Marijuana is an overwhelming detriment

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I must completely disagree with Shayne Felberg ("Oppression keeps marijuana illegal," March 3) and all those who want to push the legalization of marijuana upon us. But my disagreement carries little weight.

The Augusta Medical Examiner wrote about marijuana in its April 20, 2007, issue. Clinical exams and research concluded that marijuana impairs short-term memory; impairs attention, judgment and other cognitive functions; increases heart rate; can lead to addiction; and increases risk of chronic cough, bronchitis and emphysema. It also increases risk of cancer of the head, neck and lungs.

The Drug Abuse Warning Network that monitors the health impact of drugs estimated in 2002 that marijuana was a contributing factor in some 119,000 emergency calls. The National Institution of Justice's Arrestee Drug Abuse Monitoring Program found 41 percent of arrestees tested positive for marijuana.

The National Institute for Drug Abuse and the Epidemiology Work Group researchers consistently report that marijuana "frequently is combined with other drugs such as crack cocaine, PCP, formaldehyde and codeine cough syrup without the users being aware of it."

Also: "Research findings for long-term marijuana abuse indicate some changes in the brain similar to those seen after long-term use of other major drugs."

In addition to all of this, marijuana is illegal, and the law is trying to save you from doing stupid things!

Gil Ward

Evans

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soldout 03/15/11 - 09:46 pm
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Makes sense to me

Makes sense to me

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JesusSavesAtCitiBank 03/15/11 - 09:57 pm
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Mr. Ward you sir, have seen

Mr. Ward you sir, have seen "Reefer Madness" one too many times.

NOBODY, and I mean NOBODY, can debate against the fact that 'Marijuana' is SAFER than both Alcohol and Tobacco! Combined, those two kill over 500,000 each YEAR in the states alone. This doesn't even cover the deaths cause by drunks via violence or driving.

Cannabis on the other hand. Not ONE person has died in the history of mankind from ingesting pot. As Federal Judge Francis Young stated on record, "Marijuana in it's natural form is one of the most benign substances known to man." That's because the lethal dose of pot is 1,500 POUNDS consumed in 15 minutes. And not only is it less addictive that those other drugs, tobacco and alcohol, it ranks just below caffeine.

Of note, this countries leading Anti-Drug researcher, Donald Taskin, conducted the most thorough, 30 year study of it's kind on this "vegetable matter". His team studied heavy marijuana smokers to determine whether the use led to increased risk of lung cancer and chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, or COPD. He hypothesized that there would be a definitive link between cancer and marijuana smoking, but the results proved otherwise.

“What we found instead was no association and even a suggestion of some protective effect,” says Tashkin, whose research was the largest case-control study ever conducted.

The bottom line is, Cannabis is a SAFER alternative, so what is this failed 75 year prohibition doing besides flushing 40 BILLION a year down the drain? What is it protecting us from? The only result is an increase in crime and it's funding and a loss to our own economy.

"The prestige of government has undoubtedly been lowered considerably by the prohibition law. For nothing is more destructive of respect for the government and the law of the land than passing laws which cannot be enforced. It is an open secret that the dangerous increase of crime in this country is closely connected with this."
- Albert Einstein quote on Hemp

Alcohol prohibition was repealed because it was clear prohibition itself was causing more social problems than alcohol abuse ever had. The same is true of marijuana. The ban has incarcerated many people who posed no threat to society at all, and the drug wars on the border have claimed countless lives. Stop the incarceration, save the money spent on the incarcerated, generate tax revenue, quell the drug war. Legalize it.

And Soldout you think alcohol should be re-illegalized. Your opinion on this has no merit as your only reasoning for both(at least this is what I get from reading through your posts) is "my bible says so"...1st Amendment...separation of church and state...ring a bell any?

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JesusSavesAtCitiBank 03/15/11 - 10:10 pm
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This is why people are doing

This is why people are doing so many alternative drugs because of marijuana being criminalized. Every gas station in this town(that I've been in) now sells garbage like incense and bath salts. This kills people ( Two people as of late to be exact) and the only reason people are doing this garbage is because they would go to jail or lose their job for smoking a harmless plant. I don't get it. They have nothing on marijuana besides possibly developing schizophrenia.Which is not true because they only correlated their studies and they did no longitudinal studies at all, thus meaning that can't say it's a cause. Plus schizophrenia is the most misunderstood disorder and is also pretty rare. And please let them scrutinize the fact that it damages your lungs when the government sells the lung's nemesis which is called a cigarette. I'm sick of this bull, legalize it and give us a vaporizer and their would be nothing wrong with it.

Also might I add when schizophrenics use alcohol it makes their condition worse as well. There is no need to ban a substance based on what it will do to the minority of the people who use it.

If we are indeed "free" people then we are free to demand an immediate end to this ridiculous "prohibition"! To say nothing, to be uneducated is NOT the American way!!

Marijuana has repeatedly been proven to NOT cause cancer, heart disease, brain damage, liver disease, emphysema, or overdoses, and its addictive potential is about on par with coffee. The DEA is 100% misinformed when it calls marijuana "extremely harmful"!

The marijuana prohibition empowers drug dealers and the cartels, and makes our children LESS safe! Because of the failings of the prohibition, your children now have easier access to marijuana than to alcohol! You parents have been patient long enough, you must speak up and demand that marijuana be legally sold to adults in gas stations and supermarkets just as beer and wine are today!

We need laws based on logic, not ideology! We need to end Richard Nixon's failed marijuana prohibition and Legalize Adult Marijuana Sales!!

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faithson 03/15/11 - 11:13 pm
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Do any of you who are dead

Do any of you who are dead set against marijuana use realize how easy it is to purchase, any time, any place, any where ? It really only makes sense to get some control over the anarchy of pot sales because its not going away any time soon... and anyone who believes that just because it is illegal the young will not use... how is that 'abstinence' stuff workin out ? Not sayin' you shouldn't teach it, just look at the facts.. education is the answer on both these issues with the young.

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JesusSavesAtCitiBank 03/16/11 - 12:21 am
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Your kids can get an ounce of

Your kids can get an ounce of pot easier than they can get a 6 pack of beer....think about that....there is a reason for it. I'll see who can figure it out. Really it should be obvious and not need much explaining anyways.

Prohibition protects our children about as well as a tin foil hat does versus satellite feeds.

It is a superfluous attempt to topically treat an issue which should just be (forgive the term) “hashed out” in an honest conversation.

Think of it like this. You are a marijuana prohibitionist, despite your best efforts to keep things under wraps, one of your adolescent children begins smoking pot. If you did try to change the behavior, do you feel your child would trust you enough to deliver in steering them in the right direction?

Marijuana doesn’t make you go crazy, or kill people, or any of the other things that Reefer Madness, “Above the Rest” anti-drug campaigns, and other attempts to lie to the public through controlled media (or at best misinform them). So what exactly do you expect our youths to learn when you are founding their knowledge on lies, or at most benefit of doubt, half-truths?

This is what is causing the judgment problems of our children. Marijuana isn’t the gateway drug, your lies are. If you fail to see that, then you fail as a adult (or parent) and will likely never get the concept of honesty or what it is to be an adult.

Rick Steves said it best, there aren’t people just waiting for drugs to be legalized so they can go out and ruin their lives! Prohibition isn’t going to stop people choosing to use drugs. Those who use other drugs will do so regardless.

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usapatriot 03/16/11 - 12:26 am
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Mk Ultra Thursday, Mar. 3

Mk Ultra
Thursday, Mar. 3 7:06 PM
"Apparently you haven't read everything I've said...You get can get high or get drunk and be responsible about how you do it."

It's illegal. Any purchase and use of illegal drugs contributes to a wider range of organized criminal activity that pot heads refuse to acknowledge.

Save it. Heard it before. You get your dope from an old guy that grows his own. You only do it at home, after work, on the weekend. You stay home. yadda, yadda, yadda.

Too bad you drug lovers can't put half the energy into life that you do defending your illegal, selfish indulgence.

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usapatriot 03/16/11 - 12:27 am
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This bout of rationalization

This bout of rationalization is 2d only to pro-choice folks.

JesusSavesAtCitiBank
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JesusSavesAtCitiBank 03/16/11 - 01:07 am
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"It's illegal. Any purchase

"It's illegal. Any purchase and use of illegal drugs contributes to a wider range of organized criminal activity that pot heads refuse to acknowledge."

Because of the prohibition of it! The prohibition of alcohol FAILED for the exact reason.

The illegality of the drug makes it a cash cow for the black markets. If you were interested in saving lives, you would want to legalize it.

Lets be honest, even illegal it is
1. Not going anywhere/wont be removed from the country in any significant sense
2. Not doing any more damage than drinking
3. Eating up taxpayer money, along with police resources.
4. Adding Criminal records to thousands of non-violent regular citizens who, other than smoking pot, are just as productive in society as you.

"Apparently you haven't read everything I've said...You get can get high or get drunk and be responsible about how you do it."

You use my quote against me like it's a bad thing but I'm really quite right. You do realize that just about every argument used against marijuana users; can also be used against those who drink alcohol? Alcoholics are just as bad as pot heads; but EITHER ONE done in moderation is FINE. Not everyone who drinks is an alcoholic and not everyone who smokes pot is a pothead...

"Two of my favorite things are sitting on my front porch smoking a pipe of sweet hemp, and playing my Hohner harmonica."
- Abraham Lincoln

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Jon Lester 03/16/11 - 02:00 am
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Meanwhile, it remains

Meanwhile, it remains perfectly legal to yak on your cell phone while driving and listening to talk radio, on your way to and from your job that may or not be afforded by the exploitation of others, and to hit the package store for something to down while you're watching Fox News. I gotcha.

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Jackson 03/16/11 - 04:34 am
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I forgot what I was going to

I forgot what I was going to say I was laughing so hard at the screen name Jesus saves at citi bank!

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corgimom 03/16/11 - 05:25 am
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All of the pot smokers think

All of the pot smokers think "everyone's doing it". No, everyone isn't. Because a whole lot of us have the sense not to get into trouble over something so stupid.

But if people are foolish enough to get into lots of trouble so that they can smoke a plant, they can go right ahead.

But then don't whine about it.

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copperhead 03/16/11 - 06:14 am
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ALL drugs should be regulated

ALL drugs should be regulated by the government. If you need an aspirin,put in a request at you local town hall with the "drug czar" and in 8 to 10 working days,you will either be denied or granted your request. This is the only way to get this rampant drug problem under control. Anyone caught in violation would be shot immediately. Remember,it's for the children.

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Techfan 03/16/11 - 06:33 am
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First marijuana law in North

First marijuana law in North America; 1619, Jamestown, Virginia. All colonists are REQUIRED to grow hemp.

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dani 03/16/11 - 07:59 am
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Drug users need that crutch.

Drug users need that crutch. They can't survive without it. Some people are strong and don't need artificial means, but some folks are weak and need a little help.

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dani 03/16/11 - 08:16 am
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soldout
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soldout 03/16/11 - 09:12 am
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Jesussaves; prohibition on

Jesussaves; prohibition on alcohol worked very good. The Prohibition Amendment was not enforced by the Republicans or Democrats. Incredibly, supervision of this new law was entrusted to Andrew Mellon, a major distillery stockholder. Enforcement agents were deliberately underpaid to make them susceptible to bribery.
In spite of this deliberate policy of non-enforcement, Prohibition:
• Reduced the fatality rate from cirrhosis of the liver by more than 50 percent.
• Reduced the consumption of absolute alcohol by almost 70 percent.
• Closed down most alcoholic clinics and hospital wards for lack of business.
• Greatly reduced the crime rate and prison population.
• Increased bank deposits from $15.8 million in 1920 to $28.9 billion in 1924.
• Increased assets of savings and loan associations from 2.03 billion 1920 to 7.08 billion in 1929.
• Thomas Alva Edison, the great inventor, said in 1930, "I feel that Prohibition is the greatest experiment yet made to benefit man."
• President Charles W. Elliot of Harvard University vigorously opposed the adoption of Prohibition, but in 1922 he said: "Evidence has accumulated on every hand that Prohibition has promoted public health, public happiness and industrial efficiency. Prohibition is actually sapping the terrible forces of disease, poverty, crime, and vice."
Today, most people of the U.S.A. believe in prohibition. They favor prohibition of heroine, LSD, cocaine, marijuana, and other illegal, antisocial drugs which claim, at most, a few thousand lives yearly.
Because of the powerful liquor traffic and its allies in the news media, most do not support the Prohibition of beverage alcohol, simply because they do not know how well Prohibition worked from 1920 to 1933 in spite of poor enforcement.
Millions living today under local - option Prohibition testify that their communities have less crime,
drunkenness and other alcohol-related social problems than do "wet communities."
Efforts to deal with the results of the consumption of beverage alcohol such as a crackdown on drinking drivers and rehabilitation programs are needed. But none of these deal with the CAUSE of the problems.
If we ban drugs that claim relatively few lives, how much more needful is it to prohibit beverage alcohol which kills hundreds of thousands yearly?
Abraham Lincoln said, "Alcohol has many defenders but no defense."

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Jackson 03/16/11 - 09:41 am
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Sorry soldout. I agree with

Sorry soldout. I agree with you a lot but not on this post. Prohibition was not only a major flop but organized crime ran rampant. More people were killed by hoodlums than alcohol. Anyone who thinks prohibition was a good thing knows nothing about the history of the 18th amendment.

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reader54 03/16/11 - 09:59 am
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ICL:Abraham Lincoln said,

ICL:Abraham Lincoln said, "Alcohol has many defenders but no defense."
That's b/c he preferred weed. It would be foolish to honestly argue that weed is more harmful than alcohol or tobaccco. You can use or abuse any substance.

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faithson 03/16/11 - 10:12 am
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It is all about

It is all about 'self-control'... as are most spiritual dilemmas in ones life. Anyone who puts themselves above others will be irresponsible with more things in life than just drugs. The nub of the problem is 'moderation'... I am not aware of any personal human activity that is permanently damaging when done in moderation. I believe in the sovereignty of the individual. Of course young immature persons should not be allowed the same privileges as Adults.

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InChristLove 03/16/11 - 10:17 am
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Winslow wrote that others had

Winslow wrote that others had debunked the idea that Abe Lincoln smoked "sweet hemp" and that he couldn't have played a Hohner since they weren't imported until 1868, fours years AFTER Lincoln was already dead. This quote from the Huffington Post states ""Two of my favorite things are sitting on my front porch smoking a pipe of sweet hemp, and playing my Hohner harmonica." - Abraham Lincoln (from a letter written by Lincoln during his presidency to the head of the Hohner Harmonica Company in Germany). Hohner was making harmonicas as early as 1857, and could easily have supplied a harmonica to Lincoln as a gift during his presidency. As to the hemp, Lincoln may WELL have used it often. He was easily a depressive person, and historians note often of his gloominess. The hemp may have been an escape. After a breakup with his eventual wife Mary Todd, he wrote: "I am now the most miserable man living. If what I feel were equally distributed to the
whole human family, there would not be one cheerful face on the earth.
Whether I shall ever be better I can not tell; I awfully forebode I shall
not. To remain as I am is impossible; I must die or be better, it appears to me."

Now then, having said all that, Abe was not known to be a smoker. So whether he made an exception for hemp is a question. The original quote about his letter stated he wrote the letter in 1855, which could not be right because Hohner wasn't producing harmonicas then, and Abe wasn't President yet either. Hohner historians, the curator of the Hohner museum, state no letter from Lincoln was ever posted on the walls of the museum. So the two issues will probably remain myth, remain unresolved and lost in history.

http://harp-l.org/pipermail/harp-l/2009-February/msg00551.html

There is no proven fact that Abraham Lincoln smoked weed but you are correct, marijuana is no more harmful than alcohol and tobacco, but we have enough issues with alcohol alone why add another harmful substance to the equation. As for smoking, the health issues are enough but they do not alter the mind and mental capabilities of an individual. I've never known anyone to have a car accident and kill themselves or someone else because they smoked a cigarette.

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Dorion 03/16/11 - 10:55 am
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Citibank...they only want

Citibank...they only want government to regulate the things they agree with.

JesusSavesAtCitiBank
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JesusSavesAtCitiBank 03/16/11 - 11:00 am
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I get it. They want a

I get it. They want a "smaller government" but only if they agree with it. Which I guess is why they also have no problem allowing the government to tell them who they can and cannot marry.

Here are some points I've read from different posts here I want to clarify:

>>>"There are already enough people driving under the influence of some drug or alcohol."

Many people think marijuana consumption causes accidents like alcohol. It doesn't, for various reasons. Research has shown marijuana is not as intoxicating as alcohol. More importantly, while alcohol drinkers think they are better drivers and so drive faster and more aggressively, marijuana consumers are very aware of their altered consciousness and correctly judge when they are too impaired to drive - refraining from doing so. If they must, they correctly compensate for their altered state by driving slower and more cautiously. They simply don't put themselves or others in harm's way. This is why marijuana is NOT a significant cause of auto accidents.

Marijuana and Driving: A Review of the Scientific Evidence

http://norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=5450

>>>"Apparently, stoners wouldn't mind if their employees came to work stoned,"

No. Nobody has suggested employees be allowed to come to work under the influence of marijuana, just like no one thinks it's a good idea for them to come to work after drinking Budweiser. That's called a straw-man argument.

>>>"How would people get it into their systems--smoke it? But smoking certainly is not good for a person's health."

You would think it would be very harmful if you hadn't studied the issue. However, while SMOKED marijuana does contain some of the same toxins as cigarettes or any other kind of smoke, consuming marijuana does NOT cause cancer. For two main reasons.

One, marijuana consumers inhale a tiny fraction of the smoke that cigarette smokers do. People standing on a busy street corner inhale more toxic smoke than the two or three puffs of marijuana. Second, researchers have found marijuana has anti-cancer and anti-inflammatory properties.

The preemminent researcher of marijuana and lung disease, UCLA's Dr. Donald Tashkin, conducted investigations over 30 years, initially believing there must be a causal relationship. But he finally concluded that smoking marijuana does NOT cause cancer or ANY other serious disease.

Additionally, even the minor lung irritation that heavy consumption can cause can be easily avoided by eating, drinking or vaporizing marijuana. No smoke - no harm - at all.

>>>"Here is a quote from abovetheinfluence.com(a website some of you apparently get your "facts" from) "All forms of marijuana are mind-altering (psychoactive). In other words, they change how the brain works."

Right. As Obama said, "That's the point." Millions enjoy that change and find it helpful in one way or another:

http://marijuana-uses.com/read/

>>>"Marijuana is addictive"

Simply a lie. Every major government commission on marijuana has found it is less "addictive" than coffee, which is to say, not. They also found marijuana is FAR less harmful than alcohol. The reports of all these major commissions can be read here:

http://www.druglibrary.org/SCHAFFER/Library/studies/studies.

Marijuana prohibition was a monstrous fraud from its beginning in 1937. It has not accomplished even ONE positive thing. It has only caused vast amounts of crime, violence, corruption, death, and the severe diminishment of everyone's freedom.

It's time to start making sense. End the counter-productive fraud of marijuana prohibition!

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JesusSavesAtCitiBank 03/16/11 - 11:03 am
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The Declaration of

The Declaration of Independence and the first drafts of a Constitution were written on HEMP PAPER.

William Randolph Hearst, the paper baron, pushed hard for marijuana to be criminalized because the invention and perfection of a machine (the decorticator) made hemp paper cheaper to produce than wood pulp paper. As Hearst was in the newspaper business, and owned thousands and thousands of acres of pulpwood, this possibility of cheap hemp production directly affected his interests, and because of this, as well as his intense racism towards Mexicans, whom he had problems with on a ranch he owned in Chihuahua (and were known to use marijuana) he pressured our government into making it illegal to possess or sell without a license. Andrew Mellon, Secretary of the Treasury at the time, was heavily invested in the Du Pont Family, which was also seeing losses in their own textile production (synthetics) due to cheapness and robustness of hemp fibers as compared to the synthetics of the time...

So yeah, marijuana is illegal today because it conflicted with the business interests of a few extremely wealthy people...

Remember this story, kids, next time you hear someone talking about how great Big Business is and how the free market benefits us all...

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justthefacts 03/16/11 - 11:53 am
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The Declaration Of

The Declaration Of Independence is not written on hemp. Dorian, is right. If you want the laws changed, vote for people who agree with you. If enough people do so, you will get your wish. If not, well, too bad.

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soldout 03/16/11 - 12:02 pm
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Jackson I got my info from

Jackson I got my info from USA Today and it shows all crime down during prohibition. Maybe most like me got their info from watching the "untouchables" on TV. The data on dry counties vs wet has been evident for years when Columbia county was dry and Richmond wet. In fact if being wet is such a good thing and a money maker Richmond should have had more money than they could use and Columbia county should have been in total poverty. There is another principle at work here. I believe anyone who needs a drug to alter their mind is bascially saying they are smarter than God. God didn't make your mind quite good enough so you need to boost it up in order to enjoy life. I just don't believe that God fails so that makes me against all mind altering drugs including anti-depressants which, in every test I've seen, lose to exercise for fighting depression. If you need a mind boost I highly recommend the spirit-filled Christian life. If someone tries it and doesn't like it satan will always take you back on his team.

JesusSavesAtCitiBank
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JesusSavesAtCitiBank 03/16/11 - 12:14 pm
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It really is time to put an

It really is time to put an end to this nonsensical racist law.

As marijuana prohibition came about in the South because the black jazz musicians were using it to seduce white women - a non-issue today, but highly unacceptable in the '20's and '30's, here in the West the issue was the large number of Mexican immigrants that came up here for work. By the early '20's, jobs were drying up, and the general consensus was that the Mexicans were a surplus of manpower that needed to go, to ensure that the whites would get the few jobs that were available.

After a day of work, the Mexicans would smoke their "loco weed" to relax and feel good. So, in hopes to make life uncomfortable for them, a decision was made to make the loco weed that they enjoyed illegal, which would (in theory) cause them to pick up and move somewhere else where it wasn't banned, preferably back to Mexico. And in Washington, that happened in 1923. It happened in Oregon the same year, as it also did in Nevada. Wyoming was first, banning it in 1915.

And then, we all know the story of Hearst (who owns the other major Seattle mewspaper that's now online-only), DuPont, Mellon, et.al). Big money behind banning marijuana. Mellon had Anslinger appointed to head the FBN (precurser to the DEA), and was tasked with coming up with whatever vehicle that he could to make marijuana a federal crime.

All these people are long dead and buried. It's the 21st Century now, and it's time to bury marijuana prohibition, borne of racism and green, alongside of them, once and for all.

When people are buying pot at the local liquor store or grocery store they no longer have the necessity of dealing with drug merchants. Since most drug use involves either pot or alcohol, losing the pot market will badly wound the bottom lines of narco gangs (and if you couple this with legalizing prostitution then you really put the screws to them) and cannabis becomes a revenue generator for the state rather than a revenue drainer.

Look at it this way conservatives:

Less need for constitution violating DEA agents and their rich pensions and salaries and law enforcement on the local level gets to concentrate its time on catching rapists and solving burglaries rather than going after pot users who, as an earlier commenter said, just want to toke while scarfing down bags of Doritos and laughing at dumb You Tube videos.

If one looks at history, it is evident that man has always wanted to get high. Those that continue to fight that impulse rather than judiciously manage it are wasting everybody's time and taxpayer money.

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follower 03/16/11 - 12:14 pm
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Citibank said, "Because of

Citibank said, "Because of the prohibition of it! The prohibition of alcohol FAILED for the exact reason."

That's convoluted thinking at it's best. By that reasoning, the way to get rid of speeding tickets is remove the speed limit. Afterall, many cars can easily travel over 100mph, and if I'm not harming anyone else, why not?

For every study that supports or minimizes the harm from MJ, there is a study to contradict it. The point is, it's illegal. And if you don't like the law, work with the legislature to overturn it. Until then, you are breaking the law. Why waste time arguing here about it, write your congressman or senator. Protest in the streets. Buy advertisement to support your cause. At least that might get you somewhere. Posting here will not.

Your opinion holds no more sway than mine. You believe it's fine. I believe it's a waste of mind. And neither opinion changes the law. As of now, smoking weed makes you a criminal. And if you get caught, you'll pay the price; less employment opportunities, less money, arrest, fines, and possible jail time. It's not worth the risk to relax in that way.

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follower 03/16/11 - 12:18 pm
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My post wasn't up while the

My post wasn't up while the last post before mine went live.

Citi, now racism is entered into the game? Come on. Although I disagree with your reasoning, at least your argument was lucid and well written. The racism claim threatens your credibility.

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JesusSavesAtCitiBank 03/16/11 - 12:19 pm
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People like you are the

People like you are the reason we had prohibition (the streets will be filled with drunken idiots unless we ban alcohol), which made the Mafia a national force and even enabled it to run a couple of major American cities (NYC and Chicago) and a whole country (Cuba).

Of course you also realize that kids have no problem getting any drug they want as things stand now, right? Except for alcohol and tobacco since those are legal and regulated. Our current drug control regime is a multi-billion dollar game of wack-a-mole and the illegality of pot has only made it seem cooler because, let's face it, clueless adults who often end up in politics use hysteria as their first resort in addressing any issue and since kids know that pot is not harmful they laugh, and rightfully so, at any adult who tries to position pot as a menace.

By managing drug use rather than attempting to use fascist tactics (such as asset forfeiture) to interdict it, you make it BORING. And by making it boring and not using it as a point of adult hysteria you take the forbidden fruit aspect out of it and the so-called responsible parties in our society (politicians, cops, teachers, etc) don't look like idiots since they would no longer be obligated to flog the hysterical rhetoric the local school board and other grandstanding idiots in our system want propagated.

Look at Portugal: drug use is DOWN after legalization.

And the only problem with Holland's tolerance of controlled use (it is still technically illegal there) is that it inspired marijuana tourism, which the local babbits are embarrassed about. If the countries those pot tourists were coming from made it legal then Holland would have no reason to be embarrassed since those tourists would stay home (and spend their money at home rather than contributing to the Dutch economy and its local treasuries).

Retired police chief to beat officer: "when was the last time you had to fight a drunk guy?"

Beatcop: "About five minutes ago."

Retired police chief: When was the last time you've had to fight someone high on pot?

Beatcop: *crickets*

(From an article by said former police chief in Huffington Post).

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stairway2nowhere 03/16/11 - 12:24 pm
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yeah and there are millions

yeah and there are millions of people that cant go without their pain meds and their xanax.......their are even more millions of kids that cant seem to function without ridalin and your point was

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