSavesAtCitiBank 05/11/11 - 01:35 pm
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Dani, If you REALLY want to

Dani,

If you REALLY want to eliminate abortion as we know it, here's what I propose. First of all, not everyone is going to subscribe to your way of thinking and believing. "Abstinence only" education is not going to keep people from trying to fulfill their biological instincts. Try accepting the fact that while your way of viewing the world and human sexuality may work for you, it is not going to work for everyone else and then work from there. Once you've got to that point, let's get to the second part. While you may believe that sex outside of marriage is a sin, it is safe to say that very likely most of the people who are showing up at abortion clinics don't share that same view or it was overlooked when conception took place. To try to get people to see things as a sin order to stop another sin does not work, especially when it allows the issue to continue on while you are attempting to convince people to share your worldview. Also, get rid of the whole idea that by teaching safe sex practices you are enabling irresponsible and "sinful" behavior. Which is worse to you, someone having sex outside of marriage and not having a child or someone having sex outside of marriage and then having an abortion as a result?

By supporting no other options to avoid pregnancy other than not having sex, you are in fact contributing to the very travesty you are trying to stop. Stop and think about that for just a little while.

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faithson 05/11/11 - 01:50 pm
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The STATE has a right to

The STATE has a right to protect the 'people' from dimwitted irresponsible people. Any women, I repeat ANY women who gets pregnant for a second time with the STATE footing the bill; pre-natal, birth, food stamps, housing, day-care should be sterilized upon the birth of their 2nd child; PERIOD. These 'dimwitted irresponsible women' forfeit there privilege to bear more children. The same goes for the 'impregnator'. We must as a civilized people do something. A lot of the abortions done in the CSRA are 2nd and 3rd procedures. Wish someone with some political guts would address this issue head on.

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carcraft 05/11/11 - 03:27 pm
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Concur-Well the current

Concur-Well the current health care bill our dictator in chief passed turns the IRS into an insurance compliance agency, why not an abortion monitoring agency while were at it?

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Chillen 05/11/11 - 04:32 pm
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Amanda. I'm not going to say

Amanda. I'm not going to say whether I am pro or anti-abortion. I'm simply going to tell you why some people are anti-abortion.

They consider the baby inside you to be a life. They consider the removal of that baby to be murder.

For them, it has nothing to do with the fact that it is your body. It is an issue of you murdering someone or not murdering someone.

They are not trying to control your body, they are trying to save a human life and prevent "you" from commiting what they consider to be murder.

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dani 05/11/11 - 10:09 pm
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And it has nothing to do with

And it has nothing to do with how often you have sex or who you sex with. I just don't agree that being lazy or careless with your body is okay--- after all a doctor can fix it.

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Pu239 05/11/11 - 10:10 pm
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I'm pro-choice on the death
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I'm pro-choice on the death penalty for dirt bags that kill and rob 81 year old men...I'm pro-choice on whether or not I should be forced to take government mandated health insurance....I'm pro-choice on being able to contribute to SS or a fund of my choice....I’m pro-choice on if I should be a member of a union…I'm pro-choice on Amanda Lang being able to incorporate and deregulate her uterus if she so desires, I'm pro-choice on Abortion....yet I disagree with Amanda Lang as she implies that abortion is just another innocuous form of birth control.
Tell me Amanda; are you pro-choice on these issues as I am? Is an ethnographer truly enlightened or just a mouthpiece for the talking points of their chosen causes?

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Willow Bailey 05/11/11 - 10:56 pm
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Why not legalize killing

Why not legalize killing anyone in your family who is untimely, annoying, disappointing, inconvenient, or financially burdensome?

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belle 05/12/11 - 07:33 am
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Wow....still a touchy
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Wow....still a touchy subject. I hope you all note how this topic continues to get people motivated to become involved. That is why the issue will never be seriously taken on. It is used time and again as an attention getter and vote getter for BOTH political parties. Dems rally against abortion and vow to do something, then do nothing when elected. GOP promise to tighten control over the situation, then do nothing when elected. This is a problem that can only be solved at home. All young girls AND boys should be taught not only to respect themselves and their bodies but to have full respect and responsibility for any child they bring into this world. That's the only viable solution and undoubtedly the last possible solution as the adults don't even respect themselves.

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Crime Reports and Rewards TV 05/12/11 - 09:24 am
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If the Looney liberals want

If the Looney liberals want abortion let them pay for it. The only thing the tax payers are saying is "Stop sticking U.S. with the BILL for your form of birth control." If libs want to pay for it themselves no problem, the only thing our legislation does is get the TAXPAYER out of the BADIES BEING BUTCHERED Biz. They can pay for it all they want, but they want to stick U.S. with their bill, as usual.

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WW1949 05/12/11 - 09:25 am
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faithson, there is merit in

faithson, there is merit in what both you and RA say. I believe Hitler did it because he wanted to create a "Master Race", but you say sterization because the person who has child after child believes that the taxpayer should support her children and that she has the right to have as many as she wants. I think I go along with you because I do believe it is your right to have children but it is not my responsibility as a taxpayer to fund your right. Abortion is not the total answer but stopping the birth of unwanted children can be stopped via steralization on all those that think the system should support them.

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Willow Bailey 05/12/11 - 09:39 am
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Belle makes a great point

Belle makes a great point that any subject that it is an emotional public hot botton is used by both political sides to manipulate votes and financial support. True again, that it is taught in the home. Unfortunately, parents can't give away what they do not possess for themselves. Less than 1% of abortions are about rape or incest. Women/girls use abortion for birth control and it is wrong. It is also true, that more than abstinence must be taught. I understand that women don't want the government telling them what they can do with their bodies. The problem is there is another body at stake. It is an issue that will not go away nor be solved. The best we can do, is teach our own children about values, choices and consequences, both the immediate ones and the future ones.

Absolutely, no tax dollars should pay for this.

Yes, Conure, Sunday brunch, sounds perfect.

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JesusSavesAtCitiBank 05/12/11 - 12:35 pm
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Even if all of pro-lifers you

Even if all of pro-lifers you assume the fetus is a fully-fledged human being with all rights, abortion would still be the mother's right.

Imagine if a living human adult were somehow to attach itself to you such that if you removed it, they would die. You would still have the absolute right to have them removed from you because the right to control over your own body is absolute, even when another's life is at stake. This is why, for example, no civilized country requires a parent to donate a kidney even if it is required to save their child's life. The right to a person's own body integrity trumps other people's right to life in *every* civilized society in every context but abortion. The question for those who oppose abortion is why it should be different -- there is no good reason.

If you want there to be no more abortions then put your energies toward creating a world where women don't have to make that difficult choice. Create programs that provide day care, education, job training. Keep the jobs secure for when the woman needs to stay home with a sick kid. Give them an opportunity to be able to have an unplanned pregnancy AND make something of themselves. Make it a felony for anyone to desert a child without paying support.

The problem is that most people who want to ban abortion also want to ban welfare benefits.

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kristie29841 05/12/11 - 02:20 pm
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About 30 years ago when my

About 30 years ago when my (3) children were young. I was a stay at home mom and my husband worked for SC Dept of Hwys making minimum wage. We received food stamps at that time and lived in the projects in New Hope (Graniteville, SC) when they were new. The folks who had been living there a long time had a system that a majority use. They tried to 'teach' me how to manipulate the system. They frequently have more children just to increase their check and food stamp amount. One woman who lived behind me had 8 children (from 5 different fathers), lived in a big house, & had plenty of food and money since she had boyfriends that frequently gave her money for household expenses. I never saw her do drugs and her children were well kept and all good kids but it was common practice to have more children to increase your benefits. Another woman 'shared' her 4 children with a neighbor whenever the caseworker came to visit so she would appear to have 7 children and get paid for them. And we wonder why our programs fail. People that continually take advantage of the 'free ride'.

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lovingthesouth72 05/12/11 - 03:36 pm
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Amanda, unfortunately the

Amanda, unfortunately the moment you all requested that government pay for abortions and birth control pretty much gave them the say so in everything. You all brought this on yourselves, it is a self-inflicted wound. If you don't want government telling you what to do with your bodies, then don't expect them to pay for the consequences of what you do with your bodies. The simple solution to this: Remove Title X from government funding, therefor stop those hard earned dollars to fund the abortion industry.

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freeradical 05/12/11 - 06:26 pm
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"freedom" ? Really? And I

"freedom" ?

Really?

And I suppose "only the good die young" is applicable here as well?

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