Educate our students the right way

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I am concerned about the negative direction of educating our students. Teachers are expected to ensure all children receive a high school diploma. This idea is totally unreasonable!

Education should be based on students' intelligence and motivation. Some students should not be expected to remain in the typical school setting for 12 years. After the eighth grade, school counselors, teachers and parents can direct the path of the student who doesn't have the IQ or motivation to further his education with an academic high school diploma. At the ninth-grade level, this student should be allowed to continue his remaining school years in a training school (service jobs, etc.) or a trade school (automotive, manufacturing, labor, etc.).

One of the main purposes in receiving a high school diploma is for a student to be able to secure the best job possible for his or her intelligence and motivation. Students who further their education with a college degree should be granted free counseling on the job opportunities that will be available to them after they graduate.

Far too many students have completed college and can't secure jobs in the fields they studied. Counselors should have told students what the job market would need in the next four to five years. Industry and businesses should work closely with high schools.

Another concern of mine is the huge number of people on welfare. In high school, students openly tell their teachers they are pregnant, and seem to be proud of it. A solution to this problem would be for the fathers of the children and the fathers' parents, along with the girls and their parents, to take responsibility of supplying the needs of these children. No assistance should be granted from the government. The government is broke!

The children should be given up for adoption if those responsible can't provide for these children. In many cases it would be best for the children. These precious babies could be adopted by loving parents who can take responsibility for rearing these children.

Nita Zachow

(The writer is a retired educator.)

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msitua
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msitua 12/17/10 - 12:11 am
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I have a better idea. Let's

I have a better idea. Let's stop both our present wars and maybe the government won't be so broke and we can help the students more that need the help. This letter is very prejudiced against students with a lower IQ from no fault of their own.

Rhetor
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Rhetor 12/17/10 - 12:16 am
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Many vocational programs do

Many vocational programs do lead to a high school diploma. Please also be aware that in states that support eduction, which Georgia and SC most surely do not, many students are able to complete a high school education. Our high dropout rates in the CSRA are the result of many problems that can be solved if we set our mnds to them. The LTE writer is certainly right that children do need to be taught to be responsible for their actions.

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Cadence 12/17/10 - 01:13 am
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I agree that students who

I agree that students who have no desire to take algebra/trig/humanities/econ/pol.sci. etc, but who have real talent with mechanical things, should be allowed to pursue that career path. It pays well! It is better to be a licensed plumber right now than a liberal arts grad. It has to be done carefully, though, to avoid the old practice of telling minority students that they "aren't college material." Race should never enter into the equation.

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peace4784 12/17/10 - 05:22 am
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I have a better solution.
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I have a better solution. Let's educate the self serving racist and bigots who deprive certain segments of the population with opportunities to be the best they can be. Then, we would not have people like Bristol Palin and her illegtimate child held up as a role model for sexually active young ladies of all races to emulate.

southernguy08
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southernguy08 12/17/10 - 07:40 am
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PEACE, we have a "man of
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PEACE, we have a "man of color" who was elected president. Your charge of deprivation of certain segments of the population is, like most liberal charges, bologna. Bristol Palin, being a single mom, is no more a role model for young ladies than Jessica Alba or Jamie Lynn Spears. Funny how you don't mention them. And MSITUA, I'll see your stopping the wars and raise you matching those savings with cuts in "social spending." The "guvmint" should have plenty of money then. That is...if they will EVER pass a balanced budget amendment. Yeah, I'm laughing about that too.

bettyboop
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bettyboop 12/17/10 - 08:13 am
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peace there is no segment

peace there is no segment being denied anything...that segment you mention get all the breaks...all the assistance ..all the Government grants...and still they can't "be the best that they can be"...why???

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dstewartsr 12/17/10 - 08:23 am
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Except for the predictable

Except for the predictable racist rants and, for once the LTE writer and the majority of posters are in accord. We do need to put students who are totally averse to the pure academic track into something they can find interest, and a career.

I have three nephews who opted off the 'academia trail'; one is an electrician and opened his own business (with loans from members of his family - there's a concept you don't hear much about!) and is doing very well. The second working for him. The third is an apprenticed plumber, going for his journeyman's. All three live in very nice homes in Conyers. I have a fourth nephew who recently graduated from Darmouth; living at home, working -part time- as a barrista. His degree? Post-modern Literature.

If you want to see young people taking math seriously, go to Augusta Tech and watch classes in refrigeration repair or welding or pharmacy tech. These are students who suddenly understand the value of education, especially when it means something more than just getting by on a government check.

My neighbor returned to England because of his health; both his children were placed in a "trades track" in what would be our tenth grade; they graduated and went straight into trade school. He himself, works in the building trade and owns a home in the outskirts of London after only five years returned.

And like us working in the US, b*tches about the taxes for the masses on "the dole."

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I C U 2 12/17/10 - 09:16 am
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I have an even better Idea.

I have an even better Idea. How about we all mount our beautiful flying horses and paint everlasting rainbow peace treaties with our enemies and throw handfuls of magical smartening pixie dust over those less mentally endowed. Ah, nevermind. Let's just face it, we're doomed.

dani
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dani 12/17/10 - 10:12 am
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Two nephews. The oldest

Two nephews. The oldest graduated from UGA 2 years ago and is now a youth minister. The younger opted out of college after high school and plays an instrument in a small band. Both are nice young men. Raised by the same hardworking parents. Different strokes, you know. Whatever you choose to do, do it well.

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Chillen 12/17/10 - 10:16 am
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Some fantastic ideas Nita.

Some fantastic ideas Nita. Common sense thinking. But alas, you are talking about our govt making changes so common sense does not prevail.

The current education system is exactly what I expect from the world we live in today where everyone gets a trophy and bad life decisions are rewarded with a lifetime of govt handouts.

follower
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follower 12/17/10 - 10:37 am
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If a young person can't pass

If a young person can't pass today's pitiful requirements to obtain a high school diploma, they are just stupid. [go ahead, blast away for that statement, but read carefully the rest of the post before doing so]

They can pass with effort. Most of the drop outs we see are just ignorant. They have the ability to be "illegal pharmicist", "illegal gun runners", "illegal purveyors of paid pleasure", and many other illegal business practices. In each of those illegal businesses, they realize they must obtain a product/service at a cost and market it for a profit. The ability to do so doesn't point to stupidity.

What they lack is the self-esteem and value that should have been instilled at home. The problem then, is that it is accepted in their culture. [Black and white, as ignorance and lack of morals knows no racial barrier] Further, the lack of severe consequences emboldens them to continue a life without purpose, ultimately becoming a drain on society.

No matter the educational path, academic or vocational, if values and morals are not in place BEFORE they enter school, we'll continue to see what we are seeing.

follower
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follower 12/17/10 - 10:40 am
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By the way Nita, students

By the way Nita, students enrolled in college already have a counselor in place to assist them in their path, not to mention readily available information through a myriad of avenues to keep them abreast of future employment statistics.

If they choose to take "toenail clipping 101", it's their fault.

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robaroo 12/17/10 - 11:40 am
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I still think every kid needs

I still think every kid needs at least a high school education. There are fewer jobs for people doing manual labor, and the pay is poor.

It's true that God gave different gifts to different people. It is much harder for some to get through high school.

But it's hard enough to make a living wage with just a HS diploma. That has to be the minimum for anybody with any chance of graduating.

Taylor B
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Taylor B 12/17/10 - 05:20 pm
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Well, manual labor jobs can

Well, manual labor jobs can be lucrative, my friends. I work on European Imports and do pretty well.

Technical training isn't for everyone, that's true. Neither is college. The problem is, we are training all HS students to go to UGA. If you don't have the aptitude for college, learn a trade... Or work at $8.00 an hour.

orgpsych
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orgpsych 12/18/10 - 12:52 am
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Ms Zachow, The system you

Ms Zachow,

The system you have described has been used in Germany for decades. It seems to work for them but, then, they are a supposedly Socialist country that we should strive NOT to emulate (or so I've been told).

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downtoearthincsra 12/18/10 - 02:49 am
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Peace, you are so right, the

Peace, you are so right, the right wingers can criticize the more moderates who have the welfare and future of American citizens in mind when making decisions and remarks, yet when the daughter of a vice-presidential candidate gets knocked up, or the potential candidate for a 2012 presidential bid cheated on his wife while trying to impeach someone else for the same actions,(Newt Gingrich), or a so called respected Republican Senator can solicit gay sex in the bathroom of an airport, while all the time voting for legislation against the equal treatment of all human beings., need I go on? I can only pray to my Lord in Heaven that He will spare us, the true citizens of the United States, the humanitarians, and the people who care about others no matter of their financial status or background, from the domination of the party that will be the end of a Free America as we know it.

chascush
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chascush 12/18/10 - 01:09 pm
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org, The system you have

org, The system you have described has been used in Germany for decades’
Did Hitler start it?

ameliaf
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ameliaf 12/18/10 - 02:40 pm
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"At the ninth-grade level,

"At the ninth-grade level, this student should be allowed to continue his remaining school years in a training school (service jobs, etc.) or a trade school (automotive, manufacturing, labor, etc.)."

Absolutely, 100%, YES. Governor Deal supported this idea when he was running for office. Here is hoping he comes through for us. It will actually be good for Georgia as a business opportunity for companies who want to move where people are trained to do work that requires an understanding of basic electronics, plumbing, auto mechanics, welding, or carpentry.

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seenitB4 12/19/10 - 09:38 am
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Our education system is a

Our education system is a sham.....we need electronics-plumbing-welding-carpentry...just like some posters are saying... not everyone will be college material..
Give them a chance in trade schools & for those with many babies---you have em, you feed em.

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