Will good care remain under Obamacare?

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In the darkness surrounding the recent Tucson shooting, the one bright light is the recovery of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords.

Recently, her status was upgraded to good. Thanks to the efforts of first responders, expert emergency-room physicians and top-notch neurosurgeons, this lady -- in less than a month after having a 9 mm bullet go completely through her brain -- is moving to rehab.

The question few people are asking is: Under the government takeover of health care, will physicians like those who have cared for Ms. Giffords be available five, 10 or 20 years from now?

With the heavy hand of Big Brother looking over their shoulder dictating the kind of care they can provide and the tedious minefield that is the medical legal abyss, will we be able to attract the best and the brightest into the health-care professions? Will those such as Arizona neurosurgeon Dr. Michael Lemole be willing to invest eight years of higher education and four to six years of indentured servitude called "residency," then enter practice with a mountain of student loan debt into this future environment?

To get the correct answer, ask your physician or health-care provider if they are encouraging their children and/or grandchildren to pursue careers in the health care profession.

In a world where even the best physicians -- those who literally hold your heart or your brain in their hands -- do not make in a career what Alex Rodriguez or Lebron James make in a year, do we really want to ignore the unintended consequences of Obamacare?

Bill Goss

Appling

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usapatriot 02/05/11 - 12:17 am
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There will always be doctors

There will always be doctors needed to treat the elitists. it. After all, John & Teresa Heinz Kerry, Al Gore, the Kennedy's, Jeff Immelt, Oprah et. al. will always have the best their money can buy. They aren't going to be a part of a government system.

Remember, it's the "do as I say, not as I do" bunch that's pushing this on America.

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old49er 02/05/11 - 02:19 am
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Obamacare, if not repealed,

Obamacare, if not repealed, is also going to stifle medical research and the development of new medical technologies and treatments. Imagine some medical professional that has an idea for a new method of treatment having to get the approval of a bunch of bureaucrats before research can begin.

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carcraft 02/05/11 - 06:51 am
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I will give a quick example

I will give a quick example of how innovation will be stiffled. I worked at the VA Medical Center when the first internal cardiac defibrillator was placed here in Augusta. It was an open heart proceedure requiring the surgeon to sew the leads in place on the heart. Today it is done with the same technique as a pace maker-trans venous. It took about 4 years to go from sewing patches to trans-venous. The first defibs were obviously expensive. The government run system out of necessity will not be able to afford the innovation because it is BROKE (no money)! Myfather-The classic example of the rich and what taxes do is John (I served in Vietnam) Kerry. Had a yatch built-in New Zealand to avoid taxes. Then anchored it in another state to avoid taxes-all legal but very hypocritical! Great letter and responses!

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seenitB4 02/05/11 - 09:56 am
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If Obama care makes joint

If Obama care makes joint replacement surgery an elective option...you will see a lot of ticked-off seniors-----& they will kick some behinds out of office....have you ever been around a older in pain senior...:) .....they can get mean.

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soldout 02/05/11 - 11:45 am
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NAET, EFT and other energy

NAET, EFT and other energy methods of treating disease will ease demand for doctors a lot but you will still need some surgeons but overall those alternative methods will help a lot. Regular medicine and hospital visits are creating a huge number of accidental deaths and efforts to reduce that have been ineffective so far. Always have a friend with you 24/7 during a hospital stay to reduce risk and learn to muscle test any drug placed in your body in order to avoid negative reaction. You can also re-program your subconscious mind to think health instead of sickness as it pretty much runs your body. Your regular mind is like a small computer but your subconscious is like a tape recorder playing back all the past influence much of which makes you healthy or sick.

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rmwhitley 02/05/11 - 12:30 pm
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Fortunately, I see 4 doctors.
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Fortunately, I see 4 doctors. Unfortunately, because of obamacare, they no longer take new medicare or medicaid patients. I'm a peon, but my wife travels in some rather elite company. If doctors are refusing them, what of the average hard working people? Illegal aliens will still flock to emergency rooms with stubbed toes and hard working AMERICAN's will still pick up the more expensive tab. Thank you obama and your liberal democrat cronies!

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Name Not Important 02/05/11 - 02:02 pm
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Health Facts (not

Health Facts (not fiction)

Universal health care is implemented in all industrialized countries with the exception of the U.S. It is also provided in many developing countries. If you stop reading here you are ducking your responsibility.

Just to set the stage, here is a list of countries with National Health Insurance.
Australia, Austria, Belgium, Canada, Cuba, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Japan, The Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Seychelles, South Africa, Spain, Sweden, Taiwan, U.K. Other countries with some form of universal health care:
Argentina, Brazil, Colombia, Mexico, China, Hong Kong, India, Israel, Singapore, Ireland, Scotland, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan*, Chile, Costa Rica, Cyprus, Greece, Iraq*, Iceland, Israel, Italy, Luxembourg, Oman, Peru, Trinidad, , Thailand Tobago, Portugal, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Spain, South Korea, Sri Lanka, Ukraine, and Wales.

*Universal health coverage provided by United States war funding

World wide, the U.S. ranks:

1st in overall health care expenditure and
2nd in total health expenditure as % of GDP but
37TH in the WHO ranking of the world’s health system performance
72nd in overall level of health!
44th of 224 countries in Infant mortality (ranked from good to bad)
121st of 223 countries in overall death rate (ranked from good to bad)
50th of 224 countries in life expectancy (ranked from good to bad)

Those who say that the U.S. has the best health care system in the world are wrong. If they are not ignorant then they are liars. In either case the rest of what they have to say cannot be taken seriously.

Lets look at where Mississippi ranks in the U.S. (United Health Foundation)

Ranking: Mississippi is 49th (2008); it was 50th in 2007.
Birth Weight of less than 2,500 grams 50th
Cardiovascular Death Rates 50th
Lack of Health Insurance Adults age 18 to 64 50th
Prevalence of smoking 44th
Prevalence of Obesity 50th
High school graduation 46th
Occupational Fatalities 46th
Children in Poverty 50th
Infectious Disease 35th
Air Pollution 28th
Lack of Health Insurance 46th
Public Health Funding 31st
Immunization Coverage 34th
Adequacy of Prenatal Care 38th
Primary Care Physicians 48th
Infant Mortality 49th
Cancer Deaths 46th

If Mississippi is at the bottom in national health care, and the country is so far behind other developed nations, then Mississippi is a third world country in health care. Who is responsible for this dismal showing? How did we get here? Is it our health care system? It’s certainly not our health providers; so what about our lawmakers or the insurance industry? In fact, all you have to do to find the ultimate culprits is look in the mirror. After all, we voted for the politicians who are doing nothing about the above shameful situation. It’s seems obvious we have people in office who like our health care system and the insurance industry just the way it is. Folks, something has to change. If we are 1st in overall health care expenditure, and 2nd in total health expenditure as % of GDP, but 37TH in the WHO ranking of the world’s health systems performance, then there seems to be an excessive amount of inefficiency in our system. Maybe it needs an overhaul. Or maybe there is too much profit, in the place of performance.

Don’t talk about cost. If 55 other countries, including some underdeveloped ones, can provide some form of universal health care for their citizens it’s a disgrace and shameful that the United States doesn’t. We already know some inefficiency is in our private insurance system, eg. profits. We need a single payer system and "everyone" needs to support it. It's essentially barbaric to have a "for profit" system where only those with money get care. I don't know about you, but I hate to think my health depends on someone's stock dividend.

Sources include the CIA Fact Book, the World Health Organization, and the United Health Foundation.

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dani 02/05/11 - 03:34 pm
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Oh for goodness sakes. Some

Oh for goodness sakes. Some people just can't seem to help themselves. There is not a coutry in the world that the people wouldn't like to have our health options.

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JesusIsComing 02/05/11 - 04:18 pm
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Name Not Important, When you

Name Not Important, When you gather statistics lookk at the source and the motive behind the reporting. If you seriously believe that all those countries' health care is better than the US - wow! In the future - after you download your statistics - take a moment to use common sense and see if those statistics can actually be true. America has the best health care in the world for ALL its citizens and even illegal aliens. The only ones getting less than adequate care are those forced to get their health care at the VA.

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usapatriot 02/05/11 - 04:41 pm
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Name Not Important, since

Name Not Important, since you're new, I'll let you in on something. A few of us do research as well.

Here is the current state of the liberal hero govt health care program
in Britain.

Please note, that as a good conservative, I use liberal sources for information.

The NY Times, 24 Jul 2010

"LONDON — Perhaps the only consistent thing about Britain’s socialized health care system is that it is in a perpetual state of flux, its structure constantly changing as governments search for the elusive formula that will deliver the best care for the cheapest price while costs and demand escalate."

>>my oh my. listening to Obama, it's suppose to be so simple. Britain has been struggling with this since 1948 and can't get it right.

"...details of the plan are still sketchy. But its aim is clear: to shift control of England’s $160 billion annual health budget from a centralized bureaucracy to doctors at the local level."

>>Why, who ever thought that LOCAL level folks could manage something better than a centralized govt bureacracy?

"The plan would also shrink the bureaucratic apparatus, in keeping with the government’s goal to effect $30 billion in “efficiency savings” ...and to reduce administrative costs by 45 percent. Tens of thousands of jobs would be lost because layers of bureaucracy would be abolished."

>>Obamacare provides for 150 regulatory, oversight and other bureacracies, boards and agencies.

"Many critics say that the plans are far too ambitious, particularly in the short period of time allotted, and they doubt that general practitioners are the right people to decide how the health care budget should be spent. Currently, the 150 primary care trusts make most of those decisions."

>>Why of course! These 150 bureaucratic govt groups are much more in tune with what patients need rather than doctors and patients. What have we been thinking all this time?

“One of the great attractions of this is that it will be able to focus on what local people need,” said Prof. Steve Field, chairman of the Royal College of General Practitioners, which represents about 40,000 of the 50,000 general practitioners in the country. “This is about clinicians taking responsibility for making these decisions.”

"Dr. Richard Vautrey, deputy chairman of the general practitioner committee at the British Medical Association, said general practitioners had long felt there were “far too many bureaucratic hurdles to leap” in the system, impeding communication. “In many places, the communication between G.P.’s and consultants ( govt decision makers)in hospitals has become fragmented and distant,” he said."

>>What we do here between patient and doctor is done there between doctor and govt bureaucrat.

"Dr Vaughtrey continued, "It is a sign of the mixed messages that government sends out. They talk about choice and competition and increased patient expectations at the same time as they tell the service they need to cut costs and refer less and prescribe less."

>>Does that sound familiar? Obama says he will add 30 million uninsured people to health care and save $170 billion over 10 yrs. Haha

“The real mistake that is being made by the health secretary is to drive through an ideologically determined program of reorganization which is motivated by the principle of efficiency savings,” said Robin Durie, a senior lecturer in politics at the University of Exeter. “History shows clearly that quality will suffer as a consequence.”

>>What's history to liberals?

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/25/world/europe/25britain.html?pagewanted...

Britain, folks, is a model for govt health care. Is our system perfect? No. But don't be fooled into thinking that Briain's is better.

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rmwhitley 02/05/11 - 04:57 pm
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Leftists scream for fairness,
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Leftists scream for fairness, healthcare, free food, housing, busing et al. It's worked well in North Korea, China, Venezuala, Cuba, Egypt, Iraq, Iran, Sudan, Somalia, India, Vietnam, Laos, Malaysia, Yemen, Libya, Mexico, Guatemala, Greece, Spain, Ireland, Portugal, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Russia, Ethiopia, Kenya, Syria, Lebanon, you get the picture. Capitalism is responsible for all of the advances in medicine, having homes, money, televisions, radio, arts and sciences. How many refugees are leaving the shores of good ole America for the above mentioned bastions of freedom and fortune? Liberals, even the tainted cool-aid you're drinking had it's basis in FREEDOM.

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Name Not Important 02/05/11 - 05:59 pm
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Over 40,000 Americans die

Over 40,000 Americans die every year simply because they do not have access to affordable healthcare. Why are Republicans so eager to keep this number as high as possible? What do they have against Americans that they are desperately voting for them to die en masse?

Every single 1st world, powerful, democratic country that has some form of universal health care is ahead of the United States in overall health care rankings. Even some 3rd world countries with the system, such as Saudi Arabia, are ranked ahead of the US

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Name Not Important 02/05/11 - 06:06 pm
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@ JesusIsComing You are WAY

@ JesusIsComing

You are WAY too in love with your country as I can see by the fact that you continue to believe that we are...lmao...NUMBER 1 in health care! That's a farce!

The top five countries for health care are (in order) France, Italy, San Marino, Andorra, and Malta. The United States is a distant 37th, despite the fact that it spends more than any other country (save one) on health care.

http://downtowngourmetabq.com/2010/11/top-countries-for-health-care/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/07/2010-quality-of-life-inde_n_413...
http://internationalliving.com/2010/02/quality-of-life-2010/

Sorry to disappoint all you as I love my country as well but we are not number 1...sorry.

usapatriot
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usapatriot 02/05/11 - 06:06 pm
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It seems to me that the

It seems to me that the liberal elite are embarrassed at the standard of living in USA vs the rest of the world. With things like Obamacare, cap and trade and stifling oil and coal that they are trying to bring USA down to the rest of the world's level.

No more American Exceptionalism. That's a taboo statement now. Witness Obama bowing and apologizing for America.

Those elitists, however, will not stand in line for healthcare. Jim Clyburn doesn't think they should stand in line for airport security.

They won't give up their private jets, multiple homes, armed guards or SUV's. That's for "us little people" to have to give up.

usapatriot
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usapatriot 02/05/11 - 06:10 pm
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According to AMA’s National

According to AMA’s National Health Insurance Report Card, Medicare denies 6.85 percent of its claims, higher than any private insurer (Aetna was second, denying 6.80 percent of its claims), and more than double any private insurer’s average.

http://blog.heritage.org/2009/10/06/medicare-largest-denier-of-health-ca...

The govt is the biggest denier of health care claims now. Just wait if we have Obamacare.

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usapatriot 02/05/11 - 06:30 pm
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Malta, pop 380,000 "In

Malta, pop 380,000

"In recent years, Malta has advertised itself as a medical tourism destination, and a number of health tourism providers are developing the industry. Malta is popular with British medical tourists.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malta

Medical tourism. Great reason to be good.

Andorra, pop 83,000

"Residents ... able to choose their place of treatment from the best of the Andorran, French or Spanish hospitals serving the country. A private room in any of the hospitals costs as little as 150 Euros per day. "

Comparing USA 300+ million with a country of 83,000?

http://www.expatfocus.com/expatriate-andorra-healthcare-medical

San Marino, pop 30,000. Enough said.

France:

In 2005, France spent 11.2% of GDP on health care

"To fund universal health care in France, workers are required to pay about 21 percent of their income into the national health care system. Employers pick up a little more than half of that. (French employers say these high taxes constrain their ability to hire more people.)"

"Last year, the national health system ran nearly $9 billion in debt."

"The French don't consider their system socialized. In fact, they detest socialized medicine. For the French, that's the British, that's the Canadians. It's not the French system."

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=92419273

But Obamacare is not the French system either.

usapatriot
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usapatriot 02/05/11 - 06:40 pm
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What you're not taking into

What you're not taking into account in these rating systems is the people, their lifestyles.

I believe we have the best doctors, hospitals, nurses, med schools, pharma researchers, pharmacists, med research, med equipment and equipment manufacturers in the world.

But you can't save each and every citizen from themselves; their eating habits, drug abuse and sedentary lifestyle.

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Name Not Important 02/05/11 - 06:43 pm
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It's one thing to love your

It's one thing to love your country guys...it's quite another to be so in love with it to the point that you can't handle the facts. And the facts are that the USA isn't number 1 in health care(and remember Obamacare HAS NOT gone into effect yet) and not only are we not number 1 but we aren't even in the top 10....

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rmwhitley 02/05/11 - 08:00 pm
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Who ever said America is
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Who ever said America is supposed to be no. 1 in health care. Those who are disappointed have the absolute freedom to move to the no.1 of their choice.

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dani 02/05/11 - 08:47 pm
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What do you expect from the

What do you expect from the follow the leader liberal base...after all ....this is a "mean" country.

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chascush 02/05/11 - 09:19 pm
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usapat, ‘I believe we have

usapat, ‘I believe we have the best doctors, hospitals, nurses, med schools, pharma researchers, pharmacists, med research, med equipment and equipment manufacturers in the world.’
Why do most people from foreign countries come too the US when seeking health care outside their country?
The libs can’t explain that.

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chascush 02/05/11 - 09:22 pm
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Name not Important, I will

Name not Important, I will start taking your posts seriously when you stop getting your information the Huffington Post.

chascush
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chascush 02/05/11 - 09:22 pm
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double post

double post

chascush
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chascush 02/05/11 - 09:27 pm
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Name not Important, 'And the

Name not Important, 'And the facts are that the USA isn't number 1 in health care(and remember Obamacare HAS NOT gone into effect yet) and not only are we not number 1 but we aren't even in the top 10....’
The main reason we are not #1 is the entitlement programs. It is hard to be #1 when you have about 1/3 getting ‘free health care’ paid for by the taxpayers.

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noils 02/05/11 - 09:37 pm
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My healthcare provider is the

My healthcare provider is the VA even though I can afford private care. The VA is socialized medicine pure and simple. I prefer it because you get superior results for less cost per patient.

http://www.va.gov/budget/docs/report/FY2010-VAPAR_Covers.pdf

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chascush 02/05/11 - 10:32 pm
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noils, ‘My healthcare

noils, ‘My healthcare provider is the VA even though I can afford private care. The VA is socialized medicine pure and simple.’
The VA is NOT socialized medicine it is payment too people that HAVE SERVED OUR COUNTRY. I assume you have served our country and I thank-you.
Don’t confuse service to our country to the deadbeats that want someone else to pay their way.

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usapatriot 02/05/11 - 10:35 pm
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3 of the top 5 (Malta,

3 of the top 5 (Malta, Andorra, San Marino) that no name listed have less than a combined population of 500,000. No military. no state dept. no EPA. No Dep of Ag. No trans dept. etc, etc.

can't compete with that.

I'll bet tho, that someone will kick there @$# b4 ours.

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usapatriot 02/05/11 - 10:36 pm
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noils, if you aren't a

noils, if you aren't a disabled vet, how long do you wait for appts? if not long, why is that?

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usapatriot 02/05/11 - 10:40 pm
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name not important, you cited

name not important, you cited "World Health Organization". No credible poster here believes anything the UN puts out about USA.

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carcraft 02/06/11 - 08:31 am
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nois-saterday 8:37 post- You

nois-saterday 8:37 post- You tout the VA? I know surgeons who work at the VA and have worked there my self-The VA has had horrible problems with cleaning endo scopes and right now is having problems with equipement sterilization and handling and processing for surgery. This has been going on for months. They have run only one case per OR since before the fisrt of the year. You really need to find out about the VA before you praise it.

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